Merical Grow VS Advanced Nutrients

I just did a large grow with AN in coco and was not amazed. I used the three part along with big bud, B52 and overdrive. I am not to amazed with the results and am wondering it i would get the same results with Merical Grow and some other bud phase additives? It think I might have wasted money.

It's not that AN is necessarily bad, it's just that it's overpriced to the point that I think you were expecting something exceptional. I just switched a friend away from AN's sensi series to another nute brand because I saw first hand how lack luster is garden was. $600 per month and he honestly couldn't tell a difference between AN and his previous fertilzer; Pure Blend from Botanicare. After switching him to another nute brand and giving him a feeding schedule, today I saw his grow for the first time in 30 days and he's doing fantastic now.

Kali mist has me rambling a little this evening but what I'm trying to get at is that you can spend less and get better results, but miracle grow may be pushing it a little.

i used all of adv nutes products for sensi grow/bloom charts and i found that if i stuck to the normal feeding routines, ie. low ppm , that the results were not great.
when i experimented a little with the amounts of each add-on and fertiliser i found each time my final yields got bigger n bigger.

after a year or so of messin around with adv nutes i came to 1 conclusion n thats to start high n keep going. (for example - my rooted and non rooted clones were on an ec of 1.2 )....

i never stopped at peak feed , i kept raising the ec till wk 6 then flushed for 2 wks. at the point of starting the flush my ec was 3.2-3.6 which most ppl wudnt recommend but i found the plants can handle increases of this nature quite well.

b52 was the only product i didnt like , it burnt my ladies within hours of being added so it never got used again.
as for bigbud liquid , i wish i still had sum lol coz its the doggies nuts when it comes to bloom enhancers. esp when added alongside overdrive, mother earth , voodoo juice, senszyme, pirahna n tarantula...

so what would yall recommend me going with this next round? I plan on doing a large coco grow and an aeroponic system each in different locations at the same time.

if you still have adv nutes stuff there then id go with that till u run out but each to there own m8.
other great ferts are greenhaze (2part feed) , vitalink MAX (2 part feed) theres too many to list in all honesty.

everyone will or wud recommend the nutes there using if they had decent results but what works fine for me might not wrk for you , so i wud suggest buying any 2 part feed n giving it a try this time. every grow bump the strength up a tiny bit , for example- if you started feeding at 5 ml per litre this time round , then next time round start with 7ml per litre (first feed).. and so on n so on.

each week after the 1st feed i bump my nute strength up till i reach wk 6, most wont agree with me on that but i get very gd results. way i see it is , why reduce the feeds when the plants put on the most weight near the end.
maybe its my way of thinkin but im sure keepin the strength up like this actually helps with bud production coz why make ur bitches struggle for food when they actually need it the most..

i cud be totally wrong with wot ive just said n no doubt sum1 will pop in to tell you diff but i believe it to work..

its up to you wot ferts you go with n wotever you decide there will be ppl in here that will and can help you if you run into probz.
good luck m8..

Try growing with no nutes? Have you tried that? Then try a single product and compare.. continue......

People buy far far too many additives, keep it simple!

anyone else? any cheap nutes that work like the expensive ones?

bump anyone have anything

it depends what miracle grow you want to use, you 'could' use it, as it does contain nitrogen, phosphor and potassium, you would think that the brands that are specifically designed to help this type of plant would do what they say on the tin though, I'd say give it a go, if it doesn't work then switch to AN or use no nutes.

bcguy01 said:

I just did a large grow with AN in coco and was not amazed. I used the three part along with big bud, B52 and overdrive. I am not to amazed with the results and am wondering it i would get the same results with Merical Grow and some other bud phase additives? It think I might have wasted money.

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wow bro you spent all that money on AN and couldnt post some pictures? lol something smells like fraud AN is great by the way you must be doing something wrong....

no it was ok I went and bought the best of everything and only got 2 oz's a plant and vegged for 5 weeks. i just wonder where i messed up? I really worked hard on the setup and taking care of them. I am already going again and just want to get the most out of my money i spend

Give Dyna-Gro a try. Ultra stable, super cheap, super concentrated and it has al 16 macro and micro nutes. I switched from AN and I will never go back to them. They are a complete scam.
You dont need and additives with Dyna Gro, but if you want you can use their Protekt, silicone additive. They have very few additives because most additives are a scam meant to pilfer your wallet. DG is one of the oldest hydro nutrient companies and have been perfecting their product for decades.

do any of the bud phase additives work? I see lots of companies selling them. some people swear by them

I personally use a mix of different companies but my base nutes is an. I used to use the gh flora micro,gro,bloom with great success

To the "try growing with no nutes" suggestion - that's stupid. In soil that's possible but not in hydroponics.

To the guy whining about pictures... not everyone posts pictures. I don't. There's several good reasons not to. I know I like to see the pictures other people post, but if they want to be extra careful and not risk giving anything away to feds that's their choice and I respect. Not everyone grows in a medical state, and even then the DEA can be douches if policy changes. Once you put something online you can never expect to delete it. You can't know how laws will change in the future...

