Miracle grow yet 17 days old?? ---with pic

Hey now its 17 days old the bigest one out of the 3(more soon) you think its ready for a squirt spray thing of water with a very low dose of all purpose merical grow powder?

total nitrogen-24%
phosphate- 8%
soluble potash-16 %
boron-0.02%
copper-0.07%
iron. 0.15%
manganese-0.05%
zink-0.06%

no. don't get over excited. no supplementary nutes. wait till 2 months or when you start flowering. No need to spray your plant, just water it lightly and often (once every 1-2 days).

thats really small for 17 days

it shouldve been starting to bush out already,get more lights on it champ and u will be fine

Are you growing it outdoors? If so it might need to be moved to a sunnier spot and if indoors it might need a bit more light. Is the 17 day count since it sprouted or since you planted seed? It does look quite small but really nice and healthy too and you can see it coming along nicely so I wouldn't risk killing it with kindness by using that fertilizer just yet.

Ok thanks for the advice and its been 17 days since i planted the seed about 14 days since it sprouted. Its a outdoor plant that is taken in every night because right now it gets down to about high 30's F. Ill try and find a sunnier spot. The seed used for this plant was just a bag seed so that may be one reason why its growing slow. Just planted some Northern lights 2 days ago should sprout tonight or tomorrow

A little small,but still lookin good. For 17 days from dry seed it is fine. Keep up the good work. Wait a minute for nutes

That plant looks to be perfectly healthy. I don't understand why these chumps feel they have to chime in with "it's too small". Do not give any nutes until you see yellowing in the lower leaves. As soon as the tips start to go, hit it with 25% label strength.

Thanks for the advice and 3 northern light just sprouted today should have 14 more coming

UserFriendly said:

That plant looks to be perfectly healthy. I don't understand why these chumps feel they have to chime in with "it's too small".

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UserFriendly, I think that some of the people who raised the issue of the plant's size only did so to in order to make the suggestion it might benefit from a bit more light and nobody who did made any negative comment regarding the plant's health.. I agree that it is not particularly helpful to just say "it's too small" as though this was a criticism but to characterise all who mentioned the plant's size as "chumps" seems rather unfair when some did so out of a genuine desire to be helpful to the plant and its grower.

UserFriendly said:

That plant looks to be perfectly healthy. I don't understand why these chumps feel they have to chime in with "it's too small". Do not give any nutes until you see yellowing in the lower leaves. As soon as the tips start to go, hit it with 25% label strength.

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I agree. Small/slow growth over fast/stretched is better. Its healthy, looks good and seems happy. (also kinda early to worry about too much.) Let her grow! The outside aspect is probably a great thing. Gives fresh air, real sun light, breeze strengthens 'em up, etc.

Is it gonna be an outside grow eventually?
Keep us posted.

Celestial said:

UserFriendly, I think that some of the people who raised the issue of the plant's size only did so to in order to make the suggestion it might benefit from a bit more light and nobody who did made any negative comment regarding the plant's health.. I agree that it is not particularly helpful to just say "it's too small" as though this was a criticism but to characterise all who mentioned the plant's size as "chumps" seems rather unfair when some did so out of a genuine desire to be helpful to the plant and its grower.

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But won't a plant looking for light stretch? Doesn't look stretched to me. (not overly squat either)
Its also in a large pot. Roots could be taking the growth spurt now.

Yes haha i live in the middle of a city and just sprouted a bunch of northern lights so im going to have to move it to nice sunny spot outside the city pretty soon.

BigBudBalls said:

I agree. Small/slow growth over fast/stretched is better. Its healthy, looks good and seems happy.

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You mention small/slow and fast/stretched as though a grower has only these two choices. Fast does not automatically equal stretched. Even if these really were the only options, it would really depend on the circumstances and expectations of the grower to choose which was preferable for them and to say one is "better" has no validity, particularly when neither are ideal.

