LUCAS FORMULA - Hydroponic Grow Journal
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GreenThumbSucker
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If you have any ebb and grow questions dont hesitate to ask.
Hey all, remember the sickly little runt plant that was waaaay behind all the others??
Well, I just harvested it last night, the center bud is so huge I can barely get it in the picture holding it at arms length!! As you can see it is dead stinking ripe!!!
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xceptional
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GreenThumb that's inspiring because i have a retarded looking runt that i am going to be putting in my system tonight or tomorrow and i was wondering if i should just get a new clone instead. as i mentioned a few days ago i was getting a ebb and grow and although i was planning on getting one before i found your journal you sealed the deal! Derk79 is a buddy of mine and we are both using the Ebb and Grow system for the first time starting our first cycles days apart so we will be learning together and probably both be asking you questions!
xceptional
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Hey GreenThumbSucker have you ever had any clogging issues in your Ebb and Grow? if so have you every tried a pre filter around the pump in the res and in the brain? i was thinking about getting one but i didn't know if it would be overkill and more hassle then help.
GreenThumbSucker
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I have never had clogging issues with this system. The pumps all use half inch hose which is too big to clog. Just clean them out really good between crops and when you change out your solution.
GreenThumbSucker
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Just remember, when you first put clones into the system they need to sit for about a week to spread their roots. Put the PPM at 250 - 300 for 7 days. They wont grow much above ground but will spread out their root systems. If you dont do this you will have plants that end up all different sizes in the end which causes problems. Be patient.
Once you have let them idle for 7 days, turn the nutrients up to about 500 for couple days, then 600. About a week later you can go to 700 or 800 and keep it there for the duration of your vegetative cycle. When you turn up the nutrients, it takes about three days and BOOM they take off.
My runt caught up with all the rest and actually ended up being the tallest plant. With hydroponics, it is all about the root system. What you see above ground reflects how big your root system is below ground. If your runt spreads its roots, it will take right off.
"If you have a lot of light,
then you can crank up the load."
"If they have roots,
they can handle nutes."
Tonight I will do a full report on my plants, with full pictures.
GreenThumbSucker
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Plants stretch for about 40% of the time they bud. A 7 week strain will stretch for 2.8 weeks, give or take. An 8 week strain will stretch for 3.2 weeks, give or take.
A few of them, the dynamites and the runt plant, all got about 3'6" tall, bucket included. The others are all about uniformly 2 1/2 feet tall.
If I had to do it over I would have vegged them 3 or 4 days less, they ended up packed in like sardines.
GreenThumbSucker
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Update with pictures:
It has been seven weeks as of today. I have harvested six plants thus far. Two are now drying. I kept four OZ from the Dynamite. Very incredibly potent/resinous strain, would recommend it to anyone. Will report on the other two when they dry.
The rest of the plants have almost stopped using fertilizer. The PPM rises quite a bit every day which tells me they are using water but not food.
The main colas are solid now but still have a little ways to go. They are at that stage where they could finish up in ten days or suddenly ripen in 4 or 5. They haven't grown much in the last week and a half. They just keep getting more and more solid looking as the calyxes swell and they solidify. Only the lower buds are turning hairs now, with very few turning in the main colas. No new pistils though.
I will wait til the hairs are 2/3 turned, perhaps more depending on how they look. I should splurge and get a magnifier.
I am starting to wind down on PPM now, will keep decreasing til they look almost done then drop it to almost nothing the last few days.
The PPM has been consistently rising about 3 tenths every day since flowering started. Every day I knock it down to 5.5 or 5.6
My solution temp has risen 6 degrees. I think this is because I now have six empty holes where plants had been and the solution in the bottom of those empty buckets is warming up a little between floods. I am also running just a single exhaust fan now, so the room is a little bit warmer.
Statistics:
Days flowering: 49
PPM: 700
PH: 5.7
Water temp: 60
Air temp: 77
Humidity: 63
Plants left in system: 9
I have been using a bunch of ONA gel/blocks and have had no problems whatsoever with odor. You have to agitate it everyday or it stops emitting odor. I have a gallon ice cream pail with no lid with about an inch of it in the bottom, It is sitting in front of an oscillating fan on the floor. If I dont stir it every day, I smell slight bud in the house when I wake up in the morning. I have some ONA blocks just inside my air intake. Between all this, there is no smell. ONA is miraculous shit.
Everything is going smoothly. I expect to be finished within ten days.
Here are a bunch of pictures:
Questions? Suggestions? Comments?
