Mini Cool Cab

oh hey if you ever have hight/stretching issues get some Humboldt County's Own Bushmaster, my friend bought a mini cool cab and he really ended up needing it, especially when starting from seedlings. Some people end up burning their plants so you gota be careful with the stuff.

northerntights said:

oh hey if you ever have hight/stretching issues get some Humboldt County's Own Bushmaster, my friend bought a mini cool cab and he really ended up needing it, especially when starting from seedlings. Some people end up burning their plants so you gota be careful with the stuff.

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You have to get one of these set ups. I have the Cool Cab, the full size cabinet. It comes with everything you need other than your seeds. It is in the garage covered with magnets and stickers now, can't even notice it when the door is open other than the fan going. All you really have to do is plug it in, fill it with water and your plants. Test your levels everyday and so far I have great results.
See my grow journal.
Chiceh

VictorVIcious said:

Be careful about venting into the attic depending on where you live. If the temperature goes down you can get condensation onthe bottom of the roof. It will be like rain onto your ceiling when it warms up. Trust me one this one. I have to replace the ceiling tile in my family room because of this.

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Shit ya, that is GOOD advise. Cheers Vicky

Shiitake said:

I'd love to hear how your harvests go, as I am seriously considering buying one of these units myself! =) Was your heat problem because of the unit itself running too hot, or were the ambient temps in the room where you installed the unit less than ideal?

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Actually the first grow was in the winter months and I had the cab in a spare bedroom with the door closed during the day. I was able to lower the ambient temp in the house to 65F while I was at work and left the door to the room open and that took care of it. This 2nd grow will be over the summer so I had to vent the output fan into the attic and input fan is drawing inside air.

It's true you could build one of these cabinets but this is a great way to learn if u can afford it. I have lot's of ideas on how to improve this cabinet and eventually I will build my own as a separate veg area. I added up the cost of everything it included and I probably paid an extra $500 for them to build it for me.

Hey guys,

Like most others, I'm interested in the MCC myself. Just curious how the 'smell factor' is with this unit.

Thanks in advance,

phreaq said:

Hey guys,

Like most others, I'm interested in the MCC myself. Just curious how the 'smell factor' is with this unit.

Thanks in advance,

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I purchased the larger "Cool Cab" instead of the mini. We haveit in our garage with stickers and magnet all over it. Just looks like a storage unit. The cloning chamber on top has come in handy, check out my grow journal.
If you have the space, I would recommend the larger cool cab.
Make sure all the parts and pieces are there when you get the order too. We had 2 parts missing, they shipped them out a few days later, but couldn't use it right away. co booster if you can. I didn't but wish I had now. I am going to get it for next round as they do cost a bit.
Good luck.

Chiceh

Thanks for the reply Chiceh!

... but how's the smell?

lol, I thought it said small....lol.

The smell is okay, just make sure you connect that tube on the back with the ozonator tightly. I had to duct tape around it too. I also duct tapped the outside seams where the doors open to prevent air leakage. It will smell if not vented out. We have ours in the garage and I keep the large door open an inch or so from the bottom to let in air. When I am home, I smoke in the garage so the back door is open too, good air flow. Without doing that you smell it and the nutes.
It is louder than I thought too. The fans are loud.

Chiceh

Hi Natanis, I got the larger Caddy but a couple of years ago. Just used it for the first time, but not having much luck. I think I have nute burns and although I'm past wk 4, my plants are all still 3". It's been hot, so I too have opened the door about 4" and set an additional room fan up to blow additional air into the Caddy. Do you have trouble keeping your pH stabilized? I have to add 4 T white vinegar a couple of times a day to keep it from hanging in the 7+ range. I keep trying to keep it in the good 6.0 to 6.5 range, but to no avail. Can't figure out what's changing my pH so much and so often???? Beginning to wonder if this is all worth it and to top it off, I mentioned MJ to Sunlight Sheds and now they can't even talk to me because of Fed and NY laws. Hoping someyone can help me. Thanks!!

