silusbotwin
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I was under the impression that ALL dispensaries were closed because of new legislature. Where are there any dispensaries open? Anywhere downriver?
What does it cost you to run that 1K?
Michigan Growers Tell Your Plans for This Year
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I was under the impression that ALL dispensaries were closed because of new legislature. Where are there any dispensaries open? Anywhere downriver?
What does it cost you to run that 1K?
hammer6913
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i heard u can can get meds from a co-op but dont know where to find 1. maybe we should start 1.
it costs me bout 90 a month to run 1 1k light. and i wanna add another.. and im not even medicated yet.. duh. but i want nice tight ripe buds all the way to the floor. if i could ever expand, i would put a shit load of lights on the side and underneath to shine up. but the feds and nobama will totally screw us on this. not having much confidence in our fucked up governme3nt state local or national.
Shwagbag
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Yeah I love the rate of growth from T5, if I used 400 MH they would grow too fast and I could probably only manage half the strains I'm doing now.
hammer6913
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yea i have so many crammend in my flower room they are growing to fast actually and not finishin fast. im not gonna clone for awhile i have all the clones i need now however i have some new seeds i wanna give a try. some strains i have this is the last of em. im only keepin like 2 of what is in flower now.
i just got a pineapple exp cant wait for that..
hammer6913
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has anyone seen this? i just found this @
riddlem3.com.
Posted on October 19, 2011
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HOW MUCH POT IS TOO MUCH WHEN DRIVING? OUI, DUI, Driving While Impaired,
Today, in a case handled by Neil Rockind, P.C., a district court judge has declared that the Operating with the Presence of Drugs (OWPD) statute, as it pertains to Marijuana, violates the Equal Protection Clause of the U.S. Constitution and as a result is unconstitutional.
The opinion is ground-breaking.
For longer than anyone can remember, Michigan prosecutors and city attorneys have been able to obtain convictions against people who are operating and driving
vehicles safely, exhibiting no signs of impairment or intoxication but who, it is later discovered, have small amounts of marijuana in their system.
While the law used to require prosecutors to have to prove that a person was intoxicated or impaired in order to convict them of a crime, lab technicians and government experts complained that it was too difficult to offer an opinion on intoxication due to drugs because there was no set level similar to alcohol, e.g., .10 BAC or .08 BAC, where it was presumed that a person was intoxicated due to drugs. They argued that the presence of any drugs in a persons system should be sufficient. As is often the case, the law was modified (in our opinion) to make it easier to convict people. Out of this amendment was born the Operating with Presence of Drugs Statute (OWPD). People became sitting ducks if they had any remnant of some controlled substance.
Along comes our client,
N.S., who had consulted with two (2) other prominent lawyers regarding a Operating with the Presence of Drugs charge before discharging them and hiring Neil Rockind and Neil Rockind, P.C. On the date in question, our client was driving his car. He was not driving erratically. Nor was he driving dangerously. He was stopped for a minor traffic infraction and when the officer began speaking with him, detected an odor of marijuana. Our client, in an effort to be honest, admitted to using marijuana. The officer arrested our client and subjected him to a blood test. The test revealed the presence of a minimal amount of THC, i.e., marijuana.
At Neil Rockind, P.C., we never give up. As the saying goes: You have to hate to lose, more than you like to win. We hate to lose so much that it is just not an option for us. We just cant accept a loss and while a myriad of lawyers were telling
our client or us to accept it, we didnt. Criminal Defense Attorneys Neil Rockind and Colin Daniels noticed a few things about the case and the law.
