Medical-2000W--sealed room-CO2-Ebb & Flo-PK,Mango,Papaya, Orange Crush Deisel

theloadeddragon

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crowding isn't the only reason for stretching. But my guess it is the most likely cause of RDRFN420's, as I have watched his set up and methods developing over a long period of time. It could be a reason for yours stretching, I honestly couldn't tell you. Most strains also stretch a little when reaching a point in maturation that they are capable of flowering, or propagating anyways, you won't see this with clones, only with seedlings. ;). I mean really.... there are so many things that play into it, like moonlight for example, the color of the light spectrum that is most prominent during the day, or lights on, distance from light to plant etc. Genetics have a lot to do with it as well, as far as how exactly the cells are arranged, and how they work together to transport the auxin signals.

Im glad you have learned from the link quickrip. I learned from there and many other places about auxin storage, composition, and movement as well. I hope you understand what I mean when I say..... The best advice I could give you or anyone is: "It all always depends, and it is all always up to you." The information is already out there for the most part, and I love helping people find it, as well as love people helping me find it or understand it any better than I already do.

Hopefully removing your males was the solution for that issue for you. You soon shall know ;)
 

quickrip

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Your a good man Loaded Dragon +rep. I'm sure youve got a lot of grows you're watchin currently but if you've ever got the time Id love for you to check out my grow sometime. thxs again for the great link.
 

#1Raiderfan420

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This is the second time writing this, I am having computer issues. So I raised the screen on the mango/papaya tray about 10" and thinned out a lot. The stretch seems to finally be slowing thank god. I am beat so I am going to have to condense my oroginal update. I will be removing the bloom products from my line up. They are organic and I just added the phat a few days ago and already have slime in my reserviors, so I get to drain them again and clean them out. :( The buds are starting to develop. I transfered some clones today to 4: rockwool cubes and worked on my veg room, cleaning trays, pumps and setting up timers etc. I aslo worked on the outdoor girls, thinning out the lower shit and fed. I thinned out a lot more of the mango/papaya tray and seem to getting a decent canopy. It does look funny though with the 3+ foot stems. The stretch really got aout of control for a minute. Anyway, I am beat so I am gonna crash, I will try to give a better update soon.

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bender420

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This is the second time writing this, I am having computer issues. So I raised the screen on the mango/papaya tray about 10" and thinned out a lot. The stretch seems to finally be slowing thank god. I am beat so I am going to have to condense my oroginal update. I will be removing the bloom products from my line up. They are organic and I just added the phat a few days ago and already have slime in my reserviors, so I get to drain them again and clean them out. :( The buds are starting to develop. I transfered some clones today to 4: rockwool cubes and worked on my veg room, cleaning trays, pumps and setting up timers etc. I aslo worked on the outdoor girls, thinning out the lower shit and fed. I thinned out a lot more of the mango/papaya tray and seem to getting a decent canopy. It does look funny though with the 3+ foot stems. The stretch really got aout of control for a minute. Anyway, I am beat so I am gonna crash, I will try to give a better update soon.

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Great update bro. Your plants are growing very vigorously. The leaves are huge, all the stems even at the top are very thick.

You have been working hard man, get a good night sleep and get back to work tomorrow.

Best, B
 

#1Raiderfan420

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Great update bro. Your plants are growing very vigorously. The leaves are huge, all the stems even at the top are very thick.

You have been working hard man, get a good night sleep and get back to work tomorrow.