To the OP - it sounds to me like you didn't have your grow dialed in. When you have it all set right you should see some great growth. And to your question about bloom boosters I've seen great things with Big Bud. Up to you if you want to try it.

Plants need nutrients like most living things , including me. I say this cause I use AN and am going 100 percent organic when connesouir is out. I have been trying cheap soil alternatives, cause well , right now, I have been brought down to my monthly expenses and its getting by. I use 3 cu feet of peat moss and 3, of vermiculite, buy this is for test right now and the moms. Once I get media here shortly I am going 3 cu ft peat moss and 2 of coco black gold , instead of the vermiculite. A couple the mothers retain moisture wayyyy better looking quality of media and its only like 70-75 locally for 10 cu ft. I can't get rice hulls that I know of here so it is cheapest. But yea I am using GMB from AN right now in couple dif medias, I have tried alot about 3-4 different soils before this cheaper round, money is tight right now cause I just moved into my residence. I have uses jacks classic and subcools super soil, both which were great , but the connesouir is way more flavorful and resin filled. Granted the jacks classic was easy as could be but it's all salt based. Which is why I am switching to iguana juice prob nirvana and beneficial next go with the organic media mix. All hundred percent. So it is all attached to a carbon molecule and not an inorganic salt molecule that is harder to leech from the plant building up potentially inside you
which just is bad news. The good thing I noticed tho while AN was more to mix and feed , it tastes far superior than the jacks classic or subcools super soil. GRANTED when I had ran the super soil , I had used bag seed. None the less I had used bag seed , when I was in Indiana, non-medical state , running a sea of bush setup. I had a decent mahogny haze that took about 77 days and an amazing Pakistan kush bagseed that was like lime cream only way better than any cream I tasted, only way to describe the lime terpienes. Sp. None the less the paki took forever to root and was a hassle to trim. Also had a very very wierd spicy mentholly only not mentholly almost toxic tasting sativa, which would be done with the Pakis for the most part, I had got it from bagaeed out of a qp I got in Indy from my bro Dave. Lol. I planted them all in a 5 gallon fabric container (smart pot) and it was a land race from there. I liked the look of a raspberry smelling one with a beautiful deep burgendy tinge to it, almost des ibong the mentholly taste, but not in that deep richness, but a more yang sharpness that plays on the back of the throat. Most were from bagseed from Martinsville , In. Which came from Indianapolis, which came from Mexico in semi truck I believe. Wrapped in grease is what they said. Disgusting. Fine medicine tho. Lol but yea if the feds allow people to ship plants over in greased up gas tanks,cringe, why would they care if you peacefully and I do mean peacefully.pro cure your medicine safely in your own natural life loving way . At the end of the day, we are all human beings from the earth, who will live in a society peacefully one way or the other. Kinda a long rant but I got nothing but time right now. One day I hope to establish a figu study group here in Michigan I believe. Now I am a legal cars holder again. Was one also in California. I am just starting running , ocean grown kush (og kush ) , chemdawg, jack herer , all 3 from Cali dispensaries I believe, at least someone dispensing them , lol. Also picked up ecsd at the local Jackson farmers medical marijuana market, crock its only on weekends, tho the one on lansing is open thurs-sun. Seems odds they charge people to disperse a plant medicine, 35 a day? I mean come on. I need to meet some people to be caregivers for anyway. Since I am outraged they try to charge over 200 an oz. I am hoping to get my patients dozers (lol miss yea Dave, and them boulders, haha) for 200 -140 depending on what happens. Lol some days in Indiana of charge a 100 a quad then later be a hundred an oz, lol same plants. Some people just would hear me and would just say here you go I need medicine. Seems outrageous such a high prices for.such a beautiful plant. But keep in mind the joys of cannabis is patience, so that is why it is so costly, to make sure people can afford to keep a good vibe going. Also got Apollo bx I assume wrongly labled apollo13 Bx, a local mi blueberry strain that just pile drives thru nutes. Also a white skunk testes by iron labs at 19.6 percent , so curious to see what she tests here , cost 50 dollars at coop like a mile away from here and they list all the terpins sp unlike some other places. Also got Hindu kush, and the famous Casey Jones I am really excited about. Well, starting from practically nothing and hoping to get my way to a figu study group again in America. If you haven't heard of FIGU, look into it, Billy Meier really is it. Nuff said. Peace in wisdom , Salome, omfalon murado ...

Well I just walked around and did a few things, noticed as I went into grow room how much more nutes the Apollo needs next to anything else, the blueberry is really s good strain so far , don't look like a bud rot threat , wish I knew what it was as the guy I got it from used to "run" a dispensary in lansing and said that it was intact a local bred blueberry strain, so idk , if so looks phenominal hybrid vigor. Alltho the white skunk is just a little more stretchy to it, I am really excited , just wanted to comment a good idea of breeding in such hot soil tho to find such great phenos you don't have to worry about over doing. Idk peon start a thread or something once I figure out to upload pics on this mobile phone thru the internet. Well peace in wisdom, Salome, omfalon murado...

Well the nodes come out tho so I just meant the white skunk is more hybrid vigor as it has bypassed the just recently underferted blueberry, its not hydro, but it all gets recycled in my place, not in the sewer , so I am cool with that.