M-land Super Grow Lights 300w Replaces HID 1000w

heffe'

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Hi, I am seriously interested in these lights but can't find /get any feedback from anyone w/ experience using them. They are said to produce lumens equal to a 1000w HPS/MH, or 450w LED, w/ only 300w. They produce 96% usuable light compared to HID (16%) w/ running temps only slightly higher than LED's. You can hold your hand on it and not get burned. They say it saves 80% energy and the bulb lasts 100,000 hrs w/ little degredation of lumens. The color spectrum is wide good for veg and flowering. Light wave 680-700nm. This sounds like it could produce some incredible mega grow numbers in the end for gram/watt usage. Please share if you have had any experience. I am setting up my first grow-vertical(U-shape) and expect some great things from these lights. I may have to be the guinea pig to find the answers 4 myself. The lights are pricey $$$($675) but could pay for themselves quickly. Please... help O B 1...
 

super2200

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Hi, I am seriously interested in these lights but can't find /get any feedback from anyone w/ experience using them. They are said to produce lumens equal to a 1000w HPS/MH, or 450w LED, w/ only 300w. They produce 96% usuable light compared to HID (16%) w/ running temps only slightly higher than LED's. You can hold your hand on it and not get burned. They say it saves 80% energy and the bulb lasts 100,000 hrs w/ little degredation of lumens. The color spectrum is wide good for veg and flowering. Light wave 680-700nm. This sounds like it could produce some incredible mega grow numbers in the end for gram/watt usage. Please share if you have had any experience. I am setting up my first grow-vertical(U-shape) and expect some great things from these lights. I may have to be the guinea pig to find the answers 4 myself. The lights are pricey $$$($675) but could pay for themselves quickly. Please... help O B 1...
There were a few posts regarding the LED lights and it was a fairly long thread, you can probably use the search feature to find it. dont worry about brand names just look for LED info as there may be a cheaper one than the M-Land
 

super2200

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actually reading it back says its a replacement for LED lol I am not sure what the hell they are now
 

heffe'

Member
Thanx for the response, but these lights are electro magnetic discharge- not LED's. They are similar to street lights but with a proper spectrum for growing.
 

vertise

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i searched google and its a led light. I dont recommend led cause there wave lengths are much shorter and have a almost impossible time penetrating the lower branches.
 

vertise

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its good if you are growing one plant and you have nothing to cover meaning you can place the light an inch away from the cola. The better part besides the obvious is that a true hps has a much larger coverage area. I have yet to see a led grow that made me the slightest interested.
 

heffe'

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I would only use an LED for cloning, these lights produce as much more penetrating power such as HID. I am designing a vertical grow with the light attached to a light mover, but instead of going back and forth I'm hanging the light on a cable running it thru a pulley and back to the light mover so that the light will raise up an down slowly(20 minutes one direction) putting the intensity of a 1000w HID into every nook and cranny but using only 300w.
 

archaeo

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Under the 'news' tab on the site, it only offers poorly translated chinese :


At present, we develop a new type of grow light: Super grow light, it is our latest product, it is have two good points .

1.Concentrated spectrum which light band was mainly absorbed by plant.
2.To Lower working temperature while working, The most power was changed into emitting light, and improve lifespan of lights.
3.almost no Lumen Depreciation. it will promote the plant grow period.

Not much to go on

 

heffe'

Member
Thanx Archaeo for the link. Someone is selling them on ebay. In the specs it states 15600~16,800lm, but looking closer the specs also state 400w when the auction is for 300w. the lights are available in 200, 300, and 400w, though the seller is only listing 200w & 300w lights for sale. So I'm not sure what the actual lm's are. I will post if I can find it.
 

vertise

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a 600 hps give out 85,000 lumens. had a friend who shipped tires from china under his own brand cause there was no copy right. Said there are alot of product that say one thing and do another esp over seas
 

heffe'

Member
Yes, I agree chinese products vary greatly and it is a concern. Especially when the chinese ad at the manufacturers website is in semi-broken english. I used to work with a chinese sculptor who liked to point out that almost evrything was made in china. Wow, 85,000lm for 600w is alot. But if HID at 85000lm that is only 16% usable means most of that light is wasted~84% which would seem to be a lot. I'm not sure of the math, but there's got to be some comparison there somewhere. Though it's hard to speculate when one can't accurately know whether the specs listed are even correct. This guy selling them (ebay) in oregon, builds custom led's and seems pretty convinced. I hope to find someone who has grown w/ them, but till then the waters are murky.
 
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