1) Our client was charged with Operating with the Presence of Drugs in his system;
2) The crime requires a Schedule 1 controlled substance;
3) The drug in question in our clients case was THC or marijuana;
4) Marijuana was classified as a Schedule 1 controlled substance;
5) A Schedule 1 controlled substance is one that has no medicinal benefit;
6) The Michigan Medical Marijuana Act was passed in 2008 and enacted in 2009;
5) The Michigan Medical Marijuana Act states that marijuana has a medicinal benefit;
6) A medical marijuana patient would necessarily have marijuana in his sytem;
7) A medical marijuana patient cannot be charged with Operating with the Presence of Drugs in his system but would instead need to be
impaired or intoxicated in order to be convicted;
8 ) A medical marijuana patient could have marijuana in his system but not be guilty of a crime absence proof of impairment while a regular citizen using the same amount of marijuana could have the same amount of marijuana in his system but would be guilty of crime just for having that marijuana in his system;
9) Therefore, medical marijuana patients and regular citizens are being treated differently for no reason. Neither is less safe than the other, yet one could operate with marijuana in his system while the other could not not.
We concluded that this disparate treatment, i.e., inequality, was illegal. Accordingly, we filed an Equal Protection challenge to the Operating With the Presence of Drugs statute. After we filed our motion to dismiss, the court gave the prosecution time to respond. Interestingly, the prosecutor chose to focus on extraneous issues.
Upon our return to the courthouse, the Court ruled that the Michigan Medical Marijuana Act repealed (by implication) Michigans Schedule 1 Controlled Substance Act as it relates to marijuana/THC. The judge looked at the prosecutor and offered her more time to respond. We patiently waited as the prosecutor took additional time to deal with this landmark decision Schedule 1 no longer applied to marijuana in Michigan. After reading the prosecutions responsive argument, we knew we were on to something they chose not to address certain cases and facts again.
At a hearing today, Judge Kirsten Neilson-Hartig carefully and meticulously laid out her opinion and her rationale. Her ruling revealed a deeper understanding and examination of the law, history, terms and phrases than many more experienced, higher seniority judges are capable on their best day. Listening to the judge, it became clear that we
had prevailed, but more so, it was clear that the Judge had issued a wonderfully reasoned and insightful opinion.
MCL 257.625(
, the offense that prohibits Operating With the Presence of Drugs is unconstitutional as it relates to marijuana. Marijuana is not a Schedule 1 drug because it has medicinal benefit. Both our client and a medical marijuana user use marijuana. The former can be arrested for having marijuana in his system even the smallest, miniscule amount would subject to him arrest and conviction. The latter could use the marijuana and the prosecution would have to prove impairment in order convict. The judge said (paraphrasing) ,
I find the Operating With the Presence of Drugs statute, MCL 257.625(
, unconstitutional and in violation of the Equal Protection Clause. The case is dismissed.
This is a ground breaking ruling and it was obtained by Neil Rockind, P.C.,
Southfield, Michigan criminal defense attorneys Neil Rockind and Colin Daniels. Where most lawyers would have thrown in the towel, Rockind and Daniels pushed on. A bad statute is no more and a good man, our client, is set free.
- Neil Rockind
riddlem3.com.
Posted on October 19, 2011
Return To OnlinePot's Legal Section Main Page
HOW MUCH POT IS TOO MUCH WHEN DRIVING? OUI, DUI, Driving While Impaired,
Today, in a case handled by Neil Rockind, P.C., a district court judge has declared that the Operating with the Presence of Drugs (OWPD) statute, as it pertains to Marijuana, violates the Equal Protection Clause of the U.S. Constitution and as a result is unconstitutional.
The opinion is ground-breaking.
For longer than anyone can remember, Michigan prosecutors and city attorneys have been able to obtain convictions against people who are operating and driving
vehicles safely, exhibiting no signs of impairment or intoxication but who, it is later discovered, have small amounts of marijuana in their system.
While the law used to require prosecutors to have to prove that a person was intoxicated or impaired in order to convict them of a crime, lab technicians and government experts complained that it was too difficult to offer an opinion on intoxication due to drugs because there was no set level similar to alcohol, e.g., .10 BAC or .08 BAC, where it was presumed that a person was intoxicated due to drugs. They argued that the presence of any drugs in a persons system should be sufficient. As is often the case, the law was modified (in our opinion) to make it easier to convict people. Out of this amendment was born the Operating with Presence of Drugs Statute (OWPD). People became sitting ducks if they had any remnant of some controlled substance.
