Medical marijuana case goes to Michigan Supreme Court

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MYWhat?

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Timmahh, we have both dispensaries and CG's. Though the dispensary system the state has set up seems to be failing big time. You have to call setup an appointment, then when you do get in to see them you have to sign over your plants for them to grow first, then 2 months later you can start buying your meds from them. But from what I've heard from those who have tried, you can't even buy your full amount (2.5 ounces). More like a quarter at a time.

I really need to do some more reading of Other states laws, to see how they may effect us in the future.

I would like to get more involved. Cause it seems our governing elite don't understand the meaning of the will of the people !!
 
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bob harris

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Timmahh said:
you can bring a section 8) at any time in trial, and at pre trial, at the disclosure phase, or at the end infront of the jury during hearings.

What makes you think it can only be done at Pre Trial, only in front of a Judge? Ok so maybe your not a fucking puke ass pig praying on sick or ill, but your part of the LEO system or Billy Bongs Prosecution Crew. that much i can almost guaranty.

I only Altered the t to be a Capital T in my name in your quote. the rest is not changed, only asnwered. your own text is your own text. im not a mod here bob. i dont have access to change your post dumbass.
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A section 8 defense is available only if: the person arrested has a signed, Dr letter outlining not only the condition, but that medical cannabis would be of benefit. If he has that, why would he want to wait for a jury? The whole thing is dismissed at a hearing. If at the hearing..he can not provide said DR. letter...he has no section 8 protection, and there for can not introduce that failed defense to a jury.

It's really simple...grasp it..grasp it


Now..about that altered post...you say you COULD alter you name..But COULDN'T alter my post....huh? wow
 
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bob harris

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bob harris said:
nope..I'm totally correct about that..

Even timmahh gets that.

Section 4 is immunity if certified and in compliance with plant counts,weight and locked facility.
Section 8 only applies to a person That has a dr signed letter, stating that he qualifies, and would receive benefit from cannabis, BUT IS NOT A CARD HOLDER

Section 8 does NOT provide that you will not be arrested, only that you are entitled to a pre trial hearing to determine if you Dr. letter is valid. If valid..the case is dismissed.

In any situation, if you are over count and/or weight..you can be arrested....then you must prove that you were over justifiably, IE: you need lager amounts because you use Simpson oil for cancer...
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Here is my original post^^^^^
Here is YOUR un altered as you say quote

ope..I'm totally correct about that..

Even Timmahh gets that. Be respectful bob, you may get some in return eventually, my name has a Capital T on it.

Section 4 is immunity if certified and in compliance with plant counts,weight and locked facility. (locked, Enclosed, Facility, No where does it say ROOF or FULLY ENCLOSED)
Section 8 [omit this word-only] applies to a person That has a dr signed letter, stating that he qualifies, and would receive benefit from cannabis, BUT IS NOT A REGISTRANT PERIOD

Section 8 does NOT provide that you will not be arrested, only that you are entitled to [STRIKE THIS LINE - a pre trial hearing] the right to introduce a Sec
defense, at ANY TIME, DURING ANY PART, OF ANY TRIAL PART INVOLVING CANNABIS, and INFRONT OF A JURY IF THE DEFENDANT SO WISHES, to determine if you Dr. letter is valid. If valid..the case is dismissed. Or cannabis charges dismissed if their are multiple charges that do not stem from the cannabis arrest.

In any situation, if you are over count and/or weight..you can be arrested....then you must prove that you were over justifiably, IE: you need lager amounts because you use Simpson oil for cancer...Correct


How did that happen? Hmmmmmm sounds as if you lied.....
 
Timmahh

Timmahh

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i quoted your post dumb ass. that allows me to add text to your QUOTE i made, but NOT YOUR ORIGINAL POST. wow.

as shown in your post bob. I changed the small t to a Capital T in my name in your quote. I then ANSWERED YOUR QOUTE, with BIG BOLD LETTERS so you would not be confused to what i was answering to each of your mis conceptions.

like i said bobbyj, im a Mod on the 3MA, not here in RIU.
 
