Low Pressure Aero build...it has begun!

Here's my solution to rapid rooters and seeds for the aerocloner

Carve out a neoprene collar and wrap the rapid rooter, fitting it snugly in the cloner and ready for sprouting and early veg. They will then move into 3" net pots filled with hydroton

I hope it works lol....Please tell me if theres a reason you think it wont or its just a bad idea lol

diggs99 said:

Ya that was the original plan and it makes sense. What about also dropping pvc legs with sprayers? or you think the manifold ring up top will me more than enough?

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Legs aren't a bad idea

Root rot and stem rot are two different things. Stem rot is from the stump being constantly wet. Its like a tree in a place that is normally dry and then floods, if the area stays flooded for too long the tree dies.

Whether you use a bare root clone, rockwool or rapid rooters you need to make sure the stump stays dry or at least has a chance to dry out.

Airwalker16 said:

Legs aren't a bad idea

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Im gonna try it with legs, see how it goes.

redi jedi said:

Root rot and stem rot are two different things. Stem rot is from the stump being constantly wet. Its like a tree in a place that is normally dry and then floods, if the area stays flooded for too long the tree dies.

Whether you use a bare root clone, rockwool or rapid rooters you need to make sure the stump stays dry or at least has a chance to dry out.

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Fair enough, im gonna try and stay on top of things to avoid root or stem root happening. i expect theres gonna be a learning curve during this first run.

I found keeping the sprayer manifold and sprayers up near the top of the root zone by bottom of the pot worked the best. The sprayers spray downward slightly to soak/spray down as much of the root as possible.
Try to keep roots away from everything...they wrap around anything and everything if they can...when I tried using the bottom area the roots engulfed everything to a point it wasn't hardly able to spray...lol

Mak'er Grow said:

I found keeping the sprayer manifold and sprayers up near the top of the root zone by bottom of the pot worked the best. The sprayers spray downward slightly to soak/spray down as much of the root as possible.
Try to keep roots away from everything...they wrap around anything and everything if they can...when I tried using the bottom area the roots engulfed everything to a point it wasn't hardly able to spray...lol

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Exactly as I was saying. Legs only to be used if you're gonna throw a sprayer on each one, half way down or so. Otherwise, just drill single holes around the top to hold the manifold up by Zip Ties. Just have the zip tie ratchet on the outside and the cinch inside to pull tightly around your PVC. One Hole so you don't have splash coning out 2. If you do it right, the ratchet of the tie will cover the hole from the outside. Make sure it's a big enough hole to fit 2 layers of the tie itself through, but not the ratcheting mechanism.

CAUTION: When I added the plastic bottle I put holes all around (360*s) which meant a lot of solution was splashing up onto the underside of the lid which eventually caused the starter cubes to get soaked, leading to droopy plants (and light tan roots), all because I took too long to replace it with one where the holes were on one side, which I could rotate aiming the holes directly into the solution

Yesterday I made a h2o2 solution and soaked the roots for about an hour, making sure to get h2o2 up into the starter cubes. White roots now. Plants look a little bit better today, and should be 100 later in the day

What should i set my timer at for the newly germinated seeds?

1/5
1/10
1/30

@Airwalker16
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@ anyone who has an opinion lol

diggs99 said:

Here's my solution to rapid rooters and seeds for the aerocloner

Carve out a neoprene collar and wrap the rapid rooter, fitting it snugly in the cloner and ready for sprouting and early veg. They will then move into 3" net pots filled with hydroton

I hope it works lol....Please tell me if theres a reason you think it wont or its just a bad idea lol

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That rooter is gonna get way to wet. you should keep it out of the system for a good 2 weeks before it even goes in the system

Airwalker16 said:

That rooter is gonna get way to wet. you should keep it out of the system for a good 2 weeks before it even goes in the system

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What just growing in a rapid rooter for 2 weeks? Seriously? I already got roots coming out the bottom after one day. I can't imagine what they will be like in 2 weeks lol

So you would just leave them in the tray until they got big enough to withstand the spraying?

diggs99 said:

What just growing in a rapid rooter for 2 weeks? Seriously? I already got roots coming out the bottom after one day. I can't imagine what they will be like in 2 weeks lol

So you would just leave them in the tray until they got big enough to withstand the spraying?

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Ya cause new seedlings withvjust a tap root don't do well. They need some actual roots. Are you really just gonna use collars to hold up your plants? Cause net pots and hydroton would be a lot smarter.

Airwalker16 said:

Ya cause new seedlings withvjust a tap root don't do well. They need some actual roots. Are you really just gonna use collars to hold up your plants? Cause net pots and hydroton would be a lot smarter.

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No I'm using net cups and hydroton

The plan was to pre veg them in the aero cloner and once they got big enough place them in net cup and hydroton and into the veg box.

I hand feed with an eye dropper until they are ready to move into permanent home

diggs99 said:

What should i set my timer at for the newly germinated seeds?

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ive never popped seeds in this setup. id think 1/5 for a few days and then start increasing the off time as the roots fill out

We have 5 above ground.


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@thenasty1

whats your nute nix when they are babies?

I'm using gh micro and bloom(h3ad)
I just read a thread where dude was starting them off with 1ml micro,grow,bloom,silica,tribus - ph'd to 5.8

Seemed excessive lol

diggs99 said:

We have 5 above ground.


@PhatNuggz
@thenasty1

whats your nute nix when they are babies?

I'm using gh micro and bloom(h3ad)
I just read a thread where dude was starting them off with 1ml micro,grow,bloom,silica,tribus - ph'd to 5.8

Seemed excessive lol

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I've always used all 3 of the trio series and calimagic.

Well i went ahead and tossed them in the aerocloner on 1/5 schedule. Only the very bottom of the rapid rooter is in the cloner and getting wet, altho im sure theres some wickng action also going on. I hope this works and i dont just kill them lol

We will see how it goes i guess .

diggs99 said:

Well i went ahead and tossed them in the aerocloner on 1/5 schedule. Only the very bottom of the rapid rooter is in the cloner and getting wet, altho im sure theres some wickng action also going on. I hope this works and i dont just kill them lol

We will see how it goes i guess .

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Seedlings need almost no water man. The more water, the less the roots care to grow and search outwards.

diggs99 said:

whats your nute nix when they are babies?

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i run around .8 ec (3-1-4 npk) for seedlings. they dont really eat much until they get more established, but i dont get any burn from it

Just spent 20 hours without power, made me realize how much i like growing in pots lol