With absolutely no disrespect inteded towards the plant or its owner, the truth of the matter is that plant is smaller than average for its age. Moreover, he/she mentions that this one is the largest of three. To make the comment "that plant is small for its age", is only to make a perfectly valid observation. This could, as the grower says, be down to genetics. On the other hand it could also be caused by insufficient light. This was my thought because it does look SLIGHTLY stretched to me - no cause for alarm, not saying it is unhealthy - and now by the further info provided by grower that it is put outside during the day and brought in at night. Depending on the location, there may be relatively few daylight hours currently and if that is the case, the growth would almost certainly be sped by supplementing it with some indoor lighting. However, as i have said all along and was the first to say, it looks healthy and seems to be growing fine, albeit slowly and would likely continue to do so if left to grow. On the other hand, the grower may see an increase in the speed of the growth if it was given more light. Ultimately that is his/her decision and sagincj, I wish you all the best with these plants and the NL grow.

In any case, I do not see how name-calling is in any way helpful or improves RIU. Clearly you do not share that opinion.

im using the same all purpose MG nutes! lol

but ya, the plant is pretty small for 19 days. but like dude above said, depending on where U live, U might not get a full 18 hrs of sunlight. that would cause slow growth.
and also some sativa's start off a lot slower than indica's. Im assuming sativa bcuz of the germination time (3 days) and the fact I had a plant that looked just like that (you lucky dog! what strain is that BTW??) my plant I had that looked like that was a stretcher too!

its all about the light intensity tho. the brighter the light, the less stretching.

that plant looks to be about a week old, and if that indeed were the case, that plant would be perfect. just the right amount of stretching. but for 19 days its not growing too fast at all, especially if its in miracle grow.

speaking of which, dont feed it any nuts till the bottom leaves start yellowing (like UF said above) feed the plant straight water once every 3-4 days for about 3 weeks, then do as UF said and give her a lower strength feeding.

Ive tried spraying the MG nutes on the plants only to find a powdery reside left behind when it dried. I wouldnt recommend it, especially since its not necessary. if U wanna spray, go get some super thrive and spray that on the plants every once in a while. that'll keep em nice and healthy

my plant looks just like this i had for about 14 days but i dont have the 2 leaves under the main leaf section

Anyone saying this plant is small for it's age may be right but I would have to say it is impossible to tell. All phenotypes are different so who is anyone to make a judgement call on the genetics of these three particular seeds... It doesn't matter if you say u have grown the same stuff and yours was bigger at 17 days, all seeds are different, and maybe he already repotted them so that will cost you 2 days right their. I just want to try and clear up this senseless arguement about how a 17 day old plant should look cuz no one is really that good here, sorry!

CustomHydro said:

Anyone saying this plant is small for it's age may be right but I would have to say it is impossible to tell. All phenotypes are different so who is anyone to make a judgement call on the genetics of these three particular seeds... It doesn't matter if you say u have grown the same stuff and yours was bigger at 17 days, all seeds are different, and maybe he already repotted them so that will cost you 2 days right their. I just want to try and clear up this senseless arguement about how a 17 day old plant should look cuz no one is really that good here, sorry!

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actually, most of the members here ARE that good..

that plant was definitely behind for its age.

whether he transplanted, or had a lack of light, or had a lack of duration of light, or overwatered, or whatever...it doesnt matter. the fact is that the plant definitely is smaller than it should be.

The 'Phenotype' of a plant changes depending on the environment the plant is grown in. thats just how they 'respond' in nature. considering this plant was grown outside, in a pot, theres really no argument that the plant should definitely be larger at 17-19 days.

It looks as if its in a area that gets good light exposure, so the phenotype of the plant will adapt to that.

and if U grow enough plants U will know how a plant is 'supposed' to look at 17 days in Veg. U will be able to recognize problems, and learn how to correct them. its a lil something called experience.

why am I arguing with someone who contradicted them selves 5 times in one post...?

CustomHydro said:

A little small,but still lookin good. For 17 days from dry seed it is fine. Keep up the good work. Wait a minute for nutes

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you even said yourself the plants are small....wtf?

I think Big Bud Balls got it right, the roots are growing to the pot.
I planted a seedling in a 15 gal. pot , and it took so long I thought something was wrong and decided to pull it only to find a very large and robust root system. Live and learn.
Your plant looks perfectly ok. Just wait awhile, she'll go.