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bob harris

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Timmahh said:
i quoted your post dumb ass. that allows me to add text to your QUOTE i made, but NOT YOUR ORIGINAL POST. wow.

as shown in your post bob. I changed the small t to a Capital T in my name in your quote. I then ANSWERED YOUR QOUTE, with BIG BOLD LETTERS so you would not be confused to what i was answering to each of your mis conceptions.

like i said bobbyj, im a Mod on the 3MA, not here in RIU.
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Oh I get it...you just altered my quote to make it look like my words. But left it in the '"original post format" so that anyone reading it would think it is what I said....

No deceit there...
 
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bob harris

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Timmahh said:
i edited you post bob, sorry, i am a dumb ass.

as shown in your post bob. I changed the small t to a Capital T in my name in your quote. I then altered with BIG BOLD LETTERS so you would not be confused to what i was answering to each of your mis conceptions.

like i said bobbyj, im a Mod on the 3MA, not here in RIU.
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Like this?

sorry, my mistake.

but thank you for admitting your deception.
 
Timmahh

Timmahh

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bob harris said:
A section 8 defense is available only if: the person arrested has a signed, Dr letter outlining not only the condition, but that medical cannabis would be of benefit. If he has that, why would he want to wait for a jury? The whole thing is dismissed at a hearing. If at the hearing..he can not provide said DR. letter...he has no section 8 protection, and there for can not introduce that failed defense to a jury.

It's really simple...grasp it..grasp it


Now..about that altered post...you say you COULD alter you name..But COULDN'T alter my post....huh? wow
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I altered the ERRONEOUS Quote of yours bob. See that big button on the lower right of each post that says "REPLY WITH QUOTE"
try clicking it once DUMBASS.

again you are confused. A Sec 8 defense can be presented for ANY Cannabis arrest. the Defendant ONLY NEEDs to GET a Dr to go on the stand, and testify the Defendant would indeed qualify as a Medical Cannabis Patient. Ever read the part of the Petition or the Ballot or the Law that makes the statement "THE PATIENT"?

not the Qualified Patient, not the Qualified Registered Patient, it states THE PATIENT, non registered, non pre qualified if you will.
 
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bob harris

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Timmahh said:
I altered the ERRONEOUS Quote of yours bob. See that big button on the lower right of each post that says "REPLY WITH QUOTE"
try clicking it once DUMBASS.

again you are confused. A Sec 8 defense can be presented for ANY Cannabis arrest. the Defendant ONLY NEEDs to GET a Dr to go on the stand, and testify the Defendant would indeed qualify as a Medical Cannabis Patient. Ever read the part of the Petition or the Ballot or the Law that makes the statement "THE PATIENT"?

not the Qualified Patient, not the Qualified Registered Patient, it states THE PATIENT, non registered, non pre qualified if you will.
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Totally incorrect.

you are saying that anyone can simply start growing cannabis, then, if they get caught...can now seek a doctor to verify their need and benefit? Dead wrong.

And you did alter my post with the intention of deceit...anyone that reads this thread will agree
 
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Timmahh

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Yes, Read the Petition passed around summer of 08, and the BALLOT we all used when voting. Then if your brain doesn't hurt, read the entire Law top to bottom, Note everyplace the term "THE Patient" or "Patient" is noted. and then compare that to every place it says "Registered or Qualified Patient", then try again.

for someone purporting to have a 177 MENSA qualified IQ, you sure do have problems with reading and comprehension of simple logic.
 
Timmahh

Timmahh

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Please other members, Show bob how it is i ALTERED HIS post I QUOTED. Logic seemingly escapes this simpleton.
 
Timmahh

Timmahh

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bob harris said:
Totally Correct.

you are saying that anyone can simply start growing cannabis, then, if they get caught...can now seek a doctor to verify their need and benefit?
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you see bob, i didnt alter you POST, i altered the QUOTE i MADE of your post.
Capiche?
Thats Italian for



DO YOU UNDERSTAND NOW?
 