It has been seven weeks as of today. I have harvested six plants thus far. Two are now drying. I kept four OZ from the Dynamite. Very incredibly potent/resinous strain, would recommend it to anyone. Will report on the other two when they dry.
The rest of the plants have almost stopped using fertilizer. The PPM rises quite a bit every day which tells me they are using water but not food.
The main colas are solid now but still have a little ways to go. They are at that stage where they could finish up in ten days or suddenly ripen in 4 or 5. They haven't grown much in the last week and a half. They just keep getting more and more solid looking as the calyxes swell and they solidify. Only the lower buds are turning hairs now, with very few turning in the main colas. No new pistils though.
I will wait til the hairs are 2/3 turned, perhaps more depending on how they look. I should splurge and get a magnifier.
I am starting to wind down on PPM now, will keep decreasing til they look almost done then drop it to almost nothing the last few days.
The PPM has been consistently rising about 3 tenths every day since flowering started. Every day I knock it down to 5.5 or 5.6
My solution temp has risen 6 degrees. I think this is because I now have six empty holes where plants had been and the solution in the bottom of those empty buckets is warming up a little between floods. I am also running just a single exhaust fan now, so the room is a little bit warmer.
Statistics:
Days flowering: 49
PPM: 700
PH: 5.7
Water temp: 60
Air temp: 77
Humidity: 63
Plants left in system: 9
I have been using a bunch of ONA gel/blocks and have had no problems whatsoever with odor. You have to agitate it everyday or it stops emitting odor. I have a gallon ice cream pail with no lid with about an inch of it in the bottom, It is sitting in front of an oscillating fan on the floor. If I dont stir it every day, I smell slight bud in the house when I wake up in the morning. I have some ONA blocks just inside my air intake. Between all this, there is no smell. ONA is miraculous shit.
Everything is going smoothly. I expect to be finished within ten days.
Here are a bunch of pictures:
Questions? Suggestions? Comments?
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xceptional
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off of the 4 plants your harvested how much did you get? I'm guessing they are dried because you said you kept 4oz. really looking forward to seeing what your final numbers are!
GreenThumbSucker
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Slightly over 21 oz. I expect to get quite a bit more off of the last plants. One plant has at least 3/4 of a lb on it. Most look between 6 oz and a 1/2 lb each.
xceptional
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wow that's sick you are my hero lol. i just moved my plants from a aero cloner into my ebb and grow today and I'm super excited. I'm following your journal like a bible because if i get your results i couldn't be happier.
MaryzMastaH
Member
How many tablespoons per gallon do u use for your flowering.....I got the same nutes you do.
xceptional
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MaryzMastaH he put all that info in his journal. this is one of the cleanest most detailed journals just go back and read form the beginning you will find the answer.
xceptional
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the first thing i do when i get online is check your journal these days lol. cant wait to see what the end result is!!!!
GreenThumbSucker
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Final update:
Well, I harvested the last nine.
Three days before I began harvesting them, I could tell they were within a few days so I dropped the PPM to 150. Over the next couple of days the shade leaves turned yellow as they used up whatever fertilizer was in them and started cannibalizing themselves. I am confident that whatever ferts they had built up is now used. They should taste nice and sweet.
The last nine plants finished over a four day period.
It will be a week or so before they dry, I have them in a cold 55 degree room with an exaust fan drawing air out, and an oscillating fan blowing away from them to keep the air stirred up.
I will upload pics later, for some reason the file manager keeps failing.
Questions, comments, suggestions?
Well, I harvested the last nine.
Three days before I began harvesting them, I could tell they were within a few days so I dropped the PPM to 150. Over the next couple of days the shade leaves turned yellow as they used up whatever fertilizer was in them and started cannibalizing themselves. I am confident that whatever ferts they had built up is now used. They should taste nice and sweet.
The last nine plants finished over a four day period.
It will be a week or so before they dry, I have them in a cold 55 degree room with an exaust fan drawing air out, and an oscillating fan blowing away from them to keep the air stirred up.
I will upload pics later, for some reason the file manager keeps failing.
Questions, comments, suggestions?
Lovin'JK
Member
This Journal is simply amazing. I am too loooking into an ebb n grow system but was a little discouraged by the price. I was looking at this DWC System but was wondering if my tent temps of 80 degrees would be too hot for the roots and maybe cause rez problems even though my rez is located externally. Do you think I could achieve the same yields and or success with this system? -->
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I was also wondering if the roots get more o2 by constant flood and drain or by dwc w/ bubbles?
Thanks for your great Journal
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I was also wondering if the roots get more o2 by constant flood and drain or by dwc w/ bubbles?
Thanks for your great Journal