Marshydro Led grow...

Jason9922 said:

That’s awesome dude. Yeah I started out running 5 gallon DWC buckets instead of soil because it's just way easier for me to just be able to send the old used medium down the drain. If I had to re-use soil I would have had to buy a lot figuring it's been 5-6 years. I'm using the same DWC buckets I started with. I just modeled them and built them identical to the spider ones off eBay. I just built one extra bucket so I'm able to rotate all of them every so often and give them a good cleaning. Check them out man I've seen people put three plants in one bucket. You could fit 4 fat girls in that tent and once you got your nutrients dialed in you can literally watch them grow! Loll and if you’re going to grow auto's, and ever need help, ask a member in here named Loki. He grows plants as fast as and bigger than mine in soil. He advertises a help link for autos all the time to. I don't use them because I don't have access to a steady seed supply or I might.

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Awesome, thanks for the heads up! Iv'e been doing it for a year, I'm getting my 4th grow under my belt ending in about a month by my calculations, lol. I have two autos in soil and one in DWC right now because I wanted to see the differences. So far, my DWC plant is bigger than both soil plants and it is 10 days behind them both. Also, the soil plants are forming flowers but the DWC is still in veg stage, only a few pistils here and there. I am a hydro believer now and forever more! So I plan to run both tents doing 4 big hydro plants in the bigger tent and either 1 or two in the smaller tent. I love growing more than I do smoking, it's entrancing.

MJA

I totally agree with you. I guess in person nobody's plants vie seen in soil grow faster than mine in water but it’s not like I want to call someone a liar in here ya know? I would suggest (just a suggestion) is to grow 4 large DWC plants in one tent with your LED and then leaving the other tent for clones with a fluorescent light. That's what I basically do because the fluorescent grows at so much slower a pace your clones, if you super crop and LST them into multiple cola plants, will only need a couple weeks of veg, clip new clones, move them over to the good light, and repeat! Loll

I’ve had the same strain growing indoors working on its 15th cycle! You said how you like growing more than smoking now? I only smoke weed twice a cycle. That's to test my colas after they have cured! I can't smoke all the time, It makes me want to sleep and eat and be lazy. Even sativa strains make me feel hung-over. Planning on trying some super high CBD strains eventually to make some edibles. I was told those strains with mid 10 % THC in them eaten make you feel a totally different high. But I totally get it dude, it's like raising mini children! loll

I threw a half dozen 2 footers outdoors this past summer and still haven’t been able to bring myself to cutting them down because they look so frosty but aren't showing any amber trichomes yet like when the indoor finished. I've become weirdly attached to this outdoor one. lol The plants are all super green still and I haven't gave them nutrients in 3 weeks and it's mid October! The woods around them are brown and dying (I'm in Michigan, basically lower Canada)

Plus its weird how much leafier they are. Think that's from so much less light they are growing all those extra solar panels looking for more light. Think I might pull them tonight though because after tonight we have maybe a week before freezing temps and it’s supposed to rain all week starti9ng this morning. Think I’m going to pull them before all that rain gets them moldy and I really freak out! Lol

End of week 6...starting to fatten up some and I think I have a minimum 3 weeks to go... ive decided im going to test flush vs no flush as I have 2 plants the same breed in separate tubs so when its time ill flush one and not the other

p.s. i am still totally happy with Marshydro led

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Hey all! Just joined the led crew. Just brought a marshydro 900w off ebay for £250. Already had a grow going 2 blueberry gum, 4 weeks into flower just switched to the led won't be able to judge fully intill my next grow I'll be doing 5 auto pounders..I'll post picks when I start the new batch in a couple of weeks or so. Fingers crossed I haven't wasted my money :-/

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Man you guys, I can't stop thinking about getting one of those mars LED lights ever since I spoke to one of their manufacture tech's off eBay and all the people on here who talk so good about them. You got a 900 watt LED (and a quality one at that) for only $250? Man the guy I spoke with answered every question I had about their lights with great answers and I was trying to poke flaws in their product, dude was super cool even saying how after the one year warranty was up they would continue to send replacement LED's to replace burnt out ones up to the three year mark. That's how confident he was in their quality control. I read all the time on these LED light ads that say don't buy fake cheap imitation Chinese lights and their lights are $1,200.

