Mass Medical Strains
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Here's my hot take: I don't approve of what Mass Medical has done, but I just wouldn't buy his seeds, and for me it ends there. Taking and renaming cuts isn't cool but everything these days is hype marketing, it's really on the customer to sort it out treat it with caution, like EVERY OTHER INDUSTRY. Also, I seriously doubt the genetics are trash, I just saw a post the other day hyping up Moby Grape as the best of the new Pug stuff. I'm sure they aren't all winners but come on, there is probably a reason that Gromer wanted to breed with Putang, if it was shit he wouldn't have touched it.
In reality, I think the community has a lot of toxicity, which makes me appreciate the real ones that much more, and I don't sweat the posers. You can see it with the ever divisive Gromer IMO. Like, yeah the dude is grumpy, but people get SO butthurt about it on Insta, and then he gets people sending him death threats, so to be honest, I get why the guy is just sick of it, and why he is so antagonistic. The whole world of legal cannabis is full of dudes just trashing eachother (your glass is shit, your seeds are shit, your marketing is shit, your quartz insert is shit, your attitude is shit). I messaged Gromer once, and he was rude to me, so I said "lol my bad" and he instantly changed his tone and was kind. It's almost like you get what you give in this life... Thug pug dropped $80 packs of fire for years, you could've made a small fortune off him if you wanted to. Hate the game, not the player.
Even worse, this hater bullshit is constant on instagram, and it reminds me of rap beefs, where little growers try to get notoriety by trashing the competition (since, you know, you can't actually smell or smoke what they are slinging unless you pay for it, wait three months, and know what you're doing).
The worst one I saw recently was where a grower who I've followed and respect started trashing another grower just for using the same strain name and the same logo for his pack (it was Terp Bomb, and the logo was a little bomb with eyes from Mario, and let's be real, it was probably unintentional). It's such a generic name, and such a generic image, the whole idea that he'd be up in arms over it is crazy to me, and then he was posting pictures of the guy, calling him a pedophile because of how he looked, saying IT WAS MY STRAIN. Talk about an ego trip, oof... he deleted the post a day later because I'm sure he realized it was showing people who he really was. Hasn't said a word about it since. I saw his true colors though, and def won't support him anymore...
So many growers have put out so many generic genetics with names like CAKE POP or REESEZ or CINNA CRUNCH that it's asinine to me that anyone thinks they own anything more than delusion. I guess that's what happens when you're trying to sell people a $200 pack of seeds that is supposedly going to taste like something from The Cheesecake Factory. If it's certified fire and rappers are namedropping it then yeah, congrats, you created a strain, otherwise stay humble and more importantly stay in your lane lol.
Not trying to hate on anyone here, and I get where you guys are coming from, but come on, saying that people should jump him and break his fingers? That's not right.
In reality, I think the community has a lot of toxicity, which makes me appreciate the real ones that much more, and I don't sweat the posers. You can see it with the ever divisive Gromer IMO. Like, yeah the dude is grumpy, but people get SO butthurt about it on Insta, and then he gets people sending him death threats, so to be honest, I get why the guy is just sick of it, and why he is so antagonistic. The whole world of legal cannabis is full of dudes just trashing eachother (your glass is shit, your seeds are shit, your marketing is shit, your quartz insert is shit, your attitude is shit). I messaged Gromer once, and he was rude to me, so I said "lol my bad" and he instantly changed his tone and was kind. It's almost like you get what you give in this life... Thug pug dropped $80 packs of fire for years, you could've made a small fortune off him if you wanted to. Hate the game, not the player.
Even worse, this hater bullshit is constant on instagram, and it reminds me of rap beefs, where little growers try to get notoriety by trashing the competition (since, you know, you can't actually smell or smoke what they are slinging unless you pay for it, wait three months, and know what you're doing).
