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Resinhound said:

Of course you've read it somewhere, people do all kinds of dumb stuff to this plant. This is nothing new.

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Many soak seeds till they sink here as another method, thats generally a 12 hour soak, a lot of them are far from noobs...

Resinhound said:

It's not My method it's the seeds method.

Who cares if yours is showing leaves 2 days before mine. In the grand scheme of things that doesn't mean much.

Like I said you are growing the plant for 3 monthes, and you feel the need to worry about 1 or 2 days?

Bah whatever lol.

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When youve planted as many seeds as i have you tend to get more efficient.

Kingrow1 said:

Many soak seeds till they sink here as another method, thats generally a 12 hour soak, a lot of them are far from noobs...

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Who cares? It's not necessary... Seeds have been germinating without that for millions of years bro... Jesus, lol. It what they do... They fall on the ground and fucking sprout.. Lol.

Kingrow1 said:

Exactly that yes, if i put a seed in soil and dig it up 24 hours later then id be lucky if the shells even split open but if i soak for 24 hours in water then its split and i can see the white root poking out already.

This was a method used by many on riu for the quickest germination and heavily tested by many years back, i guess most just forget the work done by a lot of growers here.

Knocks a day of germination time quite easily, not hard to try for yourself either

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This is just another misunderstood tool. Soaking seeds is to soften stubborn old seeds or varieties that produce very hard seeds. Not all seeds are the same and good fresh stock is easy to germinate in many ways. I like to taproot in a coffee filter. My seeds take about 24 to 36 hours in a moist filter and plastic bag to show a nice thick root. But I keep them in the dark and at a good temperature.

Same 24 to 36 hours to sprout. No soaking ever. Consistent results for a couple of years with a lot of seeds planted.

got this info from growers and breeders. And experience.

And wait for it.......actual garden and botany books.

If you left them in a little longer they would've popped into buds, just like popcorn

Olive Drab Green said:

Maybe they'll have magic powers now. Or maybe grow sterile flowers. 50/50.

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Why are u awake at 4:30 am...
Please share

Resinhound said:

Who cares? It's not necessary... Seeds have been germinating without that for millions of years bro... Jesus, lol. It what they do... They fall on the ground and fucking sprout.. Lol.

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I dont disagree but there are other methods, personally new growers should learn to germinate in soil first.

MichiganMedGrower said:

This is just another misunderstood tool. Soaking seeds is to soften stubborn old seeds or varieties that produce very hard seeds. Not all seeds are the same and good fresh stock is easy to germinate in many ways. I like to taproot in a coffee filter. My seeds take about 24 to 36 hours in a moist filter and plastic bag to show a nice thick root. But I keep them in the dark and at a good temperature.

Same 24 to 36 hours to sprout. No soaking ever. Consistent results for a couple of years with a lot of seeds planted.

got this info from growers and breeders. And experience.

And wait for it.......actual garden and botany books.

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It started out like that but peeps adopted it for a quicker germination. I prefer to see a very small taproot before i plant in rockwool as it makes it a little easier for the root to grow directly down the hole and pop out the bottom. Often when i dont soak till taproot and just plant a dry seed in rockwool the root can miss the hole and it takes longer to work its way through the rockwool and i dont get a rooted cube as quick.

Again finer points but we dont all have to act like were teaching basics to new growers and enough of us have progressed to a point where weve tried it all ways and all are viable.

Ive never liked the paper towel method and some seem to get far too long a tap root but many get just as good seedlings. I loved the challenge of germinating in straight perlite and posted my results.

VTMi'kmaq said:

Why are u awake at 4:30 am...
Please share

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Dude if you smoke weed and your not up at 4.30am then i dont know what the fuck your doing

Resinhound said:

Who cares? ....

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Exactly what I thought when I saw your first post dredging up the argument yet again. Why do you care what others do? Just do it your "natural" way, marvel at your finished product and congratulate yourself on your superiority.

Scratch. Yer nuts and sniff yer fingers please

Bacala said:

Exactly what I thought when I saw your first post dredging up the argument yet again. Why do you care what others do? Just do it your "natural" way, marvel at your finished product and congratulate yourself on your superiority.

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Chill dude, resinhound is cool by me, just talk really....

Kingrow1 said:

It started out like that but peeps adopted it for a quicker germination. I prefer to see a very small taproot before i plant in rockwool as it makes it a little easier for the root to grow directly down the hole and pop out the bottom. Often when i dont soak till taproot and just plant a dry seed in rockwool the root can miss the hole and it takes longer to work its way through the rockwool and i dont get a rooted cube as quick.

Again finer points but we dont all have to act like were teaching basics to new growers and enough of us have progressed to a point where weve tried it all ways and all are viable.

Ive never liked the paper towel method and some seem to get far too long a tap root but many get just as good seedlings. I loved the challenge of germinating in straight perlite and posted my results.

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I agree mostly but keeping seeds in water can easily attract bacteria mold and disease. It does not speed germination unless the seeds are tough or old. If it opens in the water you can have problems.

I read about botany and gardening for a few years before I grew. And the forums because of brief chatting and growing stress are full of half truths and misinformation.

Your post of soaking seeds for faster results is an example. Don't fresh seeds off a plant tend to die in a puddle outside?While the drier one germinates?

Just to state. I believe you know very well what works for you. But beginners are reading all this mostly.

I recomend doing what the breeder suggests. You will see they all recommend different methods.

It is because they all have different seed structure and the experience working with their own stuff.

Just like in your individual grow.

Alot of times it depends on the beans viability because yes, stubborn seeds exist, epecially when aged or the mother had bad deficiencies. I noticed when using good seeds planted straight into the medium in a high rh% 85f environment it usually takes 2 days for good beans to pop and sprout, the 85f/80% humidity is what seems to speed them up. I planted these 2 days ago in an attempt to dial down a new batch of soil that was gifted to me.

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I always soak seeds until.tap shows. Then I to paper towel for a couple more days, then into my.medium. never had any issues.

DemonTrich said:

I always soak seeds until.tap shows. Then I to paper towel for a couple more days, then into my.medium. never had any issues.

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And likely you wouldn't have had any issues if you would have just stuck them in the dirt and skipped all those steps as well.

DemonTrich said:

I always soak seeds until.tap shows. Then I to paper towel for a couple more days, then into my.medium. never had any issues.

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I wonder if the paper towel helps wick excess moisture away from the seed. In a coffee filter it would just make a little puddle.

I did my first seeds in water and then on a cotton pad to tap root but it was in the breeders germination guide like that. They know their own seeds.

My new seeds are from a different breeder with different instructions.

Truth is @Resinhound has the best general advice about this here. As a rule anyway.

Personally I can't stand not knowing what is going on under the dirt. So I always still tap root them first but for my own paranoia really.

I look at it this way... All this Bullshit may speed up germination and hell it possibly could increase germ rates for tough or old seeds. However that's not always a good thing, you don't WANT a seed that can't germ without help.This is what helps prevent runts in nature, only the most viable seeds sprout and live to pass on their genetics.

Don't short change yourself out of this natural process, strong seeds make strong plants.

Resinhound said:

I look at it this way... All this Bullshit may speed up germination and hell it possibly could increase germ rates for tough or old seeds. However that's not always a good thing, you don't WANT a seed that can't germ without help.This is what helps prevent runts in nature, only the most viable seeds sprout and live to pass on their genetics.

Don't short change yourself out of this natural process, strong seeds make strong plants.

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i have not noticed sprouting time to effect the quality of my plants. And stubborn seeds in nature sometimes sprout the next season after being frozen and then thaw germinate and continue the cycle don't they?