Along comes our client,
N.S., who had consulted with two (2) other prominent lawyers regarding a Operating with the Presence of Drugs charge before discharging them and hiring Neil Rockind and Neil Rockind, P.C. On the date in question, our client was driving his car. He was not driving erratically. Nor was he driving dangerously. He was stopped for a minor traffic infraction and when the officer began speaking with him, detected an odor of marijuana. Our client, in an effort to be honest, admitted to using marijuana. The officer arrested our client and subjected him to a blood test. The test revealed the presence of a minimal amount of THC, i.e., marijuana.
At Neil Rockind, P.C., we never give up. As the saying goes: You have to hate to lose, more than you like to win. We hate to lose so much that it is just not an option for us. We just cant accept a loss and while a myriad of lawyers were telling
our client or us to accept it, we didnt. Criminal Defense Attorneys Neil Rockind and Colin Daniels noticed a few things about the case and the law.
1) Our client was charged with Operating with the Presence of Drugs in his system;
2) The crime requires a Schedule 1 controlled substance;
3) The drug in question in our clients case was THC or marijuana;
4) Marijuana was classified as a Schedule 1 controlled substance;
5) A Schedule 1 controlled substance is one that has no medicinal benefit;
6) The Michigan Medical Marijuana Act was passed in 2008 and enacted in 2009;
5) The Michigan Medical Marijuana Act states that marijuana has a medicinal benefit;
6) A medical marijuana patient would necessarily have marijuana in his sytem;
7) A medical marijuana patient cannot be charged with Operating with the Presence of Drugs in his system but would instead need to be
impaired or intoxicated in order to be convicted;
8 ) A medical marijuana patient could have marijuana in his system but not be guilty of a crime absence proof of impairment while a regular citizen using the same amount of marijuana could have the same amount of marijuana in his system but would be guilty of crime just for having that marijuana in his system;
9) Therefore, medical marijuana patients and regular citizens are being treated differently for no reason. Neither is less safe than the other, yet one could operate with marijuana in his system while the other could not not.
We concluded that this disparate treatment, i.e., inequality, was illegal. Accordingly, we filed an Equal Protection challenge to the Operating With the Presence of Drugs statute. After we filed our motion to dismiss, the court gave the prosecution time to respond. Interestingly, the prosecutor chose to focus on extraneous issues.
Upon our return to the courthouse, the Court ruled that the Michigan Medical Marijuana Act repealed (by implication) Michigans Schedule 1 Controlled Substance Act as it relates to marijuana/THC. The judge looked at the prosecutor and offered her more time to respond. We patiently waited as the prosecutor took additional time to deal with this landmark decision Schedule 1 no longer applied to marijuana in Michigan. After reading the prosecutions responsive argument, we knew we were on to something they chose not to address certain cases and facts again.
At a hearing today, Judge Kirsten Neilson-Hartig carefully and meticulously laid out her opinion and her rationale. Her ruling revealed a deeper understanding and examination of the law, history, terms and phrases than many more experienced, higher seniority judges are capable on their best day. Listening to the judge, it became clear that we
had prevailed, but more so, it was clear that the Judge had issued a wonderfully reasoned and insightful opinion.
MCL 257.625(
I find the Operating With the Presence of Drugs statute, MCL 257.625(
This is a ground breaking ruling and it was obtained by Neil Rockind, P.C.,
Southfield, Michigan criminal defense attorneys Neil Rockind and Colin Daniels. Where most lawyers would have thrown in the towel, Rockind and Daniels pushed on. A bad statute is no more and a good man, our client, is set free.
- Neil Rockind
dankshizzle
Well-Known Member
Green oasis in otisville
Green ben in flint. Actually all of them in Flint. Henessey county has an add on the radio stating "were keeping them open till the people vote it out." They obviously don't want any more abandoned buildings
.
Green ben in flint. Actually all of them in Flint. Henessey county has an add on the radio stating "were keeping them open till the people vote it out." They obviously don't want any more abandoned buildings
.
