MAGNESIUM Deficiency? BAD leaf curl *PICS*

onenumcat said:

ha, I didn't realize that. although, by some of your comments, I should have. sry, I don't know crap bout no aeroponics, lol. I'm a newb too! I prolly wouldn't have posted a comment if I'd known...lol




I think he just means he don't know bout no aeroponics either...idk, imo...

hope ya get that sorted...good luck.

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no worries. I don't think I originally mentioned I was using aero with 3" net pots & pebbles.

The chicken wing is part of an analogy, an analogy I used to describe how you were making your plants worse by adding epsom salts. I guess I'll have to relate the material a little better next time, maybe draw you a little picture?

I wrote an entire paragraph telling you exactly what to do, you don't see anything constructive in that? I'm out, have fun killing your plants, even though you were told exactly how to save them.

TheDankness said:

The chicken wing is part of an analogy, an analogy I used to describe how you were making your plants worse by adding epsom salts. I guess I'll have to relate the material a little better next time, maybe draw you a little picture?

I wrote an entire paragraph telling you exactly what to do, you don't see anything constructive in that? I'm out, have fun killing your plants, even though you were told exactly how to save them.

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holy god last time i post a problem. Please read the entire forum and response before posting.

1st- I wasn't even referring to you about the constructive responses.

2nd- I was merely making fun of an unnecessary analogy. While also becoming bewildered by the fact that you are repeating what others have already said.

I am not looking to start a hissy fit in here guys. That is the reason I said the thing about constructive comments to begin with. OMG are you guys bored out ur skulls or something?

Thanks for the actual replies those of you who have not constantly givin me shit.

dam what a load of diks

anyways it was a mg deficiency.

Flushed 4 days ago and new growth appears healthier.

a higher ph is necessary in order to reach acceptable mg levels.


I still dont know why my plants growing next to these (diff system same conditions) are not having this problem.

Ill get bak 2 u guys on this.

TheDankness said:

The chicken wing is part of an analogy, an analogy I used to describe how you were making your plants worse by adding epsom salts. I guess I'll have to relate the material a little better next time, maybe draw you a little picture?

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I don't think a picture will work on this one.

I wrote an entire paragraph telling you exactly what to do, you don't see anything constructive in that? I'm out, have fun killing your plants, even though you were told exactly how to save them.

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Yep, he WILL ruin his crop. I gave him step by step constructive advice starting with what a Mg deficiency looks like in leaf tissue, pointing out the fact that his food contains Mg which pretty much eliminates a Mg deficiency (if the pH is kept in the range of 5.5 - 7.2), also advising him like you did that adding more Mg will only create nutrient problems regarding nutrient antagonism, etc. and all we get from this noob is the back of his hand. Perhaps our posts here have helped those who wish to learn. Leave this guy to own devices.

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my god you guys are persistent. I asked that non constructive posts like this cease. I will decommission this thread I guess so I don't have to keep reading your bull.

I believe the reason you responded again is because you know your answer was not helpful. You did provide some common advice found in the FAQ or any growbook however you presented it most negatively. "read it and weep"? "only made matters worse".

I was looking more for a "Hey yeah that looks like a Mg deficiency heres what you might try" or mebe a "Hey fuck epsom salts, dont listen to that chart."

If anyone can copy and paste exactly where I began to discourage relevant posts please do inform me. Sorry If i demeaned your wonderful advice uncle ben. Please c my questions for you on PAGE ONE.

In fact all it took was flushing out the epsom salts (which did not make matters better or worse) , adding new light load of nutes, and adjust to a higher PH.

Just because i'm calling you guys dicks doesn't mean you have to scour my forum, actually READ IT FOR THE FIRST Time and then figure out a cheeky response. Go smoke a bowl and cheese off already.

BTW THE PLANTS ARE LOOKING BETTER no thanks to you guys.

Check this out, even though he's been insulting us all and saying we're not constructive, this noob does exactly what we tell him to. Then, what we say to do works, and he is still insulting everyone.

TheDankness said:

Change the water in your res first, you have to get all of those salts out of there, they're whats probably causing the lockout, that buildup of salt(salts=chicken wing). I have always read that Mg is locked out at a low ph and by excess fertilizer salts. When you put new water in your res, up the ph a little bit, I'd say somewhere in the 5.8-6.0 range, and keep the ppm low(this is the fresh air). If all goes well, your plant should start to utilize the Mg already present in your nutrient solution(no chicken wing + clean fresh air = yay they can breathe), any additional Mg added will just create new problems.