tinkerbbell99 said:

Hi Natanis, I got the larger Caddy but a couple of years ago. Just used it for the first time, but not having much luck. I think I have nute burns and although I'm past wk 4, my plants are all still 3". It's been hot, so I too have opened the door about 4" and set an additional room fan up to blow additional air into the Caddy. Do you have trouble keeping your pH stabilized? I have to add 4 T white vinegar a couple of times a day to keep it from hanging in the 7+ range. I keep trying to keep it in the good 6.0 to 6.5 range, but to no avail. Can't figure out what's changing my pH so much and so often???? Beginning to wonder if this is all worth it and to top it off, I mentioned marijuana to Sunlight Sheds and now they can't even talk to me because of Fed and NY laws. Hoping someyone can help me. Thanks!!

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Hey Tinkerbell,
I struggle with my ph levels too. I have the "Cool Cab". The fans are good though, they keep it nice in there. Not too hot. I would look into that as the fans are supposed to cool it down in there.
Have you tried using the ph down instead of vinegar?

So from reading this, its now evident the CC is the popular grow closet. I seem to be the only one that has bought the supercloset, which is similar, but different. Its similar in the fact that all the controls and cords are in the back. These websites do not advertise this so I was wondering if anyone could provide some pics of the back of the CC. Here are some pics of my Supercloset.

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Hey Tinkerbell,
I struggle with my ph levels too. I have the "Cool Cab". The fans are good though, they keep it nice in there. Not too hot. I would look into that as the fans are supposed to cool it down in there.
Have you tried using the ph down instead of vinegar?

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Thanks Chiceh for answering. Glad to hear I'm not the only one with vascilating pH. I haven't tried the ph down. I've gone through 1.5 gals of white vinegar already, so figured it would cost me an arm and a leg to use the ph down although, I must confess, I didn't check the price. The nutes I have are a couple of years old (chris at SS said shelf life is 5 yrs) and I need to get new bloom, grow, plus (or vits), bushmaster, spray-n-grow and something else I can't think of, so figured if the vinegar worked, I could save a bit there. SS said even with vinegar my pH shouldn't change that much, but cut me off on contacting them before I got any explanation, advice, etc.

My plants are 5 wks old and still only 3", but think maybe it was just too hot inside. Have since opened the doors. The leaves are burnt at tips and edges and some leaves are just gone now which sounds like nute burn I would guess, but my TDS shows below 300 and my water is 88, so it seems it should be too low to burn. My two bigger plants are all yellowish at the bottom but green on top, so I would think that is lack of nitrogen. So......if my TDS is low, and the plants are yellow wouldn't that be low nutes/nitrogen. Since plants are also burned guess that's too hot rather than nute burns?

I took a pic of my 4 poor sickly little girls (I'm hoping) so you can see what you think with what's left of them, boo hoo. They're whats left of my 9 WW seeds too, so I'm especially worried.

My Caddy has 2 exhaust fans. How many does yours have? If I close my doors the temps are from 72ish to 94ish which may be why they fried, although SS said if I could put my hand under the light without getting too hot, they should be okay. Must be my ventilation?

Maybe growing isn't as easy as I thought it SHOULD be and my gardens outside are awesome. Maybe I only have one outdoor green thumb???

Help and thanks for taking the time to read all this!!

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Thanks Chiceh for answering. Glad to hear I'm not the only one with vascilating pH. I haven't tried the ph down. I've gone through 1.5 gals of white vinegar already, so figured it would cost me an arm and a leg to use the ph down although, I must confess, I didn't check the price. The nutes I have are a couple of years old (chris at SS said shelf life is 5 yrs) and I need to get new bloom, grow, plus (or vits), bushmaster, spray-n-grow and something else I can't think of, so figured if the vinegar worked, I could save a bit there. SS said even with vinegar my pH shouldn't change that much, but cut me off on contacting them before I got any explanation, advice, etc.

