Louie XIII OG in Dual Monster Plant System (3rd Scrog)

Robert4budz

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Would someone mind putting up a recipe and instructions? Lol.
This is the thread https://www.rollitup.org/dwc-bubbleponics/361430-dwc-root-slime-cure-aka.html

Here's instructions ...

Several root conditions will cause a slimy build up; doesn't mean you have the brown slime. Common root disease is almost always caused by improper res conditions, and they improve greatly when those conditions are corrected. This isn't true of the slime. When to suspect brown slime algae is when you are doing everything right and still can't get rid of it. People who get this try the normal stuff... More bubbles in the water, cool res temps, and h202 treatments. The slime may appear to be gone at first, but comes back strong in as little as 12-36 hours. It starts out subtle like a clear coating of mucus on the roots with no odor. Plants often still appear healthy for a while, but all root production stops. In a very short time it will cover the entire root base and become thicker and sometimes turns yellow. Eventually it strangles the roots which causes pythium to set in, and at that point turns brown and finally has an odor.

The treatment is to clean up and sterilize the root base, and then populate the water with beneficial microbes. Simply running a continuous sterilizing agent such as SM-90, Zone, ect will almost certainly end with the slime as the winner. Some people have had luck running bleach or physan 20 continuously in the water, but most do not want there plants soaking in these particular chemicals. Making a microbe tea is cheap and easy, and IMO the proper way to fight this slime in a perpetual DWC garden.

Clean up the root base as well as possible. Best thing to do, if you can, is hold the plant over the sink and use the sprayer to vigorously rinse the roots, trying to get all the dead roots and gunk to slough off. It's also okay to give the dying roots a slight tug to see if they come off. Now let the roots soak in a mixture of whatever sterilizing agent you have. Physan 20 works great. This is a good time to sterilize any equipment and give the res a good scrub. After a few hours, no more than 12, of soaking in the solution rinse the roots really really well again, prepare a fresh res, and inoculate the res with beneficial microbes. Wait another 12 hours before adding nutes.

*** The smaller your roots, the less likely the are to survive a strong h202 treatment. In my experience using h202 will increase your recovery time.

Once the slime is gone be sure to practice proper res maintenance, which includes keeping any type of organic material out of the res. Trying to sterilize the res water is often a losing battle. In fact, since most hydro sterilizers fail to kill this stuff, when you sterilize the water you are removing competing microbes and opening the field to slime. There are people who use RO filters and then run their water through a UV sterilizer and still end up with the slime. The answer always seems to be beneficial microbes.

Below is my previous introduction to preparing and applying a microbe tea.


In DWC the roots sit in water constantly putting them at huge risk for disease. Some people have great luck using nothing at all. Others find sterilizing products keep their roots white, but a few of us have found that even with proper res maintenance and doing everything right, we still get a slimy build up on the roots. This is when a microbe tea can really make a difference by robbing the slime of housing, food, and actually attacking it.

By making a microbe tea with a diverse selection of organisms you will have a super tonic for you res that will ward off nasty gunk and build up while at the same time keeping your roots stimulated and growing. Best of all it can be made for just pennies per batch.

Ok so we wont be starting from scratch. You have to buy a few products. But instead of using the products directly in the res, you will be breeding them in a tea. This way, you can use a fraction of the regular dose and make your products last much longer. Plus, you will end up with a freshly active tea that is more diverse than anything you can buy on the market.

Aquashield ($12) The product composition consists of: Bacillus subtilis, Paenibacillus polymxa, Bacillus circulans, and Bacillus amyloliquefaciens. This gives you a base population of beneficial bacteria. (Aquashield can be replaced by any inoculation that contains bacillus bacteria.)

ZHO Powder ($10) The product composition consists of: Glomus intradices, Glomus aggregatum, Glomus etunicatum, Glomus mosseae, Trichoderma harzianum, and Trichoderma koningii. This gives you a base populartion of beneficial fungi. (ZHO can be replaced by any inoculation that contains myco fungi)

Ancient Forest ($14) - Soil amendment provides a high diversity of microorganisms, including more than 35,000 species of bacteria and over 5,000 species of fungi. (AF can be replaced by any earth worm casting)

EDIT* Mycogrow soluble is the cheapest and most diverse inoculant we have found. It can replace everything here except the ancient forest.


The recipe is really simple. Start with non-chlorinated water. I make 2 gallons at a time, but you can easily adjust the additives for whatever amount you wish to make. Now put the water into a bucket and throw in a couple air stones. The more air the better. You want the water to be almost turbulent from the bubbles. Now, add 15-30ml of aquashield and about 1/4-1/2 scoop of the ZHO powder. You will be breeding these into the billions so it doesn't really matter how much you start with, just don't overdo it. Now take an old sock or pantyhose and fill it with about 2 handfuls of EWC or Ancient Forest. Tie off the sock and place it in the water above an air stone, or better yet, feed an air stone down into the sock itself. If you want, you can just throw the EWC directly into the water and strain it out later with cheesecloth or even an aquarium net. Next, add about a tablespoon of molasses to wake up the microbes and give them something to eat. We will only be feeding the microbes in this tea; never add food for the microbes to the res itself. It's okay if the bennies in the res starve. You will be replacing them every few days. Now let the tea bubble at room tempeture for 48 hours. It can be used after 24, but will be more active and diverse at 48. If you use EWC you will probably notice a foam eventually, this is normal. After 48 hours you can store the tea in the fridge where it will stay fresh for about 10 days. Once it starts to go bad it will develop an odor. If you ever detect an odor from your tea, throw it out and make a new batch. Fresh tea can have a range of smells from earthy to mossy to shroomy. Bad tea smells like gym socks, fecal matter, or decay.