Green Dave
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Happy Thanksgiving to all
You are not planting in soil that becomes hardened when dry are ya? They are not coming up outta the dirt correct. How deep you planting them I hope not more deeper then 1 inch. How the temps not too hot I hope. Soil is not toxic is it it is new soil right. You will be a master of the seed lets learn now. Tell us about your dirt please and then the conditions of your surroundings. They are germinating but not popping so it lies in your conditions after germination the answer does
Good to see ya hammer. Thanks kindone.
Michigan will only get more marijuana as the years go by thus the toyota dank is your best bet if you wanna yacht. The people want the money not the pot. The pot I sell is usually broken down a few times before it even hits the crowd. Anymore it is about the money my people will take an ounce for 125 faster then they will an ounce for 200 because there is more money in it for them. A man would rather make 175 off an ounce then he would 100. But I know you all know that already
Change is constant even the marijuana seen. The crowds are getting bigger, The growers are becoming more plentifull, Genetics are over the place, We are getting overgrown and this is good. The more that smoke are more that vote. The infection is spreading and soon will be everywhere.. Operation Overgrow is in effect and has been since it was declared all them years ago. We are seeing the effects of Overgrow and by my calculations will be in full swing in 3 more years.lol
Change is constant even the marijuana seen. The crowds are getting bigger, The growers are becoming more plentifull, Genetics are over the place, We are getting overgrown and this is good. The more that smoke are more that vote. The infection is spreading and soon will be everywhere.. Operation Overgrow is in effect and has been since it was declared all them years ago. We are seeing the effects of Overgrow and by my calculations will be in full swing in 3 more years.lol
midwestmmj
Well-Known Member
qwubble sounds delicious, whats the genetics in that? you have any bud pics? you a fan of feminized seeds 
Shwagbag
Well-Known Member
Hell yeah I will take an ounce for 125 before I take one for 200 but what is the compromise? Usually it means inferior pot if you're comparing a price difference like that or more. If it means the same quality of pot and the value is deflated so severely, I would stop growing most likely because its not even worth growing at that cost for a small grow op. I would make one of you my caregiver and buy it from you lol. What Rzza said, please share some of your qwubble pics
dankshizzle
Well-Known Member
Im just gonna grow 24 and keep it all as a head stash. Slang a sack every now and then..
hammer6913
Well-Known Member
hey hic, thanks for the kind words bro. i will get some pics of my set up. ima gonna bring my cloning and seed work in the house.. just gonna use a box, heat mat and a 10 gallon clear storage tote. i used it for cloning and it worked beautifully. but im not able to always spray them 4 5 times a day.. so it will sit on the kitchen table.. j bought a bale of humbolt dirt i thought i would use . very fluffy, no nutes. ill get this figured out i got some red cherry berry seeds to get sprouted but will work with some others 1st. got a lot to try. thanks man. i also have some michigan pollen. he calls it raid 2010. the only plant to survive the barry county sherriff dept raid. but they have been growing it for like 15 years. outdoors and indoors. well im ramblin so ill catch ya later..
james42
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Hey guys, whats your take on storing bud in below freezing temps?
i just couldnt sleep good knowing all this bud is on my property so i moved the bulk of it out in the woods. Its in a dry safe place but its cold out.
I used to see guys freezing there dope all the time, but not so much anymore. Im wondering if theres a reason for that.
i just couldnt sleep good knowing all this bud is on my property so i moved the bulk of it out in the woods. Its in a dry safe place but its cold out.
I used to see guys freezing there dope all the time, but not so much anymore. Im wondering if theres a reason for that.
rzza
Well-Known Member
I think your all good, some people store in fridge. I would hesitate to allow it to freeze though.
Shwagbag
Well-Known Member
If I were forced to do that I would vacuum seal that shiznit.
james42
Well-Known Member
I have a vac sealer but i dont really want to compress it. Ive heard that letting it freeze makes the trics brittle and break off real easy. Im thinking if im real carefull with it and bring it back up to room temp before i handle it i should be ok.
It might not be the best thing for my bud, but i feel like a huge weight has been lifted getting that off my property.
I feel u guys's pain on the lack of demand and low prices latelly too. I didnt think i would have to put this shit in long term storage
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