Yeah their lights might be nice, but are they $950 nicer than the mars line? Which is a Chinese manufacturer using Taiwanese parts that has a massive US based warehouse where they store stock. I repair all electronics, mainly laptops, desktops, tablets, phones and I can tell you that the very best electronics even American brand ones use Taiwanese components just like the mars lights. I think that there are probably so many junk LED lights all over eBay that when a quality one comes out and is price at a reasonable price it makes people think twice. I don't know for sure because I have no experience personally with using LED lights yet, but I know everything I buy I research thoroughly, and I know for a fact that when you speak to someone who works at the factory with as much confidence as the guy I spoke with, they are making some quality stuff!. I'm planning on ordering that same 900 watt light in a couple weeks so please keep posting all the good and the bad you guys experience with them because I'm keeping track!

Jason9922 said:

Man you guys, I can't stop thinking about getting one of those mars LED lights ever since I spoke to one of their manufacture tech's off eBay and all the people on here who talk so good about them. You got a 900 watt LED (and a quality one at that) for only $250? Man the guy I spoke with answered every question I had about their lights with great answers and I was trying to poke flaws in their product, dude was super cool even saying how after the one year warranty was up they would continue to send replacement LED's to replace burnt out ones up to the three year mark. That's how confident he was in their quality control. I read all the time on these LED light ads that say don't buy fake cheap imitation Chinese lights and their lights are $1,200.

Yeah their lights might be nice, but are they $950 nicer than the mars line? Which is a Chinese manufacturer using Taiwanese parts that has a massive US based warehouse where they store stock. I repair all electronics, mainly laptops, desktops, tablets, phones and I can tell you that the very best electronics even American brand ones use Taiwanese components just like the mars lights. I think that there are probably so many junk LED lights all over eBay that when a quality one comes out and is price at a reasonable price it makes people think twice. I don't know for sure because I have no experience personally with using LED lights yet, but I know everything I buy I research thoroughly, and I know for a fact that when you speak to someone who works at the factory with as much confidence as the guy I spoke with, they are making some quality stuff!. I'm planning on ordering that same 900 watt light in a couple weeks so please keep posting all the good and the bad you guys experience with them because I'm keeping track!

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Easy mate, won't know how good this marshydro light is till I complete a full grow with it, I'm more of a buy now ask questions later kinda guy lol so your post makes me feel better about my impulse buy!!! all I know so far is, it's a solid build don't feel cheap at all, it's really bright after looking into the tent just for a few seconds and I'm seeing purple spots! It came within 3 days of ordering (I'm from England btw Royal Mail FTW!!) only thing was it wasn't discret said blatantly on the side of the box led 900w light lol! I'll defo keep you up dated...one thing I've had to deal with is the heat loss I've brought a tube heater and have it running on a timer and I think watering the lady's is gonna be completely different as less water will evaporate... It's gonna take some getting used to but I'm sure it's money well spent!!

Spudhead69 said:

Easy mate, won't know how good this marshydro light is till I complete a full grow with it, I'm more of a buy now ask questions later kinda guy lol so your post makes me feel better about my impulse buy!!! all I know so far is, it's a solid build don't feel cheap at all, it's really bright after looking into the tent just for a few seconds and I'm seeing purple spots! It came within 3 days of ordering (I'm from England btw Royal Mail FTW!!) only thing was it wasn't discret said blatantly on the side of the box led 900w light lol! I'll defo keep you up dated...one thing I've had to deal with is the heat loss I've brought a tube heater and have it running on a timer and I think watering the lady's is gonna be completely different as less water will evaporate... It's gonna take some getting used to but I'm sure it's money well spent!!