Best, B
Thanks man, yea the stems look stong and healthy. By raising the screen on the one table I might get away with some zip ties instead of bamboo. They are very vigorious man, there are so many new leaves every day. I am just glad they stopped growing 4 to 6" a day in height. That stretch was really out of control. lol It has to be the CO2. I went in during lights off to do some work in the reserviors yesterday and noticed my CO2 monitor was reading 2100ppms and usually is at 600 during lights off, so anyway I had to take the monitor outside and re- calibrate it, not sure why that shit happened. Anyway, sorry starting to ramble. I appreciate the kind words man, I am so stoked for you and your amazing ladies that look like they were cought in a blizzard


your plants are huge!!!! if your root balls are big enough you should get some huge buds raider!!
It's funny that you say that Chronic, I have a pk in the back that didin't reach the screen and only has one main stem left. So I was going to take it out of the tray and when I went to pick it up the roots had grown so much that I moved to other pots next to it. Basicallly the rockwool is saturated with roots now. So I left that one in there and it will have minimal light, so it will be interesting to see how dense the bud gets without much light.

Looking beautiful rdrfan, what day are they on?
Thank you BR, I think today is day 13 so the pics were day 12..something like that.
 

#1Raiderfan420

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Yes the Mango and Papaya is over 4' the tallest are 53 inches. The ocd are 3 ft tall and the pk range from 2'-3'. I am excited about the ocd too, the stcks are huge and the palnts are very vigorous. I have decided that next run will be a tray of pk and tray of ocd.
 
raider thats a great set up ! I like the way its all compact with easy access,im intrested in how the Mango turns out, i grew a mango last year and got nearly 3.5 oz from one plant. Its one of my favourite smokes. Good luck and respect from england. peace.
 

bender420

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Thanks man, yea the stems look stong and healthy. By raising the screen on the one table I might get away with some zip ties instead of bamboo. They are very vigorious man, there are so many new leaves every day. I am just glad they stopped growing 4 to 6" a day in height. That stretch was really out of control. lol It has to be the CO2. I went in during lights off to do some work in the reserviors yesterday and noticed my CO2 monitor was reading 2100ppms and usually is at 600 during lights off, so anyway I had to take the monitor outside and re- calibrate it, not sure why that shit happened. Anyway, sorry starting to ramble. I appreciate the kind words man, I am so stoked for you and your amazing ladies that look like they were cought in a blizzard

Hey bro, thanks for the kind words. Good call on raising the screen, all the poking should be avoided as much as possible.

Lucky you caught the CO2 being on at night, keep an eye on it from now on.

You probably in the optimal range of light, nutes, water, the only thing missing from the equation was the CO2. Once you put that it, the ladies just toooooook off.
 

#1Raiderfan420

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raider thats a great set up ! I like the way its all compact with easy access,im intrested in how the Mango turns out, i grew a mango last year and got nearly 3.5 oz from one plant. Its one of my favourite smokes. Good luck and respect from england. peace.
Thank you, I appreciate the compliments. The mango is a great strain. I got just about the same yield as you from it the last 2 runs. I really enjoy the heavy couch lock high I get from of too.
Hey bro, thanks for the kind words. Good call on raising the screen, all the poking should be avoided as much as possible.

Lucky you caught the CO2 being on at night, keep an eye on it from now on.

You probably in the optimal range of light, nutes, water, the only thing missing from the equation was the CO2. Once you put that it, the ladies just toooooook off.
thanks man. The co2 wasn't on during the lights out, the monitor was just geaked for some reason. I just had to take it out and re-calibrated it. I check it every day so I think I caught it right away.
oh and what do you mean poking? Sorry I can't figure out what you mean. LOL
 

#1Raiderfan420

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Well, nothing crazy to report thankfully. The stretch seems to have winded down and now the buds are starting to form. :mrgreen: The ph in the reserviors has been drifting up, so I have to bring it back to 5.8 evry other day. Other than that everything seem sto be moving along fine. I am going to continue to top off the res until the end of week three( next week). That means next weekend I will have some work, taking out the reserviors and cleaning them. I will start the budxl next week so I want to have a fresh reservior of water. I picked up a bad ass air pump today and added two large air stones to each res. That was the one thing I was missing. I did raise the lights in a few inches, but theere are buds within 6" of the lights that seem to be doing great. I have to attribute the tolerance to the CO2 and maybe the light spreaders have a bit to do with it as well.
The babies are doing good, but again the rockwool seems to raise the ph, so I have to keep an eye on the levels.
Here are some pics:
The PK
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The OCD
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The mango and papaya
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This is the tray of ocd and pk-the ocd is the taller one's on the left
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bender420

