Mar- A Lago raided FBI Warrants

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
It appears a few things will happen after midterms - matt “ creeper “ gaetz is getting the gas pedal mashed on his sex crime investigation. Hoping the Georgia AG investigation takes a stick to the fat orange pinata sooner than later.

As he dangles in the wind of uncertainty- he loses daily . He must be raging to his ragtag group of cheap lawyers at every turn. He plead the fifth 440 times for crying out loud. His moronic son eric pleaded as well - some 500 times. His debts are still here , not including his foreign ones. On paper he is at least a third of his “ wealth “ in debt.

Good times ahead. Maybe he will grift prison artwork.

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Unclebaldrick

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it might be as high as 20%, although that seems awfully high to me...but how many of those are even capable of fighting? https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/religious-landscape-study/compare/age-distribution/by/state/among/party-affiliation/republican-lean-rep/
at least half of the republican base is over 50, and at least 20% is over 65.
how many aren't willing to fight? how many are cowards? how many are too poor to travel?.....still not worried about the great magat revolt...the most revolting thing about them is their beliefs.
Hard for me to judge. The people I work with are at least 70% MAGAtards. Locally, I would put it at 40% in the community. And there are lots of places much more red than here.
 

ActionianJacksonian

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I like your bravery; that's not a gotcha though, just semantics. Regardless of what they call themselves in a generation, we have two parties; one of conservatives and one of liberals.. Whigs and Torys, but we still have two parties.
True. Collectivist, individualist/ globalist, nationalist.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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Your argument is based on sentiment. Solitary without parole is sufficient remedy. We do not need to debase ourselves to their level.

We most emphatically don’t need the punishment for theft that you describe. It is a criterion for theocrats.
i've always leaned towards making thieves pay off their debt working for the county at minimum wage, or they can just sit in jail for a dollar a day...they stole 10,000 dollars, they serve 10,000 days...sort of as an incentive to get the fuck up and work it off
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
i've always leaned towards making thieves pay off their debt working for the county at minimum wage, or they can just sit in jail for a dollar a day...they stole 10,000 dollars, they serve 10,000 days...sort of as an incentive to get the fuck up and work it off
Our system is biased toward apprehending retail thieves. The big ones generally know whom to pay off. I’d like to see something done about wholesale corruption.

Me and every political observer since before we had writing. It is an old, tough nut.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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Hard for me to judge. The people I work with are at least 70% MAGAtards. Locally, I would put it at 40% in the community. And there are lots of places much more red than here.
there are a lot of places a lot more blue than there, too...i know it seems like there are a lot of them, but that's just because they're at least three times as annoying as a non magat.
i just find it hard to take them seriously as a threat...they talk a big game, and enough of them are stupid enough to try something like 1/6 again...but no where near enough to succeed at anything they try.
they have two violent options, that have even the remotest of chances, which are still vanishingly small...
they can gather and march en masse to the capitol and try to make demands...but this time, there will be no one to keep the capital police or the national guard from interfering...it will result in mass arrests, and possibly a lot of dead magats, as well as a few dead national guardsmen, which would, of course, be regrettable, but entirely the fault of the seditious magats...afterwards, any leadership that wasn't present will be rounded up and charged as well as their stupider foot soldiers...
the second option would be for them to organize, and try to take over local government buildings, perhaps with lists of grievances...i don't see this going any better at all for them...local police, swat units, and separate state guard units will deal with them on a case by case basis, again leading to mass arrests, some deaths, and the rounding up of any leadership not present at the time...
they fucking lose, no matter how you look at it, there's no fucking way they can win, no hostages they can take, that will get them a single thing they want, it will brand them as the traitors they are, and the very party will be forever tainted as traitors...
 

Herb & Suds

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there are a lot of places a lot more blue than there, too...i know it seems like there are a lot of them, but that's just because they're at least three times as annoying as a non magat.
i just find it hard to take them seriously as a threat...they talk a big game, and enough of them are stupid enough to try something like 1/6 again...but no where near enough to succeed at anything they try.
they have two violent options, that have even the remotest of chances, which are still vanishingly small...
they can gather and march en masse to the capitol and try to make demands...but this time, there will be no one to keep the capital police or the national guard from interfering...it will result in mass arrests, and possibly a lot of dead magats, as well as a few dead national guardsmen, which would, of course, be regrettable, but entirely the fault of the seditious magats...afterwards, any leadership that wasn't present will be rounded up and charged as well as their stupider foot soldiers...
the second option would be for them to organize, and try to take over local government buildings, perhaps with lists of grievances...i don't see this going any better at all for them...local police, swat units, and separate state guard units will deal with them on a case by case basis, again leading to mass arrests, some deaths, and the rounding up of any leadership not present at the time...
they fucking lose, no matter how you look at it, there's no fucking way they can win, no hostages they can take, that will get them a single thing they want, it will brand them as the traitors they are, and the very party will be forever tainted as traitors...
But but
They always win at Fortnight you commie :roll:
 

Budzbuddha

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This reads like an old pulp magazine - True Crime Stories Or The Fatman Chronicles .

I would say Trump thinks he is a mobster-in-chief or a poor man’s Sydney Greenstreet ( apologees to mr. Greenstreet )

In a letter, which was obtained by The New York Times, Haines said her office would work with the Justice Department to ensure that the assessment did not interfere with the department’s criminal investigation concerning the documents. The review will determine what intelligence sources or systems could be identified from the documents and be compromised if they fell into the wrong hands.

Haines’ letter, dated Friday, was reported earlier by Politico. It came after the leaders of the Intelligence and Oversight Committees asked her on Aug. 13 to conduct an “immediate review and damage assessment” in the wake of the FBI’s search of Mar-a-Lago, during which federal agents recovered 11 sets of classified documents.

