Medical Scrog: My first Real Grow

PakChild said:

Hey man, haven't checked in awhile, lookin good, you got an idea about how much longer til you chop em? I'm having over crowding issues with mine right now. But I wanted to also ask, do u have some decent size colas going on? don't get me wrong they look great but from the pictures it seems like their short and fat buds. my other question is, when you started flowering them how long did you keep pulling them under or did you just let them go for the most part?

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I had a little time one night so counted how many budsites there are and came up with around 330 maybe a little more. The short fat cheese colas(around 230) average about 6 inches. I clipped an average size bud about a week ago, quick dried it on my ballast(pretty crispy), and it weighed 2.8g x230=644g/1.43lb of cheese. Since then they have fattened up quite a bit and I'm about to start shooting powder tomorrow. I'm hoping that in the next 2-3 weeks they'll end up being at least 4g's each average maybe more....that's a little over 2lb. As for the 100 VK and SB buds, I'm hoping that they're going to blow up at some point, but for now I have no guesstimation on how much they'll weigh.

They were all trained until the end of stretch, at which point, they were about 3-4 in. above the screen. The vanilla kush decided to keep gradually growing though. Once it got to a certain point, I couldn't pull the branches underneath the screen anymore. It's kind of a fragile strain too, likes to snap. I don't mind though, I want to see how it grows being a little taller.

The VK and SB have 3-4 weeks and the cheese 2-3.

thats good to know, cause I have about the same setup, just in soil. thanks for the info though, appreciate it.

whats up cuz, hope everything is still going good. did the kush ever start to bud up for you yet? let me know when your done what your yeild ends up being. you should send me some samples when your done........ha. anyways im just bored , fucking around on the computer, already found a few connects out here good price too. ill talk to ya soon..."teddy".
ryan

Damn, thats a lot of bud sites.... Bountiful harvest for sure.

ryan3281986 said:

whats up cuz, hope everything is still going good. did the kush ever start to bud up for you yet? let me know when your done what your yeild ends up being. you should send me some samples when your done........ha. anyways im just bored , fucking around on the computer, already found a few connects out here good price too. ill talk to ya soon..."teddy".
ryan

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Let me introduce you guys to my cousin, he's one of the people that helped learn me how to grow....particularly in hydro.

How's it bud. The kush keep gradually getting a little fatter each day. They haven't really had any spurts just consistent growth. Although I am noticing today that they did plump up a little more than usual so maybe the affects of the top booster are starting to kick in. They look and grow a little sativa-ish, so it's probably a ten week plant especially going from seed. The smell is incredible, unlike anything I've come across. If you molest a bud leaf a little a smell your fingers you'll twinge because of how sharp and clear the smell of vanilla is. It's like vanilla with a little floral added to it. Our friends we got the cheese from think so too so I'm gonna trade it for one or two of their new strains. I might just have to get ya some. Smoked a little premature sample bud and it tasted just like, and just as strong, as it smelled.
Send me a private message with your number, I lost it. later

sounds good bud, if it were me i would hit them with some foxfarm(i always saw about 2x in size in a matter of 2-3 days) but see what they do with the way you are doing and if your not satisfied with the results try the fox farm big bloom on your next pull to compare, i wouldnt mind knowing the difference myself. but if you can set some aside cause my friend that works at the b.c. despinsary is coming out feb. 19 and she could bring it with. ill give you a call today so you have my number. whats going on with the city laws? are they going to make you register? let me know,

everything looks awesome man very nice setup! its crazy i fell onto your thread cause im doing something very similar.
2 1000w
2 4x4 trays
top feed hydro into hydroton filled pots

but I have a few questions tho.

You vegged for only 12 days from a 5" clone when did you introduce the screen?

How many plants you think would be good to fill my 4x8 screen?

What size trays do you have?

running 2000 watts in a 4x8 ft. area? wow.

newdude79 said:

running 2000 watts in a 4x8 ft. area? wow.

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Seems perfect to me. Two 1,000 or three 600 for that space.

Merry Christmas all!!

My Christmas doob is 2.4 grams (including the paper) of SourDiesel, BlueMystic, Headband, Whitehead kush, Crimson kush, and SensiStar. Throw in some keif from the grinder for good measure.

newdude79 said:

running 2000 watts in a 4x8 ft. area? wow.

