Massachusetts DWC 4 DAYS until FLOWERING photos inclu; NUTES HELP PLEASE

MaloMAL

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ya bro you mix is off

first its very low all around and theres not enough magnesium

I think you might have magnesium def based on what you told me your mixing

I think youd have btter luck mixing it the way I proposed

mix it the same way but if you need a lower ppm add slightly more water
for a higher ppm slightly more water

but I wouldn't raise the ppm above what I recommended unless your showing def and your reservoir samples test tell you (ph rise and ppm fall)

just use the products I listed and no more...except the thrive alive red you can add it in but don't go crazy just add half or even 1/4 what they say
What's your final recipe and your final advice in sequence. Please i want your advice but it's everywhere right now. Im going g into flowering Monday and I do think understand not one thing going your asking me to do. The information is everywhere and not fully written. Again. Thank you i want your help. May you please list the ingredients I'm using for flowering, when do I add them, do I change my res, do I increase ppm . I'm sorry man you confused me so much
 

MaloMAL

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I recommend you change your res out sooner than later and mix the full strength veg formula at about 800 to 900ppm

switch to the bloom full strength formula 3 weeks into 12/12
Okay so on week 3 I'll wipe out the old nutrients clean the buckets, rinse the roots, mix your suggested recipe at full strength.... so your suggesting I do a result change now with FULL strength veg nutes until week 3 flowering ?
 

im4satori

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everything you need is in post #32 & #33

empty your reservoir asap
mix the veg nutes the way I said in post 32 (no more, no less)

check your ph and check your ppm from your reservoir daily...write it down
per post #33
if the ph goes up and the ppm went down... your good
if the ph stays flat or goes down and your ppm goes up... your solution is to strong and you need to dilute the mix (with water) slightly to lower the ppm until you get a slow rise in your ph over a few days

on the other hand
if the ph spikes fast over night and the ppm is going down
mix the next batch of solution the same but slightly stronger by using slightly less water in the reservoir

your always going to mix it the same every time for either "veg" or "flower"

for example;
if I had a ten gallon reservoir

I would fill it 8 gallons full.... add nutrients (per the provided formula) for 8 gallons

watch the ph and ppm over a few days

if I need to lower the ppm I can add more water
if I need to raise the ppm on the next reservoir change I will add 8 gallons water and 9 gallons of the recipe and then add water to dilute it to what ever ppm im aiming for that is slightly higher than the last reservoir
 

im4satori

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I cant tell you exactly how much "ppm" your plants need from week to week
it depends on your strain and your environment specifically humidity and amount of light

but your reservoir samples and test will

what I can tell you is how to mix your nutes in ratios that balance all of the elements to help prevent the potential for nutrient problems or imbalances

it puts in within the smaller margin of error that still produces good results
 

im4satori

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you don't need to be mixing different amounts of this or that from week to week

just mix the veg formula I gave you for veg and the bloom formula for flower

give (when hungry) sprouts and rooted clones 1/2 strength bloom formula to start for the first 2 weeks and then mix the veg formula ratio at the appropriate ppm based on the rise or fall in your reservoir
 

MaloMAL

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you don't need to be mixing different amounts of this or that from week to week

just mix the veg formula I gave you for veg and the bloom formula for flower

give (when hungry) sprouts and rooted clones 1/2 strength bloom formula to start for the first 2 weeks and then mix the veg formula ratio at the appropriate ppm based on the rise or fall in your reservoir
Okay I raise my ppm too 800 the plants appear to be fine. I cleared out the old res. Rinsed the roots using pH adjusted tub water. I Rinsed and cleaned the bucket and added the recipe for the VEG stage. In 3 weeks I will do the same thing but use the BLOOM recipe. What should I have e my ppm at during bloom. AGAIN, I did all of what you said an my ppm is exactly 804. I used fresh everything. Nutes water and cleaned the buckets. I used tarantula and carboload on top of what you said. The plants seem to be fine. I guess time will tell. I finish at 2:05 pm exact. Soo I'm assuming if I screwed up I'd have signs by now.... Ph was adjusted to 5.8 after adding technaflora BOOST. Current pH @5.8
 

MaloMAL

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you don't need to be mixing different amounts of this or that from week to week

just mix the veg formula I gave you for veg and the bloom formula for flower

give (when hungry) sprouts and rooted clones 1/2 strength bloom formula to start for the first 2 weeks and then mix the veg formula ratio at the appropriate ppm based on the rise or fall in your reservoir
BTW my roots went yellow is that due to nutrient stain. Shit always worries me man. They go from pure fluffy white to yellow !!! :(
 

im4satori

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id wouldn't use the carbo load next time

its fine for now but you don't need it

im not familiar with what tarantula is
what are the three npk numbers? whats it for is it for roots or something?
 
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im4satori

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What should I have e my ppm at during bloom. AGAIN, @5.8
the mix I provided for bloom should yield about the same ppm as the veg mix

mix it the way I suggested at full strength (roughly 800ppm) oly raise it if your reservior PH is spiking fast over night and your ppm is dropping

today you fixed your reservoir....
if the ph jumps from 5.8 to 6.5 over night and the ppm drops down from 800 increase ppm
if the ph rises slowly and the ppm drops slowly your good (for example 5.8 to 6.2 over 3 days)
if the ph doesn't rise and ppm don't drop over 3 days your feeding too much lower the ppm
 

MaloMAL

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id wouldn't use the carbo load next time

its fine for now but you don't need it

im not familiar with what tarantula is
what are the three npk numbers? whats it for is it for roots or something?
Ok awesome. CarboLOAD is used alongside the Tarantula it is an advanced nutrients beneficial. The CarboLOAD adds energy an increased the root colonies that tarantula induces to protect the roots from bacteria and also to help break down nutrients better....
 

MaloMAL

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the mix I provided for bloom should yield about the same ppm as the veg mix

mix it the way I suggested at full strength (roughly 800ppm) oly raise it if your reservior PH is spiking fast over night and your ppm is dropping

today you fixed your reservoir....
if the ph jumps from 5.8 to 6.5 over night and the ppm drops down from 800 increase ppm
if the ph rises slowly and the ppm drops slowly your good (for example 5.8 to 6.2 over 3 days)
if the ph doesn't rise and ppm don't drop over 3 days your feeding too much lower the ppm
Increasing ppm would refer to adding more of your suggested recipe. How much should i divide the dosages by to increase the ppm ¿
 

im4satori

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ok
if your trying to feed bennies maybe its fine

I don't do much in the way of bennies so im not the guy to say

do bennies work well in hydroton? im not sure

but either way your on the right track
 

im4satori

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Increasing ppm would refer to adding more of your suggested recipe. How much should i divide the dosages by to increase the ppm ¿
not being sarcastic, or an ass,,

slow down just a little

try and take in the info

read thru it all again so you understand

your asking me the same questions over and over that ive already answered my friend

to mix a higher ppm... just mix it the same way you did today adding the same amounts you did but use less water and the ppm will be higher
 

MaloMAL

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not being sarcastic, or an ass,,

slow down just a little

try and take in the info

read thru it all again so you understand

your asking me the same questions over and over that ive already answered my friend

to mix a higher ppm... just mix it the same way you did today adding the same amounts you did but use less water and the ppm will be higher
I am reading it sorry. I was just asking considering that adding the same amount would increase the ppm to another 800. Or would it not. Okay if I drive too 500ppm and add the exact recommended amount I would be up 1300 ppm right ¿ I mean I'm trying to fully understand you.
 

im4satori

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what size is your reservoir?

how many gallons do you mix at a time?

if I know this info I can explain better
 
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