Mar- A Lago raided FBI Warrants

DIY-HP-LED

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They appear to be doing nothing. They have incredibly damning evidence, top secret sci documents, boxes of documents he should have never taken to begin with, empty folders that they've had plenty of time to match to documents, if the documents that went in them were there to find...i'm starting to think that i'm never going to have to make good on my conditional apology to Garland, because he's never going to prosecute trump. if he doesn't by the end of the year, then Biden ought to replace him with someone who actually has male secondary sexual characteristics...
The DOJ speaks in court with filings and Trump helped a lot with revealing what we know, he stepped in it with the search of Mar A Lago. The DOJ also kinda speaks through it's alumni and you've seen them on TV, the retired types ain't much different than the ones working there now. They appear to have faith in the boss and they ain't no cult, they are professionals, but they also have an internal grapevine and know what some colleagues are doing and have done.
 

Budley Doright

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a lot of it is just enmity between the parties...expresed a lot more by the republicans.
if a democrat, a liberal, a progressive thinks of an idea, thats all they have to know...it doesn't matter if it was a good idea, doesn't matter if it would help them, they don't want help from the libs, they'd rather blunder through, destroying more than they're building, than take any help from "THEM"...
So it would seem! MAGA’s want a fucking apology ……. Seriously so fucked in the brain they are.
 

Budzbuddha

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All of this is (and has been) grist for skepticism about her decision Monday. But perhaps the best signifier that Trump might find her to be sympathetic is how eagerly his attorneys sought her out.

In a thorough review of Cannon’s background, the Daily Beast’s Jose Pagliery notes that Trump’s failed, baseless effort to sue Hillary Clinton for the Russia investigation this year was similarly filed with the apparent hope that Cannon would assess the case.

Pagliery wrote that “when his attorneys formally filed the paperwork, they selected a tiny courthouse in the sprawling federal court district’s furthest northeast corner — a satellite location that’s 70 miles from Mar-a-Lago. They ignored the West Palm Beach federal courthouse that’s a 12-minute drive away.”

Her’s of course.
 

doublejj

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All of this is (and has been) grist for skepticism about her decision Monday. But perhaps the best signifier that Trump might find her to be sympathetic is how eagerly his attorneys sought her out.

In a thorough review of Cannon’s background, the Daily Beast’s Jose Pagliery notes that Trump’s failed, baseless effort to sue Hillary Clinton for the Russia investigation this year was similarly filed with the apparent hope that Cannon would assess the case.

Pagliery wrote that “when his attorneys formally filed the paperwork, they selected a tiny courthouse in the sprawling federal court district’s furthest northeast corner — a satellite location that’s 70 miles from Mar-a-Lago. They ignored the West Palm Beach federal courthouse that’s a 12-minute drive away.”

Her’s of course.
republicans like a rigged game.....
 

topcat

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If I am already on the high road, the energetics become favorable.

I frequently find being angry to be an expenditure of vitality units I’d rather expend elsewhere.

Your style is more to grab the anger in both hands and lag-bolt a saddle onto it, then hang on for the wild ride.

Both work. Thus my mangled quote.

I do not believe that Judge Numpty is going to effectively stay DOJ or FBI from doing their jobs. If Heronner formalizes the injunction, DOJ will appeal. If the Eleventh do what we both think they’ll do, that too is a temporary setback. It will have long-term good effects, since it will be one more datum that that man’s loyalist jurists are a clear and present danger. (Dark Brandon reference here)

If she does not formalize, then that leaves considerable discretion for DOJ to do much with what they already have. My long-term confidence is still high.
This judge is a trainee. DOJ should appeal. The result should show the public her ineptitude.
So, how was the jurisdiction question answered, I haven't followed closely. Didn't she even ask why they were in her court? Didn't she ask what they want her to do?
 

cannabineer

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This judge is a trainee. DOJ should appeal. The result should show the public her ineptitude.
So, how was the jurisdiction question answered, I haven't followed closely. Didn't she even ask why they were in her court? Didn't she ask what they want her to do?
I suspect her avoiding inconvenient questions was a prime qualification.
I agree that her performance should lead to hard questions about that man’s loyalists up to and including the justices who lied to Congress.
 

Fogdog

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They need to appeal this. There is no executive privilege. Nothing to litigate.

U.S. District Judge Aileen Cannon — a Trump appointee — said in her ruling Monday that the special master should be able to review the seized documents both to address questions of attorney-client privilege and to litigate claims of executive privilege.
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I'm OK with the Special Master reviewing documents for attorney-client privilege. But in no way is executive privilege involved here. DOJ should get that mistake cleared up before things go further.
 

printer

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They need to appeal this. There is no executive privilege. Nothing to litigate.

U.S. District Judge Aileen Cannon — a Trump appointee — said in her ruling Monday that the special master should be able to review the seized documents both to address questions of attorney-client privilege and to litigate claims of executive privilege.
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I'm OK with the Special Master reviewing documents for attorney-client privilege. But in no way is executive privilege involved here. DOJ should get that mistake cleared up before things go further.
Sure, they can appeal, more time.
 

PJ Diaz

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Fake news isn't anything new, it just has a flashy name these days. Here's just a couple of examples from the Bush era.


 

Fogdog

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Sure, they can appeal, more time.
Yes, it will take more time. But allowing the judge to rule Trump could invoke executive privilege is not only wrong but will inevitably lead to the same delay or more.

The ruling is a win for Trump. Regardless whether DOJ appeals or not, the ruling will cause delays. But the idea that an ex-president has executive privilege is wrong and dangerous going forward.
 
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