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Ha ha naw brotha I've read tons of people talking about using those lights on many forums. LOL I wasn't just going off your post! But there Are a couple people in here that have massive crops using them but I think they are always posting in the auto section. Plus it's been a month since I talked to the tech from Mars, As an electronic repair person I've ripped apart and fixed many ballast, computers, amps, and much more. They are basically built with similar capacitors similar PCB functions. So I knew what to ask the dude. He sent me pictures of parts and all that. He sent me a few pics to start and I messaged him back that I can google pics components to. He then went and took a few shots of the assembly areas with bins full of the components. Someone who just cares about $ doesn't go through that trouble. That person ignores the questions. But keep me updated I am interested. I've just been following this on here because I was wondering about them to add the spectrums to my To 1,000 watt HPS set up I already have because the red and blue make the buds so much fatter. Just what I've noticed.

btw I think I flushed the outdoor girls to early and fucked them up. They should be done but the buds are skinny, trichs are layered and the plants look like large buds themselves, but the trich's are super clear, no girth, super leafy, plants are dark green, and I have 6 rainy days left before it starts freezing at night. I can't bring myself to pull them thinking what if ya know but I don't think they are going to grow much and its going to rain a ton rest of the week. Might throw some clear bags over the large colas to prevent them from getting wetter but I don't wanna mess up the frost. I don't know if covering them like that will let the mold take over. Even with the microscope all Ib see are dark amber almost blood red pistils but crystal clear trichs. The trichs should have milked some by now. Was thinking about bringing them in to finish but I run 5 gasllon DWC buckets. How do ya bring a flowering soil plant inside and switching it to water! lol Maybe I'll cut them at the bottoms and set the stalks in buckets of DWC water an see what happens. When ever I cut clones that are early flower clones and set them in water they finish budding before they switch back to veg mode. But that's with clones.

WazzaX said:

not bad for a cheap Chinese led that "some" people around here use as doorstops

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Soooo happy i found this thread I just ordered http://www.mars-hydro.com/led-grow-light/reflector-series only $164 I was bummed couldnt order the next size up but wont fit in my cabinet length wise. What irritates me is in LED threads other ppl come in and slam LED's I have been researching for weeks and it really seems like LED's will overtake all other types lights for growing. Thanks for all the documenting of your marshydro grow. Didnt they have a coupon code to use at checkout for a discount, couldn't find it. There are a lot of cheap chinese panels out there but there are also some really good ones.

jpete0001 said:

Soooo happy i found this thread I just ordered http://www.mars-hydro.com/led-grow-light/reflector-series only $164 I was bummed couldnt order the next size up but wont fit in my cabinet length wise. What irritates me is in LED threads other ppl come in and slam LED's I have been researching for weeks and it really seems like LED's will overtake all other types lights for growing. Thanks for all the documenting of your marshydro grow. Didnt they have a coupon code to use at checkout for a discount, couldn't find it. There are a lot of cheap chinese panels out there but there are also some really good ones.

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A lot of people who slam LED have not used them, or have and didn't adapt to the new growing style. You have to tweak your style of growing a bit to be successful. Good for you pulling the trigger on it. I have had nothing short of good results with LED. I hope everything goes well!

MJA

The Anti Chinese LED people make me laugh, since all the 'made in america' stuff they love so much is almost always made of chinese components.. Living in the days of when the english speaking world was filled with skilled craftsmen and not liberal arts majors.. Just what is it about asian people that makes them supposedly less capable of making lights? and what makes modern american laborers better at it? Nothing. The first world is no longer industrious. or skilled. Or even competent half the time..

Anyways, I'm anxious about how these yields will be. I'm about to buy a secondary light, but waiting to see how you guys crop out. If I'm impressed, I will buy a mars hydro LED. If not, I'll have to get another HPS kit and wait for LED technology to evolve another generation or two. There's no doubt in my mind they will eventually outyield conventional HID bulbs.

Awesome growing here from what i've seen everyone.

Only thing i have to add is I don't see anyone supplementing with silica.. The plants silica intake is somehow affected by the spectrum/intensity of LEDs similar to how it affects cal/mag from what I've read. It's possible that adding silica would have even helped to correct some of the cal/mag anomalies.

Most of the High yielding LED users I subscribe to swear by supplementing extra silica.

Since I haven't grown LED myself, that info is NOT based on my personal experience, but something to consider for sure!

