Mollassas REALLY

PuffinDaWeed

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Heres a bit of info I was reading on the web

"Molasses, honey, and other sugars are said to increase soil microbials, enhance regrowth, and make the plant's use of nitrogen more effective. Molasses will raise the energy level of the plant and acts as a mild natural fungicide. Molasses is the 'secret ingredient' in many organic fertilizers."
 

EaStW00d

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There are many growers who swear by molasses. I myself have around 2 to 3 weeks left in the flowering phase and have begun to water my plants with rainwater and 1Tbsp of molasses per gallon. I'm hoping for good results.
 

jondamon

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Heres a bit of info I was reading on the web

"Molasses, honey, and other sugars are said to increase soil microbials, enhance regrowth, and make the plant's use of nitrogen more effective. Molasses will raise the energy level of the plant and acts as a mild natural fungicide. Molasses is the 'secret ingredient' in many organic fertilizers."
Molasses does feed the microherd contained in your plants rhizosphere, small amounts of trace elements are absorbed by the plant.
Too much molasses can negatively effect the plants ability to uptake nitrogen.


If you want the link i have a thread about carbs aka sugars and amino acids research?




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EaStW00d

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They say molasses helps to thicken up the buds and possibly increase trichome production. Maybe I'll be made a believer after I harvest.
 

jondamon

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MOLASSES CAN BE USED AT ANY POINT DURING YOUR GROW

it should NOT be used with H2o2 as H2o2 kills beneficial microbes which molasses helps to feed.



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Jack Harer

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To be effective, Mollasses should be used throughout the grow, sparingly. It is not a magic potion that will give you bigger or harder buds at the end. What it IS is a food for the micro-herd, which, when thriving, will give you healthier, more robust plants.
 

Pat Man

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To be effective, Mollasses should be used throughout the grow, sparingly. It is not a magic potion that will give you bigger or harder buds at the end. What it IS is a food for the micro-herd, which, when thriving, will give you healthier, more robust plants.
can you be specific with "sparingly"? is every water after the first few weeks of flowering up to the few weeks flush before harvest too much?
 

Jack Harer

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You don't need that much molasses. Molasses will help get the micro-colony established in fresh, sterile soil. A "booster shot" every 4 or 5 waterings should be sufficient to keep it that way if you feel you must use it. The relationship between the plant and the mycorrhizae is a symbiotic one, in that both entities benefit from it. The mycos reduce the organic matter to the inorganic ionic form for the plant, and the plant secretes the carbs the mycos need. The plants contribute enough to the maintenance of the micro-herd that most people over use the molasses. You can easily overdo it. All the extra carbs in the soil is going to accomplish at the end is a bacterial and mycorrhizae "bloom", theoretically making more food available to the plant. I'm not so sure that the plant will be able to benefit from that unless there is a proportional increase in root mass as well. I'm still looking at that. I want to compare root mass between plants fed carbs and plants left alone at the end of my next grow. (When I'm actually able to HAVE that next grow!!)
 

Sunbiz1

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Too much molasses will cause N lockout. I learned the hard way last Summer, figured I could OD an in-ground due to all the surrounding vegetation etc absorbing it...wrong!. It took me 2 weeks to correct it with a 10-10-10, lost 30% of my fan leaves in the process but it did recover. Like all soil additives, it will build-up over time. Therefore, I use molasses tea every other watering now throughout veg/flower right up to chop.

And it's dirt cheap!
 

Jack Harer

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You think that every other watering is necessary? I'm asking because I do not use it personally, my recycled soil has an abundant population already. I'll use carbs initially when I plant to give a booster, but none after that.

Sunbiz, you really ought to look into bio-char. The effect it has on the rhizosphere is unbelievable.
 

Sunbiz1

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You think that every other watering is necessary? I'm asking because I do not use it personally, my recycled soil has an abundant population already. I'll use carbs initially when I plant to give a booster, but none after that.

Sunbiz, you really ought to look into bio-char. The effect it has on the rhizosphere is unbelievable.
Mornin' Jack,

Missed this one yesterday. How I use molasses is completely dependent on medium. When I do in-grounds, I don't always have the luxury of amending existing soil the way I would like, so molasses is part of the regimen. My indoors are done similar to yours, only I use my own blended soil from the legal(lol)garden out back. I like the added flavor molasses gives the final product, so I tend to use it regardless.

Upon reading wiki bio-char info, I have not a clue how to use it. Perhaps you can fill me in?. The improved yield portion certainly caught my attention.

Soil amendment
Biochar can be used as a soil amendment to improve yield, but only for plants that require high potash and elevated pH,[31] improve water quality, reduce soil emissions of greenhouse gases, reduce nutrient leaching, reduce soil acidity, and reduce irrigation and fertilizer requirements.[32]
These positive qualities are dependent on the properties of the biochar,[33] and may depend on regional conditions including soil type, soil condition (depleted or healthy), temperature, and humidity.[34] Modest additions of biochar to soil reduce nitrous oxide N2O emissions by up to 80% and eliminate methane emissions, which are both more potent greenhouse gases than CO2.[35]
Pollutants such as metals and pesticides seep into soil and contaminate food supplies, reducing the amount of land suitable for agricultural production. Studies have reported positive effects from biochar on crop production in degraded and nutrient–poor soils.[36] Biochar can be designed with specific qualities to target distinct properties of soils.[37] Biochar reduces leaching of critical nutrients, creates a higher crop uptake of nutrients, and provides greater soil availability of nutrients.[38] At 10% levels biochar reduced contaminant levels in plants by up to 80%, while reducing total chlordane and DDX content in the plants by 68 and 79%, respectively.[39]
 

Pat Man

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thanks for the knowledge it is greatly appreciated as ive been over using molasses, every water during flowering after first few weeks til last few before harvest. i never saw any problems with it so i just kept using it but have simmered down with it. my buddy gave me some "SUPERthrive" stuff to use 1 drop in every gallon and said i would see some fattening of my buds. but im not sure if this is the same as the molasses as i should over use it or if using a drop in ever water during flowering is okay
 
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