The worst one I saw recently was where a grower who I've followed and respect started trashing another grower just for using the same strain name and the same logo for his pack (it was Terp Bomb, and the logo was a little bomb with eyes from Mario, and let's be real, it was probably unintentional). It's such a generic name, and such a generic image, the whole idea that he'd be up in arms over it is crazy to me, and then he was posting pictures of the guy, calling him a pedophile because of how he looked, saying IT WAS MY STRAIN. Talk about an ego trip, oof... he deleted the post a day later because I'm sure he realized it was showing people who he really was. Hasn't said a word about it since. I saw his true colors though, and def won't support him anymore...
So many growers have put out so many generic genetics with names like CAKE POP or REESEZ or CINNA CRUNCH that it's asinine to me that anyone thinks they own anything more than delusion. I guess that's what happens when you're trying to sell people a $200 pack of seeds that is supposedly going to taste like something from The Cheesecake Factory. If it's certified fire and rappers are namedropping it then yeah, congrats, you created a strain, otherwise stay humble and more importantly stay in your lane lol.
Not trying to hate on anyone here, and I get where you guys are coming from, but come on, saying that people should jump him and break his fingers? That's not right.
Celticjack
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well said !
Bpeace
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Ok, there are a million breeders, don't have time to research them for a year (running a garden with a disability) and all the big guys seem to want ridiculous $200 a pack prices. I was recommended MMS from a well known reputable seedbank, grew it and really liked most of them.I really am keeping my putang keeper forever good plant good meds for me. So, what are we in the masses supposed to do? Can anyone just give me a couple breeders to check out? I will give one, Annunaki genetics. He is awesome, tests all his gear and maybe be one of the nicest human beings out there. He sent me flower seeds from his house because we were talking about the things we like to grow. Obviously, those are the people I would like to support. So somebody help me out cause I feel I have been bamboozled, hoodwinked, led astray, run amuck, and flat out deceived!
Peace
Peace
Rivendell
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If you haven't already, check out the Useful Seeds thread, you would be hard pressed to find a more down to earth and all around decent human being. He puts out some interesting stuff that's not all hype this crossed with hype that and at a very respectable price as well.
Bpeace
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Thanks man!
Coalcat
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Second this. And Bodhi of course.
Bpeace
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Of course there is a few ripping off his name because of name recognition, which if I remember correctly is who I was able to find with Google. Is Green Bodhi over at well grown seeds the real Bodhi?
idlewilder
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Different Bodhi but he has some good stuff
Bpeace
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Where do I find the "Real Bodhi"? See how confusing this can get...lol
meangreengrowinmachine
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Great lakes genetics carries bodhi and green bodhi.
meangreengrowinmachine
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Also from what I hear green bodhi and bodhi know each other and bodhi supports the use of his name and such. They even have some collabs over at glg.
HydroOrganicFla
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Buying from ethical breeders is really important to me personally. There's a lot I could say on the matter but that sums it up.
I highly recommend Lucky Dog & Dominion Seed Co.
Lots of different strains, it's all tested and the breeders (Skunk VA and Duke Diamond) work with some great cuts and are humble as can be. They let the weed do the talking, as one should in my opinion.
Legit breeders? Yes.
Been doing this since before it was legal? Yes.
Cuts real and ethically sourced? Yes.
Most importantly, the weed grows well, is stable and gets you high as shit.
idlewilder
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GLG, JBC, Headie’s, GLO off the top of my head
This. He's been hanging with the guys at Gage Green Group. If he doesn't directly join them, he'll adopt their business model of "boutique" seeds that come in price tiers from like $200 - $1000 a pack.
Celticjack
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You’re exactly right , I’ve followed MMS for a long time and he’s mentioned that . Gage green gear is way over priced gear that doesn’t get me any higher than anyone else’s gear. You can’t beat bodhi’s gear especially when it’s on sale , like now at GLG
Actually Im going to keep this closed it looks like there is drama, and tbh Rollitup doesnt really get involved in the ins and outs of that crap but were not going to tag someone repeatidly and than ask them to defend themselves to a crowd of clearly angry people who dont give a shit.
While were on the subject people are trying to doxx this guy and that isnt cool.
While were on the subject people are trying to doxx this guy and that isnt cool.
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