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bob harris

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http://www.aggressivecriminaldefense.com/Practice-Areas/Medical-Marijuana.html

Just so people quit listening to Timmahh's incorrect interpretation of the section 4 and 8 laws, here is an attorneys interpretation.

Please note this quote in the section 8 part..
This statement from the physician must occur between the time of the enactment of the MMMA and the defendant's marijuana offense.

that means before the arrest folks... it dosen't say after the offense...Listen to Timmahh and you are setting yourself up for arrest.
 
Timmahh

Timmahh

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You are correct bob.

  • This statement from the physician must occur between the time of the enactment of the MMMA and the defendant's marijuana offense.​


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Let me ask you, you are aware arrests are preclusionary to GUILT do you not? If you have not been Found GUILTY, then you are not GUILTY of a crime, only ACCUSED. so if you are only accused, and Not Guilty at this point, how is it you can not then get a Dr to testify of your Medical Need?
Fact is bob, that is the Intent of Section 8, as passed by the People of the State of Michigan.

An offense is only an offense once guilt is established.



Again, your position is that of Bill Schuettes. Every one is guilty but you and Billybong, even though he was such a Stoner Pothead through High School and College, he earned the nick name "Billy-Bong" or you were just illegally manufacturing and distributing Cannabis long before the 2008 Michigan Medical Marihuana Act was passed by, We the People.

It just erks your goat doesn't it billy/bobbyj that you are just a pathetic no body, that is still trying to be the Cool kid on the block.

I think you have your acronyms confused bob, I just realized that you meant you were NOT in MENSA, but you were in MAMBLA
 
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bob harris

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Timmahh said:
You are correct bob.


Let me ask you, you are aware arrests are preclusionary to GUILT do you not? If you have not been Found GUILTY, then you are not GUILTY of a crime, only ACCUSED. so if you are only accused, and Not Guilty at this point, how is it you can not then get a Dr to testify of your Medical Need?
Fact is bob, that is the Intent of Section 8, as passed by the People of the State of Michigan.

An offense is only an offense once guilt is established.



Again, your position is that of Bill Schuettes. Every one is guilty but you and Billybong, even though he was such a Stoner Pothead through High School and College, he earned the nick name "Billy-Bong" or you were just illegally manufacturing and distributing Cannabis long before the 2008 Michigan Medical Marihuana Act was passed by, We the People.

It just erks your goat doesn't it billy/bobbyj that you are just a pathetic no body, that is still trying to be the Cool kid on the block.

I think you have your acronyms confused bob, I just realized that you meant you were NOT in MENSA, but you were in MAMBLA
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Again..you show your limited knowledge of the law. Entrapment works the same way in Michigan. It can't be used as a defense in front of a jury..only in a pretrial motion to dismiss.

Your logic would make it ok to steal a car, drive around all night, put it back where you found it with a full tank of gas...and that would make it so no crime occurred.
 
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Timmahh

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  • Your logic would make it ok to steal a car, drive around all night, put it back where you found it with a full tank of gas...and that would make it so no crime occurred.​


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you just indentified Joy riding. lol good on you bob. again, you lack the Integrity to follow the LAWS of your own accord. if it isnt illegal, you would happily break the law, but call someone a criminal for doing the same act you say your innocent of just doing.


you forget this is a CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT we are discussing here in the big boys forum bob. its not just a Law.
 
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bob harris

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bob harris said:
Again..you show your limited knowledge of the law. Entrapment works the same way in Michigan. It can't be used as a defense in front of a jury..only in a pretrial motion to dismiss.

Your logic would make it ok to steal a car, drive around all night, put it back where you found it with a full tank of gas...and that would make it so no crime occurred.
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An "offense" occurs at the time of arrest. If found "not guilty" you don't get penalized.

Doesn't matter... the official ruling will be released soon...just hope no one gets arrested in the mean time following you advice.
 
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