My plants are 5 wks old and still only 3", but think maybe it was just too hot inside. Have since opened the doors. The leaves are burnt at tips and edges and some leaves are just gone now which sounds like nute burn I would guess, but my TDS shows below 300 and my water is 88, so it seems it should be too low to burn. My two bigger plants are all yellowish at the bottom but green on top, so I would think that is lack of nitrogen. So......if my TDS is low, and the plants are yellow wouldn't that be low nutes/nitrogen. Since plants are also burned guess that's too hot rather than nute burns?

I took a pic of my 4 poor sickly little girls (I'm hoping) so you can see what you think with what's left of them, boo hoo. They're whats left of my 9 WW seeds too, so I'm especially worried.

My Caddy has 2 exhaust fans. How many does yours have? If I close my doors the temps are from 72ish to 94ish which may be why they fried, although SS said if I could put my hand under the light without getting too hot, they should be okay. Must be my ventilation?

Maybe growing isn't as easy as I thought it SHOULD be and my gardens outside are awesome. Maybe I only have one outdoor green thumb???

Help and thanks for taking the time to read all this!!

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Oops, my pics didn't show up. I'll try again.

Hey Tinkerbell,
Your plants are looking a little weak. I left mine in the seed tray with the dome cover under fluorescent light from seed to about 6 inches tall and well rooted. I think that helped mine not get burnt or stressed out. They look too small for in there right now. That is just my opinion though. The guys at sunlight sheds are pretty cool. As long as you don't mention what you are growing in there. Check that the 2 blower fans near the bottom are plugged into your power, I missed this and had trouble with heating and limp looking plants in the beginning. I also duct tapped around all the pipes where they connect. I had to extend the ozonator tube out and made sure it was totally sealed.
I agree about hard this is. Gardening outdoors is easier. I as well have a green thumb when it comes to my gardens. We will just have to wait and see how the cool cab does, I am going to harvest my PPP in about 3 weeks.
Good luck,

Chiceh
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Thanks so much for your help. I have the Caddy from 2 yrs ago, just before SS first went into business. I only have 2 outlet fans and they don't seem to be able to keep the heat down, as used to reach 95 and the heat sensor turned the light off to cool and on again all the time. Now have my doors open, keeping temp between 75-85. Think I will move the Caddy out further from the wall next time I change the tank so I get more air flow from behind. If I even close the doors a little, I immediately get 90 degrees again.

Interesting you kept your newbies in the germination tank so long. The paper work I got from SS said to put the seeds in the grow chamber as soon as you got any root at all. Know they said to keep nutes down to 1/4 until a couple of inches. This is all new, so I just followed that.

I made the mistake of mentioning what I was growing and now SS can't talk to me. NY laws and Cali laws are different. Could you tell me about your fan setup in the mini Cab. I just have two exhaust fans , one mounted on the ceiling, the other on the side butted up against the ceiling. I checked out the pic of the Cool Cab at SS and it's way different. Your exhaust hoses seem to come right out of your light??? Maybe I should get another fan, but my next $ spent will have to be on nutes cuz I'm low on SS's own old original nutes sent with the Caddy and it's only 1 phase, and I want 3 phase grow/flower/etc. In 2 yrs they've really improved and you got all the toys too. Thanks again and any other thoughts would be appreciated. Don't want to lose these seeds. With TDS now 328 (-88 for my tap = 240) they seem to be doing better. Had it really low until a few days ago cuz thought that's what was burning them. Someone else said it looked like chlorine burn so I'm checking with my water co Mon to see what our Chlorination rate is. I'm sure that 90-95 degree temps with door closed had an affect also. Thanks again,

tinkerbbell99 said:

Thanks so much for your help. I have the Caddy from 2 yrs ago, just before SS first went into business. I only have 2 outlet fans and they don't seem to be able to keep the heat down, as used to reach 95 and the heat sensor turned the light off to cool and on again all the time. Now have my doors open, keeping temp between 75-85. Think I will move the Caddy out further from the wall next time I change the tank so I get more air flow from behind. If I even close the doors a little, I immediately get 90 degrees again.

