mdma testing

ndangerspecimen101

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Regent test kits is the first step as preventative measure, and the cheapest. ;)

If you want to bio-essay powders or pressed pills you can send them for GCMS testing at Ecstasy Data which is a private organization run through Erowid.
 

canndo

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The test however is qualitative and not quantitative. so far as I know, the tests will not differenciate between MDA and MDMA. You are better off getting a gs-ms.
 

MrEDuck

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The test however is qualitative and not quantitative. so far as I know, the tests will not differenciate between MDA and MDMA. You are better off getting a gs-ms.
It gives you a good idea of potency based on how fast the reaction goes. For most of us getting a GC/MS test done involves spending $150. It is the best test but $150 + a sample is a lot.
 

MrEDuck

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If they're using GC/MS they're testing for everything. Test kits only tell you if something is there or not.
 

canndo

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It gives you a good idea of potency based on how fast the reaction goes. For most of us getting a GC/MS test done involves spending $150. It is the best test but $150 + a sample is a lot.


There are some of us who now have NO tolerance to ampetamines. My doctor has told me that I would be unwise to consume even small amounts of caffine (makes it pretty anoying to select a nice soft drink), let alone anything stronger. MDMA has a minor effect upon the heart. I have been considering getting the suit of reagents for some time now for that very reason. Have you used them?
 

MrEDuck

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I've used marquis reagent extensively. For anything more I've been fortunate enough to have access to a gc/ms. With your concern I'd get a sample gc'd. And only get Molly. Pills are too likely to be adulterated. You can clean Molly by recrystallizing it. But get it gc'd again to make sure there's no (meth)amphetamine present.
 

ndangerspecimen101

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The test however is qualitative and not quantitative. so far as I know, the tests will not differenciate between MDA and MDMA. You are better off getting a gs-ms.
Right. Qualitative.

Unless you're high roller and want to know the specific elements of your product. A GCMS is totally unnecessary. Thin Layer Chromatography is a much more suitable approach and is easier to access.
 

ndangerspecimen101

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There are some of us who now have NO tolerance to ampetamines. My doctor has told me that I would be unwise to consume even small amounts of caffine (makes it pretty anoying to select a nice soft drink), let alone anything stronger. MDMA has a minor effect upon the heart. I have been considering getting the suit of reagents for some time now for that very reason. Have you used them?
Used regent test kits with remarkable success.

Even test LSD-25 with a Marquis.
 

MrEDuck

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Used regent test kits with remarkable success.

Even test LSD-25 with a Marquis.
I agree generally that kits are good enough, but in Canndo's case I think a GC/MS confirming something is MDMA and inactives is the only way to make sure there's no nasties around.
 

ndangerspecimen101

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Yes.

GC/MS is a very invasive test. It won't hinder any chemical abnormalities. As he said, he's very sensitive to caffeine or stimulants for that matter. Regent's won't test for micro-scale quantities of amphetamines. Most of the time the color will appear black almost instantaneously before any browning is noticed.
 

canndo

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I agree generally that kits are good enough, but in Canndo's case I think a GC/MS confirming something is MDMA and inactives is the only way to make sure there's no nasties around.
If you have ever experienced atral defib, you would absolutely agree with me - imagine your heart pumping several hundred beats per minute and no pulse to speak of.
 

ndangerspecimen101

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I comprehend.

Personally, I'm sensitive to stimulants as well. I despise meth bombs. Not a fan of coffee or Starbucks for that matter.

But, this just points out how the structure of an amphetamine or a methylated version of it can be turned it a whole different drug.. with a different course of action.
 

ndangerspecimen101

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If one would like to construct there own Marquis Regent. It wouldn't be too hard.

One would just have to apply a heavy ratio of Sulfuric Acid to a small ratio of Formaldehyde. H2SO4 is quite hard to come by but there is certainly ways to synthesize it from other resources.

Then, one would't have to buy a regent ever again. ;)

Perhaps, if they were savvy enough make there own test regent company. Ndangerspecimen, stop giving yourself ideas! :lol:
 

ndangerspecimen101

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You want to talk MDMA testing. Let's pull out the regents and get to work! :D



Here is whole fleet of test kits. But, the Marquis is the main one who surveys and critiques chemicals.



It's wise to apply a 10mg sample to evenly ration the overall consistency of the test sample.



Marquis working its action. The MDMA and Sulfuric Acid contain in the marquis regent is fizzing due to high concentrations of MDMA.


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The reaction settling down (2 minutes later). Solid black to purple. NO trace of any other coloring. SWIM even let the regent solution drip down over the plate to uncover any other color reactants. Nothing to be found!

I hope this explains what a Marquis Regent Test Kit is capable of doing.

All test conducted by no other then, SWIM! :lol:
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