Mac or PC?

see4

see4

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Fluff Up said:
you know, your first post was a little mis-leading, that's a pretty massive leap from apple-fag to hardcore dev, so when it comes to real work you use a real OS ;)
You must understand where the apple haters are coming from when most people use them for nothing more than internet, video and typing a new CV every few years, all of which can be done just as well for a lot, lot cheaper.
I appreciate/occasionally use CLI for linux which being based on unix like iOS leads me to assume it's similar in iOS so I get where you're coming from but they vendor lock hard with the average consumer
in my experience linux mint with Samba sharing a NTFS drive is the handiest but I've never had to cope with a Mac on the LAN
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I'm impressed you picked up on that quickly.

Yes, I get why people hate Apple, I'm annoyed with them myself, but I also know how frustrating Windows is, and how limiting it is. In my case I resolve that by running a Windows VM on my iMac and contain any "bad things", lol.

I agree they vendor lock for the layman. But I understand why. The average computer user needs and wants a computer that works and doesnt get congested with bullshit and crash. Apple satisfies that need. Windows based PCs do not.

LinuxMint is fun. So is Ubuntu. I used to run Ubuntu about 10 years ago.

I have to run on NTFS on my shared drives, they are all over 2TB. I'd prefer EXT3 or even FAT, but well.. that's the way the cookie sectors crumble.
 
fssalaska

fssalaska

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see4 said:
I'm impressed you picked up on that quickly.

Yes, I get why people hate Apple, I'm annoyed with them myself, but I also know how frustrating Windows is, and how limiting it is. In my case I resolve that by running a Windows VM on my iMac and contain any "bad things", lol.

I agree they vendor lock for the layman. But I understand why. The average computer user needs and wants a computer that works and doesnt get congested with bullshit and crash. Apple satisfies that need. Windows based PCs do not.

LinuxMint is fun. So is Ubuntu. I used to run Ubuntu about 10 years ago.

I have to run on NTFS on my shared drives, they are all over 2TB. I'd prefer EXT3 or even FAT, but well.. that's the way the cookie sectors crumble.
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Yes I use linux , ubuntu or mint
 
see4

see4

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fssalaska said:
You must really suck at your job... yes they are, I setup Satellite networks for a living for viasat, what's for a living got to do with you being a dumb ass ?

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/243570-28-hardware-difference-macs < read for once !!!
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Ok dumb dumb, let me explain the why.

Apple uses very specific hardware for a reason, just like they go out of their way to not support Flash, for a very specific reason. Apple products fail about a 100th of the time Windows based PC products do.

I will concede that PCs are getting better in terms of hardware support, but they're not quite there yet. Mainly because of peripheral support. PC needs to support far more peripherals than Apple products, which is why they are on a closed loop hardware support system.
 
fssalaska

fssalaska

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see4 said:
Ok dumb dumb, let me explain the why.

Apple uses very specific hardware for a reason, just like they go out of their way to not support Flash, for a very specific reason. Apple products fail about a 100th of the time Windows based PC products do.

I will concede that PCs are getting better in terms of hardware support, but they're not quite there yet. Mainly because of peripheral support. PC needs to support far more peripherals than Apple products, which is why they are on a closed loop hardware support system.
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I don't care your a retard... Think what you want and be wrong. have fun
 
Unclebaldrick

Unclebaldrick

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see4 said:
lol. I run iOS Mac in my home network because I stream audio and video throughout my entire house on any device without "crashing". I also run iOS because I run a 10 stack VM of various flavors of Linux for the various projects I work on.

I run Debian mostly, but I also run RedHat and Suse. No silly GUIs, just wasted bulk.

iOS is not even remotely close to being described as "rigid". If you know how to get around the command line.
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I was an early adopter of these bitches. Love me my command line. Spent about ten years using UNIX. I remember the first time I saw Windows boot. The guy who set it up, set it up so that it played a Calvin & Hobbes animation. I remember thinking "uh-oh, this is not good" and then I saw my first blue screen of doom seconds later. I have not really felt the same about them since.

My work no longer requires intimate knowledge of a computer so it has become something of a fax machine for me in that I just expect it to work when I want it to. Kind of sad.

I respect your views on Apple hardware though. I am used to being suppounded by idiots with very expensive hardware who don't know how to use more than 2% of their capabilities. Shit, I didn't even know Apple had a command prompt. I didn't think they trusted their users with such a fine tool.
 
see4

see4

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Unclebaldrick said:
I was an early adopter of these bitches. Love me my command line. Spent about ten years using UNIX. I remember the first time I saw Windows boot. The guy who set it up, set it up so that it played a Calvin & Hobbes animation. I remember thinking "uh-oh, this is not good" and then I saw my first blue screen of doom seconds later. I have not really felt the same about them since.

My work no longer requires intimate knowledge of a computer so it has become something of a fax machine for me in that I just expect it to work when I want it to. Kind of sad.

I respect your views on Apple hardware though. I am used to being suppounded by idiots with very expensive hardware who don't know how to use more than 2% of their capabilities. Shit, I didn't even know Apple had a command prompt. I didn't think they trusted their users with such a fine tool.
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iOS is based on BSD. iOS is Linux with a fancy user interface.

Winblows is a shit user interface on top of a shit OS architecture. Though Winblows 10 is getting much better, only a fatal crash every few weeks as opposed to every other day.
 
Unclebaldrick

Unclebaldrick

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see4 said:
iOS is based on BSD. iOS is Linux with a fancy user interface.

Winblows is a shit user interface on top of a shit OS architecture. Though Winblows 10 is getting much better, only a fatal crash every few weeks as opposed to every other day.
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Y'ever bother to read Neal Stephenson's ode to the command prompt? Probably kind of quaint these days. Maybe not though.

http://www.cryptonomicon.com/beginning.html
 
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