"Males" actually Females?! Why is sexing so hard...

StolenCamaro

StolenCamaro

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I thought I had it figured out! Out of 4 plants, I had 4 males. They had the balled up preflowers and all. Well, I through out 2 and kept 2. It's my first grow, so I figured growing them through would be good experience anyways. Well, they've been 12/12 for a while now, and they look very female to me. I don't get this! I guess what I've learned for now is that preflowers (at least as far as my discerning eyes go) don't mean much. Are these babes though? Now I don't know what's what with sexing...

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StolenCamaro

StolenCamaro

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Which one is which?! They look the same to me... I honestly don't know which plant is which in the pictures, both plants have many many of these 'colas' and they all have balls, but with the hairs coming out
 
TheSnake

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White hairs, and no balls = Dead give away of female.
If you suspect a male, wait till balls show, and with no white hairs, kill once your sure. Some start later, both of those look male to me.
 
StolenCamaro

StolenCamaro

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DAMMIT.

Well, at least I'd already come to terms with them being male. Thanks for all the help, folks- this forum has really helped me (even though my first grow is a flop!)

I think I may keep growing them since I have nothing else and no seeds at the moment... but next time, definitely getting feminized seeds.
 
Saerimmner

Saerimmner

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2nd pic is def male, 1st pic hard to tell at that angle but looks more male than female

MIght be of some help to ya
 
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dirtpower

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Pic on the left, can't really see it very well, but looks male to me, pic on right is definitely male...and I don't see any white hairs on either
 
StolenCamaro

StolenCamaro

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I think I misinterpreted what a white hair is. I guess the things I attributed to be white hairs were just more leaves growing out, but in a different way than during veg. Live and learn, right boys?
 
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Johnxnyg

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I am a new grower as well, but I have read that if you are not making seeds you should ditch the males. I thought you said you want to grow again in the future, and if those sacs explode and pollen gets everywhere, it might affect your future grows. I am not 100% on this maybe someone else can chime in.
 
Saerimmner

Saerimmner

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Johnxnyg said:
I am a new grower as well, but I have read that if you are not making seeds you should ditch the males. I thought you said you want to grow again in the future, and if those sacs explode and pollen gets everywhere, it might affect your future grows. I am not 100% on this maybe someone else can chime in.
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Yeah you are right, you cant smoke the males and the will impregnate your females creating seeds.

For all the new growers I will say if you pop into the newbie section of the forum there are loads of threads stickied and if you read enough in there it will answer all of the basic questions you need to get growing, RIU is one of, if not THE biggest MJ resources on the net, any possible question you have has been answered on here a hundred times over and all the relevant threads have been made into stickies to help you out finding the info you need......its where a lot of us all started years ago :-)
 
Ace Yonder

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I dunno, if it were me I would still try to smoke them, or at least do SOMETHING with them. Male plants DO contain thc, just not as much as females. Ed Rosenthal says in his book that at early stages of growth, male plants actually have more thc than females (Although females quickly eclipse them). THC is present in the resin glands and protects the plant from various things (Moisture loss, UV radiation, etc.) and the resin glands are present on male flowers, albeit nowhere near as densely as on female flowers. I took these photos of resin glands on male flowers.
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The question is whether it is enough to be worth the risk of seeding females you may want to grow, but if it were me and I spent that much time raising males you can be damn sure I would try to smoke them, rub hash from them, or make cannabutter from them (The most likely option).
 
Saerimmner

Saerimmner

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Ace Yonder said:
I dunno, if it were me I would still try to smoke them, or at least do SOMETHING with them. Male plants DO contain thc, just not as much as females. Ed Rosenthal says in his book that at early stages of growth, male plants actually have more thc than females (Although females quickly eclipse them). THC is present in the resin glands and protects the plant from various things (Moisture loss, UV radiation, etc.) and the resin glands are present on male flowers, albeit nowhere near as densely as on female flowers. I took these photos of resin glands on male flowers.
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The question is whether it is enough to be worth the risk of seeding females you may want to grow, but if it were me and I spent that much time raising males you can be damn sure I would try to smoke them, rub hash from them, or make cannabutter from them (The most likely option).
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Plenty of people have tried smoking males and all it does is give them a headache, no effects otherwise from it, no high etc, only thing males are good for is breeding with
 
Ace Yonder

Ace Yonder

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Saerimmner said:
Plenty of people have tried smoking males and all it does is give them a headache, no effects otherwise from it, no high etc, only thing males are good for is breeding with
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I like how you speak for all people who have tried smoking males. A very quick google search returned the following: "not true bloom when breeding ive come across male's full of thc its one of the characteristics i look for in male's and when im finished with them i make canna butter or honey oil out of them but there not good just to grow for a smoke as you only get a few gs of smokeable material from a plant....you said they have a minuscule amount when ive had males that have been covered in thc and gram to gram will get you just as stoned as from a female plant the thc from a female plant isn't any stronger than from a male its just theres more of it" and "
The male plant is not a good smoke. This however may not always be the case. Some strains have male plants that produce more THC than other males of a different strain. Sometimes the male can be stronger than a female from another weak strain. Most male plants from good genetics are stronger than the Ruderalis female. Males can be smoked or made into hash oil. Simply wait until the plant is flowering and then clip the top 6 inches of the plant away and remove the leaves. Throwaway any stems and branches. Cure these leaves and then find out for yourself if the male is any good or not. You may be in for a surprise."

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Giving advice based on your personal experience is fine, but I'm not sure your experience qualifies you to say what EVERYONE else's experiences have been. Clearly there are people who find ways to utilize male plants. You aren't one of them, and that's cool, but it doesn't invalidate every other viewpoint.
 
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