Interesting you kept your newbies in the germination tank so long. The paper work I got from SS said to put the seeds in the grow chamber as soon as you got any root at all. Know they said to keep nutes down to 1/4 until a couple of inches. This is all new, so I just followed that.

I made the mistake of mentioning what I was growing and now SS can't talk to me. NY laws and Cali laws are different. Could you tell me about your fan setup in the mini Cab. I just have two exhaust fans , one mounted on the ceiling, the other on the side butted up against the ceiling. I checked out the pic of the Cool Cab at SS and it's way different. Your exhaust hoses seem to come right out of your light??? Maybe I should get another fan, but my next $ spent will have to be on nutes cuz I'm low on SS's own old original nutes sent with the Caddy and it's only 1 phase, and I want 3 phase grow/flower/etc. In 2 yrs they've really improved and you got all the toys too. Thanks again and any other thoughts would be appreciated. Don't want to lose these seeds. With TDS now 328 (-88 for my tap = 240) they seem to be doing better. Had it really low until a few days ago cuz thought that's what was burning them. Someone else said it looked like chlorine burn so I'm checking with my water co Mon to see what our Chlorination rate is. I'm sure that 90-95 degree temps with door closed had an affect also. Thanks again,

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I have the "Cool Cab", not the mini. It has an exhaust fan, 2 lower fans that blow air in. The light is hooked up to a fan too, through the silver tube thing you see, there are 2 holes on the back for in/out takes. It does hinder how high I can put the light though, cause it needs room to move the air through. That must help huge to keep the temps down on the light. All in all there are 4 fans in there. I usually open the doors daily and fan out the cabinet as humidity gets high. They love it, I set a floor fan in front of the open doors and set it on low for about 20 minutes or so. I spritz my plants daily top with either distilled water or collected rain water. They seem to like the misting.
Try setting smal table top or travel fan inside the cabinet for now, your plants are small enough. And set it to oscallate on low.
Good luck,
Chiceh

Any updates? I'm on the fence about the Cool Cab, everywhere I go I keep hearing about heating issues. I have no problem with putting a standalone A/C unit next to it though...

No heat issues yet with the Cool Cab. It does have a thermal switch that will turn it off at 105f and it has a heat smoke detector included. But like I said, no problems yet with heat. I open the doors everynight just after the lights come on to fan out the cabinet and get I mist them.
It also comes wth a 250cfm fan with inline air cooled refelector with over 6m of ducting which provides extra cooling to the light.
It comes with an external monitor to indicate inside, outside temps alond with humidity readings.
Good luck, I will have a pic in my grow journal today of the whole unit.

Chiceh

Venting into the attic.I do this right now and have been for over a year.I live in a high humidity part of the usa.One thing you have to do is carbon filter the air exhausted in to the attic.If you dont want to get busted.Than install a louver vent at the end of the house with a thermostal fan on the inside of the vent.Both fan and louver vent you can get at homedepot or lowes or places like that.I have did it and the cooling cost drop a little,I mean a little,$10.00.No smell, no high humidity in the attic and your grow is vented,along with the attic too.Cost around $125.00For all of it.It dose your whole house good by venting the attic.Keep the pixs so we can see how they are doing,best of luck too.PEACE

Hi all. Earlier in the thread I mentioned heat issues and venting into the attic. I went the extra step of adding a hose to the fans that draw air in and venting them from inside air. I also added another muffin fan for exhaust. This is the only way I can keep the heat down. My 2nd grow is just wrapping up and it's a funny story. The White Widow that ate suburbia! I did LST and still ran out of room. Had to trim buds off.... and I'm not complaining!