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gvega187 said:

In fact all it took was flushing out the epsom salts (which did not make matters better or worse) , adding new light load of nutes, and adjust to a higher PH.

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If anyone here was being a dick to you, its because you were being a sassy little bitch. You shouldn't expect everyone on RIU to drop everything and give you advice, especially when you are giving everyone that pissy attitude of yours. Think about it, you're the one who needs the help here, we could just say fuck you and not give you any advice if we wanted to. You should thank your lucky stars anyone even responded to you.

gvega187 said:

BTW THE PLANTS ARE LOOKING BETTER no thanks to you guys.

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This coming from the guy that did exactly what we said. A thanks would be nice you ungrateful brat...

flushing and adjusting ph is common knowledge not advice. I did those things before you mentioned them... again please read my previous responses.

I am not a noob, I am not a kid, but I am tired of your shit.

Ok if we wanna start pointing fingers again Uncle ben began being sassy initially, which is what promoted my harsh response to his comments. If you would like someone to continually attack perhaps you should comb thru his threads in your seemingly ample spare time.

Thread closed.

gvega187 said:

flushing and adjusting ph is common knowledge not advice.

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Not common knowledge to you apparently. If it's common knowledge why did you even start this thread?

What are you 80? The US is the land of ungrateful brats. I have been a great help to these forums for some time. I answer other peoples problems to the best of my ability and do not answer if I am unsure at all. Plenty of users have come to appreciate and respect my knowledge and presence here. I would appreciate you using logic in your argument and not simply name calling.

I am proud to say that my signature space on here is a noobs response I thought hilarious...unfortunately dankness, I think your signature is most serious. I wish I had noticed that more recently. CFL's and bagseeds...somebody's an expert.

TheDankness said:

Not common knowledge to you apparently. If it's common knowledge why did you even start this thread?

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as a precautionary measure or perhaps paranoia. Thinking that the universal flush and adjust fix wouldnt work I was hoping another answer might arrise from this forum...for example my water is at 200ppms without nutes.

I would call that hard, but uncle ben seems to think otherwise. He runs over 700ppm out of the tap. .. quite impressive

gvega187 said:

What are you 80? The US is the land of ungrateful brats. I have been a great help to these forums for some time. I answer other peoples problems to the best of my ability and do not answer if I am unsure at all. Plenty of users have come to appreciate and respect my knowledge and presence here. I would appreciate you using logic in your argument and not simply name calling.

I am proud to say that my signature space on here is a noobs response I thought hilarious...unfortunately dankness, I think your signature is most serious. I wish I had noticed that more recently. CFL's and bagseeds...somebody's an expert.

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I am 22, I have helped more people than you, and my plants have no Mg problems right now, so I guess I'm more of an expert than you, right?

that is incorrect. Apology accepted.

gvega187 said:

that is incorrect. Apology accepted.

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I never apologized, looks like someone is petty AND delusional.

yall are whallllllin the f*ck out.......... but yo ... there right. in the advice they gave you atleast..... ide suggesting getting pureblend pro.... my buddy uses GH and it sucks. the the full line of botanicare. you wont regret it...

I assume you mean Uncle Ben was right in suggesting that Floranova nutrients are BS. While this may be true, I have had extraordinary success with this line in the past say 3-4 years. I have found that the GH 3 part is absolutely terrible, but the organic floranova series works for me... usually...not so much this time.

The new genetics (t44) do not appear to be responding favorably to the ratio. Any other nutrient favorites? I am seriously thinking about the botanicare line as stinkbud uses it and this guy suggests it. Thanks

yea... even if you want to use gh just add a couple ferts from botanicare.... ide suggest liquid karma, cal-mag, silica blast, and pure blend pro bloom.... the bloom is decent enough fer veg as well as flower. organics is the way to go to man...
i havnt tried the power plant series. or the tri-flex series from botanicare. all ik is pureblend pro is the best of the three...... one more thing... if you could throw some more picsup. i think i got the same prob asyou but i cant get it to go away. i dont have a camera but i have a camcorder. so im gonna throw a vid up on youtube........ Pe@ce...

If you have this problem it will manifest exactly as the chart indicates on page one.

Very simply put, Mg becomes available in hydroponics at a range of 5.8-6.0 If you are running your system at 5.5 as u normally would, you may have a problem.

I have only had this problem with my newer genetic, which seems to veg out very quick and requires more Mg. somehow.