Cheers guys. Happy cropping

Hey @oilmaker68 , or anyone else who could help, I have 4 of these same 600w led Marshydro, I'm planning on doing a 5 gal dwc grow, 1 plant per 5 gal square bucket approx. 10in x 10in ea bucket. how many plants would u recommend putting under these bad boys? I was thinking a 6ft x 6ft or a 7ft x 7ft area with 9 - 12 buckets, for flowering stage. What's your opinion? How many would you put under 4 of these lights and how far apart do u recommend? I just wanna make sure each plant has plenty of space with plenty of watt going to each plant. I would even do less plants if u recommended. Any help is greatly appreciated!

Dude it’s easy to find all over the internet knowledge that 90% of led lights ALL come from China, the same exact companies make all the parts and lights in one area or province. All the guts anyways are except for lumigrow lights which yes are bomb but 8 times the price of a mars and just as economical. The only other actual made here in the USA led lights are called Ansling I believe and they do not sell large light kits. 150 I believe is the highest they go and yes they are the highest quality lights I have ever seen. Besides those two every single led off eBay including mars, all their components come from same assembly lines. Now, mars put these components together in a more quality way basically making a poor man’s lumigrow. I seen lumigrow lights the other day where the red blue and white led's were all on a separate turn knob wireless remote and the remote had a plant mode / people see mode where you flipped the switch, it killed all the power to the red and blue leds and sent that wattage to just the white leds so you could take pics, videos, look at your plants in real light. Now that is some pimp shit! A wireless remote to boot! But yeah the cheap ass Chinese led lights off eBay have basically the same components but don't have the reflectors set the same, or have the insides wired with quality caps etc. I read all about this after googling "what are the best led grow lights". They have large articles basically calling the mars series lights the best for your dollar. There was one more brand but there led lights were squares, none were like the mars which are rectangle longer one way. So when I hear people talk trash about leds it’s because they run hid's and prolly never tried them, or can afford to spend $1400 per light which I can't! Loll

Ok, so my 5 auto pounders took 5 days to grow 4 inches under my cfl light. I've now had them under my marshydro 900w led for 4 days and they haven't grown one bit :-/ either I've got something very wrong or the led is shite! I've watered them once with ph 6.2 just water! I've got a good airflow loads of space ..temp is between 24-26 humidity at 50! I hope it's not the light but everything is pointing to I've brought a dud led light :-/ I'm gonna give it 2 or 3 more days before I truly panic and switch back to my 600w I'll update soon

I read switching out types, strength of light can cause stress on plants...I hope its not the light cuz mine comes in few days lol

jpete0001 said:

I read switching out types, strength of light can cause stress on plants...I hope its not the light cuz mine comes in few days lol

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This could be the case mate stupidly and impatiently I used my small grow tent to get 5 auto ponders on the go under a cfl while I finished off another grow in my main tent...hope they adjust and start growing soon...I'm not gonna give up on the led just yet thou don't worry! What unit have u ordered?

i ordered the http://www.mars-hydro.com/reflector-led-grow-light-96-3w-74.html because the next size up wont fit in my cabinet I plan on getting some kree bulbs for side lighting

jpete0001 said:

i ordered the http://www.mars-hydro.com/reflector-led-grow-light-96-3w-74.html because the next size up wont fit in my cabinet I plan on getting some kree bulbs for side lighting

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I'm using the size below yours as a little side project cabinet grow to see if the mars hydro reflectors are any good with a view to maybe changing my whole setup to led in the near future and so far everything is going excellently at the moment I have one plant that's a few weeks old and a couple seedlings ready to start veg stage I'm only flowering the one plant under it I'll remove the others when I need space to my other room I decided to add them in there because even with the smallest of the reflector series I was seeing some impressive veging

AWESOME major

Spudhead69 said:

This could be the case mate stupidly and impatiently I used my small grow tent to get 5 auto ponders on the go under a cfl while I finished off another grow in my main tent...hope they adjust and start growing soon...I'm not gonna give up on the led just yet thou don't worry! What unit have u ordered?

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isn't 1 inch a day a lot of stretch that you most growers try to avoid in veg?

when you say not growing are they not growing new leaves/nodes? or are you just talking height gain?

I have the 700w mars 2 and it is doing wonders. I have the flowering spectrum and only use it for flowering, so not sure about how it vegs though.