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Thank you, I appreciate the compliments. The mango is a great strain. I got just about the same yield as you from it the last 2 runs. I really enjoy the heavy couch lock high I get from of too.

thanks man. The co2 wasn't on during the lights out, the monitor was just geaked for some reason. I just had to take it out and re-calibrated it. I check it every day so I think I caught it right away.
oh and what do you mean poking? Sorry I can't figure out what you mean. LOL
ohh ok, I thoughts the CO2 was on at lights out.
I meant if you had to poke some bamboo sticks to support some colas, it would damage the roots when you are poking the stick. Sorry bro I wasn't clear.

Did you read jberry and my discussion in my thread, apparently the NPK on the H&G are wrong, that is according to someone at H&G. So my comments about the ratio are worthless just like the false ratios on the bottle.
 

#1Raiderfan420

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We did flip on the exact same day bro. Shit is lookin great.
Sweet man, it is always fun to be on the same schedule as a buddy. Thanks!:joint:

ohh ok, I thoughts the CO2 was on at lights out.
I meant if you had to poke some bamboo sticks to support some colas, it would damage the roots when you are poking the stick. Sorry bro I wasn't clear.

Did you read jberry and my discussion in my thread, apparently the NPK on the H&G are wrong, that is according to someone at H&G. So my comments about the ratio are worthless just like the false ratios on the bottle.
Yea, my bad. I guess I didn't explain that very well. The CO2 in the room during lights out has been settling to between 4-600ppm. It wasn't actually that high, my meter was reading wrong. I am not sure why, but there is a re-calibration method if the meter is off. I hope it doesn't happen again.
I did read that about the h&g, I also saw the disclaimer by the poster that the rep didin't seem to know much. I would hope that the labels aren't completley wrong, but hey you never know. I also was told by the hydro shop owner friend of mine that she didn't use the top booster. I usually only run it for about 5 days, but that could explain why I end up with some burnt tips around week 6. Hmm, somthing to watch for anyway. Thanks for the tip on the bamboo. I get it now :eyesmoke:. I usually try and put them in at the edge of the pot, so I don;t damage the roots more than I have to. I am hoping I can get by without them though.
 

#1Raiderfan420

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So I thought I would throw up an update on my 5 outdoor plants. They seem to be doing well now. The mango, chemD, and kimo blackberry all started to flower for minute with the weather issues. So, it is good to see that they are back on track. The Blue Dream defintaley is at home outside. I have pruned most of the bottom branches and thinned out the middle of all of them. Right now I am just feeding with Maxsea evrey other watering.



The Ladies
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Mango
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Blue Dream
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Ed's Super Bud
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Chem D
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Kimo x Blackberry Dynamite
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mr.smileyface

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So I thought I would throw up an update on my 5 outdoor plants. They seem to be doing well now. The mango, chemD, and kimo blackberry all started to flower for minute with the weather issues. So, it is good to see that they are back on track. The Blue Dream defintaley is at home outside. I have pruned most of the bottom branches and thinned out the middle of all of them. Right now I am just feeding with Maxsea evrey other watering.



The Ladies
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Mango
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Blue Dream
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Ed's Super Bud
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Chem D
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Kimo x Blackberry Dynamite
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Those are gonna be some trees. Aparently Mango is An outdoor plant. Because of its fast growth and height. Im glad your doing one this year because i am not. And i wanted to see how it would do. Your in cali tho and im in BC. Now the only problem is the rain up here and earlyer frost. Purple Kush cannot handle the stress up here. We grow alot of timewarp and Ak.
What medium are you using for that?
 
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