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what does that mean?
perfect 1000w footprint is 4x4ft or 5x5 but i perfer 4x4

My bad, I've never used wattage like that, just sounded like alot to me, but I guess it's not. Sorry.

ran4it2 said:

what does that mean?
perfect 1000w footprint is 4x4ft or 5x5 but i perfer 4x4

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1000 watts in a 4x4 is great for sure as long as you keep it cool. A 600 would also be totally adequate. I've seen people use a single 1000 in an 8x8 space and have good results in the whole garden. 2000 watts in a 4x8 space could be considered overkill, but with co2 and good temps there's really no such thing. Just giant buds.

i lived in
saginaw mi for five years i moved back to cali right after weed passed i voted for it to lol....ne way now im doin it up here in cali but im glad to see some straight dank in michigan itsa not to ofted that you do unless you grow it your damn self lol good growing mang

Happy new years, sorry about not posting but my internet was out for over a week. All is well and I'm going to harvest my cheese tomorrow right after I get back from court for my little possession charge. I was caught with less than a gram in april last year before I was legal but after the laws had had passed. I have a pre-trial conference with the prosecutor tomorrow and it would be pretty cool if that's as far as it goes, I'll let ya know.

Simply amazing man! If i wasn't planning a perpetual i would really look into having you help me with a scrog. I have never seen anything that looks as good as that!

ran4it2 said:

everything looks awesome man very nice setup! its crazy i fell onto your thread cause im doing something very similar.
2 1000w
2 4x4 trays
top feed hydro into hydroton filled pots

but I have a few questions tho.

You vegged for only 12 days from a 5" clone when did you introduce the screen?

How many plants you think would be good to fill my 4x8 screen?

What size trays do you have?

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I vegged for 15 days, at which point they were around 9"-12" I think. I topped only the main stem at 6" and put the screen at 13". The reason I took a few inches off when I topped the plants is because I was trying to make all the plants as symmetrical as possible and some were a little bigger than others so I used that opportunity to bring everything to the same height. I also used the MH bulbs for the first 3 or 4 days of 12/12.
The number of plants you put in mainly affects your veg time. Ideally, if you don't mind higher numbers than put a bunch in and have little to know veg. If you do it that way it's not a big deal to just take one of them out if it's too crowded, you won't even noticed a difference in the end. A lot depends on strain too.
I have 3 trays that are 36"x24" each. The 2 trays of cheese drain to the same res. and the third has it's own. They're actually just multi-purpose trays I bought at Menards for 12 bucks a piece and they work great.
Good luck with your grow man

JealousGreen said:

1000 watts in a 4x4 is great for sure as long as you keep it cool. A 600 would also be totally adequate. I've seen people use a single 1000 in an 8x8 space and have good results in the whole garden. 2000 watts in a 4x8 space could be considered overkill, but with co2 and good temps there's really no such thing. Just giant buds.

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.....as soon as i harvest these cheese plants, which is 2 thirds of the screen, I'm going to put both 1000's over the SB and VK. 2k over a 4'x2.75' area sounds kinda crazy to me, but my temps are right on, even a little on the low side, and co2 is good. Overkill....definitlely....I like it.

Sick setup Teddie!! very clean, you put some time into thinking of it and did a great job. Not really one for scrogs but shit when i see it done right like yours always a beautiful site to see. Have you ever thought about switching up your watering system to a flood/drain table? Looks like you almost already have everything setup to do it.

Hulk Nugs said:

Sick setup Teddie!! very clean, you put some time into thinking of it and did a great job. Not really one for scrogs but shit when i see it done right like yours always a beautiful site to see. Have you ever thought about switching up your watering system to a flood/drain table? Looks like you almost already have everything setup to do it.

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Hey hulk, thanks for stoppin by and for the comp. I don't really care for flood and drain. I have a couple friends who do it, and it looks like a green algae covered mess. Plus I like the idea of fresh nutes constantly flowing through the root zone when the pumps are on. If I ever grow any other way than scrog I will get an ebb and gro since you can put the buckets directly on the ground and free up some space.