Molasses

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plants dont eat carbs, sugar, mollasses, any one who uses these in their growing medium do not understand the way plants grow. Al b. fuct debunks this myth quite eloquentaly here at RIU...

“Molasses and Plant Carbohydrates”
Sugars relating to plant functions for maximum economic
production


Printed by permission of Texas Plant & Soil Lab, Inc., www.txplant-soillab.com

ENVIRONMENTAL FACTORS that affect when and how much sugar to use:

a. How much nitrate is in the soil, and plant sap (petiole test).
b. Soil moisture conditions.
c. Sunlight intensity.
d. Temperature.
e. Wind
f. Fruiting stage / load
g. Growth / vigor [shade lower leaves]

The right amount at the right time can improve fruiting and produce normal
plant growth with less attraction for disease and insects.

Needed for healthy plants - fruit production - plant development &
maturity.

Roots take nutrients from the soil and transport them up the stalk thru the
petiole (stem) to the leaves where the sunlight aids the production of
photosynthates (sugars are not the ONLY product of photosynthesis)
carbohydrates (C, H & O), principally glucose (C6H12O6) and then other sugars
and photosynthates are formed.

Plant Sugars and other photosynthates are first translocated (boron is
essential to the translocation) to a fruiting site.

If fruit is not available, the
sugars, along with excess nitrates, spur the rapid vegetative growth of the plant
at the expense of creating fruiting bodies (first sink) for the storage of the sugars.

Once the proper balance of environmental factors (heat units, light intensity, soil
moisture, nutrient balance, etc) are met, the fruiting buds form and then fruit
formation gets the first crack at the sugar supply.

Any excess sugars are then translocated to the number two sink, (growing
terminals,) to speed their growth. The left-over sugars, etc. then go to the
number 3 sink, (the roots,) to aid their growth. Here the new root hairs take
up nutrients to help continue the cycle of sugar and other photosynthate produc-
tion, fruiting, growth of terminals and roots.

ADDED SUGARS CAN AID THE PLANT IN SEVERAL WAYS:
-
MOLASSES is probably the best outside source of many sugars, such as table
sugar, corn syrup and several more complex sugars such as polysaccharides
found in humus products.
- Sugar can be added to the soil in irrigation water, drip & pivot being the most
effective.

* In the soil it can:

- Feed microbes to stimulate the conversion of nitrates to the more
efficient NH2 form of N to synthesize protein more directly by the plants.

- The roots can directly absorb some of the sugars into the sap stream to
supplement the leaf supply to fruit where it is most needed, and ALSO directly
feed the roots for continued productive growth.

- This ADDED sugar can also help initiate fruiting buds in a steady-slow
fashion while maintaining normal growth.

-EXCESSIVE amounts of ADDED SUGARS applied foliarly can shock the
plant resulting in shortened growth internodes, increased leaf maturity & initiation
of excess fruiting sites. This can be a short term effect lasting only a few days.

Pollination, soil moisture, nutrient balance and sufficiency as well as
adequate light for photosynthate production decide how much of the
induced fruit can mature.

http://www.pnwgpg.com/homepage_000014.htm
 

zorkan

Active Member
“Molasses and Plant Carbohydrates”
Sugars relating to plant functions for maximum economic
production


Printed by permission of Texas Plant & Soil Lab, Inc., www.txplant-soillab.com

ENVIRONMENTAL FACTORS that affect when and how much sugar to use:

a. How much nitrate is in the soil, and plant sap (petiole test).
b. Soil moisture conditions.
c. Sunlight intensity.
d. Temperature.
e. Wind
f. Fruiting stage / load
g. Growth / vigor [shade lower leaves]

The right amount at the right time can improve fruiting and produce normal
plant growth with less attraction for disease and insects.

Needed for healthy plants - fruit production - plant development &
maturity.

Roots take nutrients from the soil and transport them up the stalk thru the
petiole (stem) to the leaves where the sunlight aids the production of
photosynthates (sugars are not the ONLY product of photosynthesis)
carbohydrates (C, H & O), principally glucose (C6H12O6) and then other sugars
and photosynthates are formed.

Plant Sugars and other photosynthates are first translocated (boron is
essential to the translocation) to a fruiting site.

If fruit is not available, the
sugars, along with excess nitrates, spur the rapid vegetative growth of the plant
at the expense of creating fruiting bodies (first sink) for the storage of the sugars.

Once the proper balance of environmental factors (heat units, light intensity, soil
moisture, nutrient balance, etc) are met, the fruiting buds form and then fruit
formation gets the first crack at the sugar supply.

Any excess sugars are then translocated to the number two sink, (growing
terminals,) to speed their growth. The left-over sugars, etc. then go to the
number 3 sink, (the roots,) to aid their growth. Here the new root hairs take
up nutrients to help continue the cycle of sugar and other photosynthate produc-
tion, fruiting, growth of terminals and roots.

