MMPR Grow op: Small Scale

oddish

oddish

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leaffan said:
"stalling on the approval side".
Maybe I'm way off base.
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Not off base at all. That's exactly the card the wannabes are playing now.
HC has enough issues with these existing LPs and their QA - the last thing they want is for them to be the only source of product for new LPs and the last thing LPs want is to have to buy their starter plants from Twerp.
 
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Northern Nan

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I am attempting to be accepted as a QA with HC . I am A HACCP Certified Auditor and have work for the federal Gov for 12 years inspecting / auditing and LP I am applying with is on the last attempt. Does anyone have a template of a approved QA I would hate to submit a inadequate response to the requirements
 
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oddish

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Northern Nan said:
I am attempting to be accepted as a QA with HC . I am A HACCP Certified Auditor and have work for the federal Gov for 12 years inspecting / auditing and LP I am applying with is on the last attempt. Does anyone have a template of a approved QA I would hate to submit a inadequate response to the requirements
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Good luck. They reject some people, then accept them later. Sometimes they accept the same SOPs from someone when they rejected them from the guy before. You need an SOP for every single process and they need to be signed and correct and you should include your resume and any qualifications you have to validate yourself with plants, the government and lab QA.
 
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Devil Lettuce

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Northern Nan said:
I am attempting to be accepted as a QA with HC . I am A HACCP Certified Auditor and have work for the federal Gov for 12 years inspecting / auditing and LP I am applying with is on the last attempt. Does anyone have a template of a approved QA I would hate to submit a inadequate response to the requirements
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Hey Northern Nan, good luck. I have yet to see any specifics on what has been submitted for successful QA's and there is no 'template' that I know of.....I don't think you will find that sort of info here, but I could be wrong about that. All I have seen from the HC end is repeated statements that there are no specific requirements for the position and that it is up to the applicant to prove that the QA professional in question is competent and capable of carrying out all duties covered in Division 4 of the MMPR.

What I do know from speaking to multiple sources (I'm a QA professional myself), is that HC is playing games and using the QA person as a pawn to stall and weed out applicants. In many cases, there is a lot of evidence pointing to HC rejecting QA's because they have an issue with the application/company in question and not their QA. I'm aware of QA's that were denied on some applications, only to be immediately accepted on others.

Personally, I would recommend that you to have a very close look at the application as a whole and who the company is. At this stage of the game, I think an application has to be absolutely perfect to have a realistic chance, and that means zero holes on any front. If they are on the smaller end, and don't have some connections or other factors working in their favour, then the odds are unfortunately stacked against them at this stage. If they've already had multiple QA's rejected, it makes me think that there could be other issues with the application as well. With your experience and credentials there shouldn't be any problem, so if you aren't accepted the problem definitely lies somewhere else for the prospective LP, IMO.

Just make sure you are doing your due diligence on the company trying to hire you as I have found many to be misleading about the status of their application, details of their business, and their ultimate chances of approval (and job for you).
 
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Mmpr613

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We made a deal with an already approved LP to store our genetics for a reasonable fee. As long as it was done prior to April 1st and it came from an Mmar source.

If and when we get a license they transfer the seeds back to our company with all the appropriate paper work.

Are there any wannabes that have any GOOD or bad news to share in regards to the status of your app?

Has anyone been recently issued a BUILDOUT or LOI? If so how long we're you stuck in the security clearance process?

Has anyone been denied based on security clearance alone?

What's happening with the guys who said they were waiting for their final inspection months ago?

Please don't be so quiet, share info so we aren't all sitting here wondering what the hell is going on!

[email protected]
 
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oddish

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Not many people will share their private information.. it's just not something they feel comfortable being public about.
To the best of everyone's knowledge (that I've spoken with) no LOIs have been given out in the past 6-7 weeks.
I don't think anyone has been denied based on security clearance, but if key players fail at the CSIS level they can send your application back to step 1, which is basically never-get-approved land as far as I'm concerned.

From what I've heard, the CSIS portion is 6-8 weeks.
 
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Kron3007

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I love how much "inside" information floats around about the whole MMPR system. You guys really think HC only expected 75 applications? Are they idiots? I think they knew that they would receive hundreds of applications when they started this; they are not that naive.

Someone suggested they may stop accepting applications in a couple weeks? How long ago was that again? Time and time again I have heard this type of tripe, and 99% of the time it is just speculation from people who want to appear in the know. Unless you hear it from the horses mouth, I suggest you take it with a giant heap of salt.

As for QAP, I'm sure this is their main screening method, but that is because it is arguably the most important aspect of the application. The system is new and we have already seen at least 2 QA failures. In both cases the QAP dropped the ball, so of course they need to re-evaluate their requirements.
 
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oddish

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Kron3007 said:
Unless you hear it from the horses mouth, I suggest you take it with a giant heap of salt.
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Agreed. The closest I've been able to get to the horse's mouth has suggested nothing about closing down the application process. I've heard of numerous issues existing with the current LPs and their QA (more than just the 2 recalls) and

Kron3007 said:
As for QAP, I'm sure this is their main screening method, but that is because it is arguably the most important aspect of the application. The system is new and we have already seen at least 2 QA failures. In both cases the QAP dropped the ball, so of course they need to re-evaluate their requirements.
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Agreed with this as well. That said, I firmly believe they are using QA as a real issue (because it is right now with much of the MMAR product that was imported) and it's also a crutch for the delays, rejections, etc.
 
oddish

oddish

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Yes, they are piling up there. Into the 800s.
Getting ridiculous. Good luck to anyone over 600. I know someone in the first 100 still waiting.
 
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rnr

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I love how much "inside" information floats around about the whole MMPR system. You guys really think HC only expected 75 applications? Are they idiots? I think they knew that they would receive hundreds of applications when they started this; they are not that naive.


yup I do, and I know someone on the inside and he has those numbers, and heard it from a top person. did you know Gordon cambell is a large guy in the mmpr?
the gov didn't expect 75 aps, they didn't really thing there would be more than 75 still standing when they are done, and we haven't even got close yet. just cause 1000 apps in now don't mean they will be excepted
 
oddish

oddish

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gb123 said:
Theres ZERO inside info lol Even the guys on the inside don't know what s going on :)
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This I can vouch for. Numerous people at HC are handing out different information to different people.
I try to stick to only information I know came from the approvals department or someone high enough up that they understand the general direction of the department.

At this point in time everything is basically in gridlock though - it doesn't take rocket appliances to see that.
 
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Kron3007

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rnr said:
I love how much "inside" information floats around about the whole MMPR system. You guys really think HC only expected 75 applications? Are they idiots? I think they knew that they would receive hundreds of applications when they started this; they are not that naive.


yup I do, and I know someone on the inside and he has those numbers, and heard it from a top person. did you know Gordon cambell is a large guy in the mmpr?
the gov didn't expect 75 aps, they didn't really thing there would be more than 75 still standing when they are done, and we haven't even got close yet. just cause 1000 apps in now don't mean they will be excepted
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You could be right, but to me you are a dude on the internet that heard it from a guy that heard it from a guy (no offense). I find it impossible to believe HC would not have seen this coming. That's not to say they were equipped to deal with it.
 
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gb123

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oddish said:
This I can vouch for. Numerous people at HC are handing out different information to different people.
I try to stick to only information I know came from the approvals department or someone high enough up that they understand the general direction of the department.

At this point in time everything is basically in gridlock though - it doesn't take rocket appliances to see that.
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lmao..... and we all know as much as you. now ....Thanks Mr!
 
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