The Senate Intelligence Committee also asked for a damage assessment, according to the panel’s chair, Sen. Mark Warner, D-Va., who said the request had been bipartisan.

On Friday, the Justice Department released a redacted version of the affidavit used to obtain the search warrant for Mar-a-Lago. That document included the revelation that Trump had retained highly classified material after leaving office, including documents related to the use of “clandestine human sources” in intelligence gathering.

Reps. Adam B. Schiff, D-Calif., the chair of the Intelligence Committee, and Carolyn B. Maloney, D-N.Y., the chair of the Oversight Committee, issued an approving statement in response to Haines’ letter.

“The DOJ affidavit, partially unsealed yesterday, affirms our grave concern that among the documents stored at Mar-a-Lago were those that could endanger human sources,” the lawmakers said in their statement.

Clandestine human intelligence is intelligence collected from human sources using clandestine espionage methods. These sources consist of people working in a variety of roles within the intelligence community. Examples include the quintessential spy (known by professionals as an asset or agent), who collects intelligence; couriers and related personnel, who handle an intelligence organization's (ideally) secure communications; and support personnel, such as access agents, who may arrange the contact between the potential spy and the case officer who recruits them. The recruiter and supervising agent may not necessarily be the same individual. Large espionage networks may be composed of multiple levels of spies, support personnel, and supervisors. Espionage networks are typically organized as a cell system, in which each clandestine operator knows only the people in his own cell, perhaps the external case officer, and an emergency method (which may not necessarily involve another person) to contact higher levels if the case officer or cell leader is captured, but has no knowledge of people in other cells. This cellular organization is a form of compartmentalisation, which is an important tactic for controlling access to information, used in order to diminish the risk of discovery of the network or the release of sensitive information.

The Fat Man

 

Bagginski

Well-Known Member
This reads like an old pulp magazine - True Crime Stories Or The Fatman Chronicles .

I would say Trump thinks he is a mobster-in-chief or a poor man’s Sydney Greenstreet ( apologees to mr. Greenstreet )

In a letter, which was obtained by The New York Times, Haines said her office would work with the Justice Department to ensure that the assessment did not interfere with the department’s criminal investigation concerning the documents. The review will determine what intelligence sources or systems could be identified from the documents and be compromised if they fell into the wrong hands.

Haines’ letter, dated Friday, was reported earlier by Politico. It came after the leaders of the Intelligence and Oversight Committees asked her on Aug. 13 to conduct an “immediate review and damage assessment” in the wake of the FBI’s search of Mar-a-Lago, during which federal agents recovered 11 sets of classified documents.

The Senate Intelligence Committee also asked for a damage assessment, according to the panel’s chair, Sen. Mark Warner, D-Va., who said the request had been bipartisan.

On Friday, the Justice Department released a redacted version of the affidavit used to obtain the search warrant for Mar-a-Lago. That document included the revelation that Trump had retained highly classified material after leaving office, including documents related to the use of “clandestine human sources” in intelligence gathering.

Reps. Adam B. Schiff, D-Calif., the chair of the Intelligence Committee, and Carolyn B. Maloney, D-N.Y., the chair of the Oversight Committee, issued an approving statement in response to Haines’ letter.

“The DOJ affidavit, partially unsealed yesterday, affirms our grave concern that among the documents stored at Mar-a-Lago were those that could endanger human sources,” the lawmakers said in their statement.

Clandestine human intelligence is intelligence collected from human sources using clandestine espionage methods. These sources consist of people working in a variety of roles within the intelligence community. Examples include the quintessential spy (known by professionals as an asset or agent), who collects intelligence; couriers and related personnel, who handle an intelligence organization's (ideally) secure communications; and support personnel, such as access agents, who may arrange the contact between the potential spy and the case officer who recruits them. The recruiter and supervising agent may not necessarily be the same individual. Large espionage networks may be composed of multiple levels of spies, support personnel, and supervisors. Espionage networks are typically organized as a cell system, in which each clandestine operator knows only the people in his own cell, perhaps the external case officer, and an emergency method (which may not necessarily involve another person) to contact higher levels if the case officer or cell leader is captured, but has no knowledge of people in other cells. This cellular organization is a form of compartmentalisation, which is an important tactic for controlling access to information, used in order to diminish the risk of discovery of the network or the release of sensitive information.

The Fat Man

Good post, great movie!
 

DIY-HP-LED

Well-Known Member
Fuck you Lady G - good job inciting more MAGA violence- you stupid fucking twat.

Yep in the streets of rural America, they wouldn't do very well in most cities and would most likely get the shit beat out of themselves. Good, bring them out on the streets where folks can get a crack at them and the cops are on notice that they are being video taped, in case any want to get friendly with them. If they want to settle it in the streets instead of the voting booth, I don't think they will do as well as they think.

In that case bust Trump before the election and let them do their terrorist thing, before people vote. A wave of republican domestic terrorism before the election should help the democrats to gain more seats. Joe was wrong, they are not semi fascists, they are fascists plain and simple, if they support it, even with silence, they are no different than those who do it.
 

Unclebaldrick

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The Republican gaslighting mind-fuck is really meant for situations like this.

The mental gymnastics they have to do to support Trump are amazing.

Trump has top secret documents in his poorly secured domicile? "If John Bolton did his job right, they are all declassified!"

No evidence of that? "The President has sole authority!"

So I could go get all that info with a simple FOIA request? "Obama took millions of pages, they all do it!"

Trump did not comply with subpoenas and obstructed justice in order to conceal and withhold the return of the documents to the rightful owners, 'We The People"? The FBI is weaponized! Hillary took a chair!

It's just amazing.
 
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