Mammoth P

MudDuck said:
I'm holding the bottle and the heaviest recommended dilution is scheduled at weeks 9, 10, and 11, calling for a mere 4mL per gallon at this time.
The microbes present are also said to withstand chlorine from tap water and that's pretty neat.
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I recently watched a vid of certain microbes that will delay the plant shutting off sugar supply at end cycle and if I recall, the plant will put on a little more weight as a side product of that. I believe the vid on mamothP site said you won't see much gain until the end so it's interesting that the high dose rates (didn't know them till you stated it) start around then. But that could be coincidental or I'm mistaken on the microbe info.
 
As well as bud yield gains, I noticed increased jump start and acceleration of growth in clones and in early veg state. Not quite the same explosive growth out of the gate that you see from Azos powder (I once plopped an extra rooted clone in a hole in the ground dusted with azos during mid day and was surprised to see it standing up straight the next day) but there's no reason why you couldn't use both in your soil. I'm not a rep, just a schmuck who got a free sample and liked it.
 
Glad so many people are having success with this stuff. It does look very interesting. And for a small grower one bottle might last quite a long time. When I get to my 3rd grow I'm going to get a sample to try. I saw this on GrowMau5 channel and thought "no way" but apparently this stuff really does work.
 
MudDuck said:
As well as bud yield gains, I noticed increased jump start and acceleration of growth in clones and in early veg state. Not quite the same explosive growth out of the gate that you see from Azos powder (I once plopped an extra rooted clone in a hole in the ground dusted with azos during mid day and was surprised to see it standing up straight the next day) but there's no reason why you couldn't use both in your soil. I'm not a rep, just a schmuck who got a free sample and liked it.
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You had any experience with recharge for the same use?.
 
Why are so many people shitting on new things? Just let people do a side by side (using the correct dosage, hopefully) and see the results. Then we can make an informed decision as to it being worth $200 for multiple harvests with a 5-20% gain.
 
HideousPenguinBoy said:
Why are so many people shitting on new things? Just let people do a side by side (using the correct dosage, hopefully) and see the results. Then we can make an informed decision as to it being worth $200 for multiple harvests with a 5-20% gain.
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Must.. have.. shiny.. ball......... ;)

Hey, I fell for the free sample also.
 
I actually ran a full bottle that I bought. I ran it for about 6 months on half my plants, 15 of them. I will say that besides my plants "praying" more. I did not notice a significant difference. I honestly feel it was not worth the money I spent. I email them and shared my findings. IMO they are more about making money than keeping any of us happy.

I would save my money and invest in a microbulater.
 
greg nr said:
Must.. have.. shiny.. ball......... ;)

Hey, I fell for the free sample also.
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Fell for a free thing?? Never heard of it.

FWIW, in my side-by-side I have kept the dosage at 1ml/gal throughout and only adding to my twice weekly tea.

This way a 200ml sample goes a long, long way and results are still very clear.
 
HideousPenguinBoy said:
Why are so many people shitting on new things? Just let people do a side by side (using the correct dosage, hopefully) and see the results. Then we can make an informed decision as to it being worth $200 for multiple harvests with a 5-20% gain.
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If the gains were entirely exclusive to this product alone you would have my ear. A experienced grower in this thread has used the product and stated he is getting better yields with products that cost half as much. Couple that with the fact that so many expensive products in the past have similarly been ripped apart and then done cheaper, the myth busters would be asking why they are still here.

Side by sides are great, hope more people report on this product. But only from the mentality of what products performed similarly for cheaper, that is where people who run those tests with that goal do us all a service. The rest might as well work for AN.

You call this shitting on a product, I call it avoiding being ripped off. The only reason I keep posting on this is so that the topic has balance. New or on the cheap growers should have that balance so they know that you 100% don't need to spend big on nutes to yield big. Is very more likely they will do better spending that extra money on environment upgrades that will last far longer than a 1L bottle at $200.
 
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Flowki said:
If the gains were entirely exclusive to this product alone you would have my ear. A experienced grower in this thread has used the product and stated he is getting better yields with products that cost half as much. Couple that with the fact that so many expensive products in the past have similarly been ripped apart and then done cheaper, the myth busters would be asking why they are still here.
Side by sides are great, hope more people report on this product. But only from the mentality of what products performed similarly for cheaper, that is where people who run those tests with that goal do us all a service. The rest might as well work for AN.
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Growers doing comparison grows often test... not perfectly scientifically. Which is fine, just, it makes me want to see results from multiple people. We have one grower in this thread that said that, and we have one grower on youtube who showed evidence of it that was pretty substantial. So more side by sides with correct dosage in controlled side by sides are required to stop evidence from just being anecdotal. Also reporting what medium and other stuff you were using during the grow, since there is a white paper on some enzymes being stymied by fulvic acid, etc that wasn't taken into account.

Also, it's great that people will want to compare this to another cheaper product! Stopping companies from taking advantage of new/rich/lazy growers is commendable. I really don't want to pay $200 for 6 months of product that I could buy for $20. (dry nutrients come to mind) I just have found that on these forums people show up to shit on new things, offering nothing in return. What I would love to see is more people being interesting in growing (punny!) as growers, testing new methods/products as close to scientific as possible and sharing (fully) the results with the community so they can make a consensus. Granted, I'm new, but this has been my experience thus far.
 
I run Mammoth religiously and I get half lb plants with no trellising or ties. I also use a lot of Kracken so my stalks are like concrete. I'll get 2lb/light on 630 CMHs this round.
 
Can someone teach me about this product? any info on the label? organic? expires? What does it smell like?
 
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a mongo frog said:
This sounds record braking!!!!!! Can you share some veg tip please? Like how long, how many times topped, strain? Also what size foot print does the 630 let one do?
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I do 4-5 week veg. Basically until they are 3-3.5 feet tall. Not too many tops. They get topped very early. I'm running blue dream, a skywalker OG cross, and blackberry kush. I run CMH as if they cover 4x4 but I think if you were desperate you do a little bigger. 14" colas.
 

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