ADDED SUGARS CAN AID THE PLANT IN SEVERAL WAYS:
-
MOLASSES is probably the best outside source of many sugars, such as table
sugar, corn syrup and several more complex sugars such as polysaccharides
found in humus products.
- Sugar can be added to the soil in irrigation water, drip & pivot being the most
effective.

* In the soil it can:

- Feed microbes to stimulate the conversion of nitrates to the more
efficient NH2 form of N to synthesize protein more directly by the plants.

- The roots can directly absorb some of the sugars into the sap stream to
supplement the leaf supply to fruit where it is most needed, and ALSO directly
feed the roots for continued productive growth.

- This ADDED sugar can also help initiate fruiting buds in a steady-slow
fashion while maintaining normal growth.

-EXCESSIVE amounts of ADDED SUGARS applied foliarly can shock the
plant resulting in shortened growth internodes, increased leaf maturity & initiation
of excess fruiting sites. This can be a short term effect lasting only a few days.

Pollination, soil moisture, nutrient balance and sufficiency as well as
adequate light for photosynthate production decide how much of the
induced fruit can mature.

http://www.pnwgpg.com/homepage_000014.htm
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molassas aint gona work
http://www.thisdoesntmeananything.com


are we all suppost to believe it now that you linked a webpage to it?
 

newb19547

Well-Known Member
tried one plant with and one without same grow next to each other same everything else.....?

I was actually gonna edit my post and say if you've had troubles with it either you weren't using enough or if it damaged them then you use too much. Just because you don't notice anything doesn't mean it doesn't work. And also, were the two plants you tested on clones of the same mother? That's the only way it would be a legitimate test.
 

The Warlord

Well-Known Member
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molassas aint gona work
http://www.thisdoesntmeananything.com


are we all suppost to believe it now that you linked a webpage to it?

not only is all that true but molasses has a n-p-k value of 1-0-5 on average so it's fertilizer as well as being good for benificial micro organisms.

You don't know what you are talking about. Do some research. the value of molasses as a fertilizer and as a soil addative is a documented scientific fact.
 

Brick Top

New Member
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molassas aint gona work
http://www.thisdoesntmeananything.com


are we all suppost to believe it now that you linked a webpage to it?


Let’s compare sources of information. Mine was the Texas Plant & Soil Lab, Inc.
 
When I tried to follow your link the page was not found, the information you posted was not found. What scientific institute dedicated to plants and plant growth provided the information you chose to believe?

Keep in mind that my link works and the information I posted can be found while yours evidently cannot do the same.
 
I am a part owner in a family owned pot-in-pot nursery, trees and bushes, not plants or kids.

It now covers between roughly 15 and 17 acres of land.

Four members of my family have degrees in botany and they all say molasses helps plant growth.

Add to that the fact that I have 37 years of experience in growing pot.
 
What amount of personal experience and ready access to some number of degreed botanists can you counter with ... especially since your link let you down?
 

newb19547

Well-Known Member
Let’s compare sources of information. Mine was the Texas Plant & Soil Lab, Inc.
 
When I tried to follow your link the page was not found, the information you posted was not found. What scientific institute dedicated to plants and plant growth provided the information you chose to believe?

Keep in mind that my link works and the information I posted can be found while yours evidently cannot do the same.
 
I am a part owner in a family owned pot-in-pot nursery, trees and bushes, not plants or kids.

It now covers between roughly 15 and 17 acres of land.

Four members of my family have degrees in botany and they all say molasses helps plant growth.

Add to that the fact that I have 37 years of experience in growing pot.
 
What amount of personal experience and ready access to some number of degreed botanists can you counter with ... especially since your link let you down?

I think his link was supposed to be a joke......read it. "this doesn't mean anything.com". Unless that is a real site...........
 

Brick Top

New Member
I think his link was supposed to be a joke......read it. "this doesn't mean anything.com". Unless that is a real site...........

I didn’t bother to read the useless, evidently fake, link, I just clicked on it to see what might be found.
 
When it comes to someone believing proven scientific facts or not, well frankly Scarlet, I don’t give a damn if they do or do not.
 
If they would rather believe opinions and inaccurate conclusions based on connecting the wrong dots resulting in incorrect cause and effect beliefs and total inaccuracies and half-truths and misinformation and hearsay claims and myths and urban legends and old hippie folklore and by doing so lose out that is their decision to make.
 
Myself I believe proven scientific facts.
 

slowroll

Member
Has anyone had problems with foam? i have been adding the same nutes for 5 weeks now switched to 12/12 sunday and added molassas to my bubbleponics system (boiled it and let it cool down) by sunday night my tubs were filled with foam!!?? any suggestions?
 
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