Initially, add about 1 cup to your res for every gallon of water, and then add 1 cup total every 3 days after. If you can, pour a little over the base of the stalk to inoculate the root crown. Your water might get a little cloudy but your roots will stay white and stimulated. When you use tea and practice proper res maintenance you can feel confident your roots will be healthy. By multiplying the microbes this way your products should last a great deal longer. Once you have eradicated slime and simply want protection from future outbreaks, adjust the tea dosage to 1 cup per 10 gallons about once per week.

If you are interested in why the tea works, or what products you may use for substitution, continue reading the rest of the thread. It is a journey I took with others to learn a great more about the tea. If you want to see how I use this tea in a cloner, jump to here.

***In an attempt to address frequent issues which bloat the thread

You can substitute just about any product you want. Any EWC will give you a good base of microbes. Any product or combo of products which contain mycos, bacillus, and trichoderma will do the trick. Don't worry about matching my exact ingredients. The exception is AN microbe products. Stay away from AN microbe products!


If you notice a dark sort of slime form after you treat with tea, stay the course. As long as you see new shoots growing you are on your way to recovery. The after-slime is harmless and will not expand or stall roots. New root tips are what you want to see.

Do not use tea with h202, sm-90, Zone or any type of sterilizing product. Do not filter tea beyond 400 microns.

If you have slime attacking plants with very small roots, adding housing to your res like a lava rock or koi pond mat will make a big difference. Place the housing in your tea brew for the duration and then move it to your res.

No one has reported sprayers clogging from using regular tea. But, if you are concerned you can also try aquashield by itself without brewing. High pressure nozzles will kill most microbes, medium pressure and simple sprayers are fine.

Does this get me some Stephie shots :hump:(or any one) without little purple flowers ? :confused:

By the way .. been gone for a bit .. so what happend to Fem Cult ??
 

lordjin

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Look! It's the incredible floating plants!

Oh, man. What an ordeal it's been getting Wordpress installed on my Mac. What a bitch. First I had to upgrade my system.

Then I had to install a third party app to make Wordpress run on the Mac platform (that's what required the system upgrade). Then finally I installed Wordpress. And it works. And we're not talking push-button installation. Oh, no. We're talking editing of text codes in php files. Not bad for a stoned monkey with one eye on his grow engine, huh?

See? So it's not like I was dragging my ass over nothing. This was worthy of dread, but I did it at last.

It's not live yet because I have to sort some domain details out with Godaddy. There seems to be a mixup with Feminized Culture (remember that? good times.) and Green Gurlz. In my stoned haze, I seem to have registered both domains but have a hosting service for Feminized and not Green Gurlz. So as soon as I get that figured out, it's smut city... with class, of course.

I'm playing around with Wordpress now. It's really cool.

I look forward to designing a custom header image. Y'all are in for a treat.
 

Robert4budz

Active Member
:bigjoint: Splif for ya mate ! Didn't realize the Mac compatibility curve came into effect on blog start up .. eeesh .. I dislike installing software. Makes me feel like I'm at an international convention without a translator.

:clap: Bravo on another even bush ! Messy bushes don't get kissed ..

Oldluck ... what'a garden. Mad props to do'n it that well outside. How do you keep the bugs away ?
 

Mohican

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Dude, where are you at that you keep getting these African strains Mo?

I get my seeds from Holy Smoke through Attitude. I wanted some pure Sativa because I am a Masochist! The MozPoz is the one that has the fruity trait. I hope I can get some pollen and cross my OG MozPoz with some OG Kush :)


Cheers,
Mo
 

lordjin

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And on the topic of even bushes, I'd like to report that my blog is almost ready to go. I'm just gonna keep the layout real simple, clean, and easy to read.

All my older photos will be presented minus those pesky little flowers.

I'll talk about all the weed I've grown in addition to the weed I'm growing.

I'll share all my deep thoughts concerning theory and application... all heavily illustrated for your viewing pleasure.

The Godaddy rep was very helpful. And as long as I'm not showing child porn or rape, I should be fine she said. My "philosophizing" on the other hand...

So all my classics uncensored, new models continually added...

All this and growing...





Hope to see you there soon!
 

Mohican

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Welcome back my friends to the show that never ends

[video=youtube_share;UeQsZOQqO6I]http://youtu.be/UeQsZOQqO6I[/video]


Cheers,
Mo
 

lordjin

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Welcome back my friends to the show that never ends

[video=youtube_share;UeQsZOQqO6I]http://youtu.be/UeQsZOQqO6I[/video]


Cheers,
Mo
OMG. I know this song. But I started listening to dino-rock at a very early age... so I'm not that, that old. Lol.
 

lordjin

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[h=1]Lady Gaga & Weed: Singer Lights Up On Stage, Praises 'Wondrous Marijuana' (VIDEO)[/h]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/19/lady-gaga-weed-singer-wondrous-marijuana_n_1897486.html?utm_hp_ref=entertainment
Don't get me wrong, this doesn't mean I'm gonna start liking Lady Gaga (I have my tough guy image to preserve), but I hate her just a little less after this.

Skip to 2:18... Unless you actually want to watch her performance... didn't think so.
[video=youtube;O_jkCURgAiA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_jkCURgAiA&feature=player_embedded#![/video]
 

lordjin

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Marijuana And Cancer: Scientists Find Cannabis Compound Stops Metastasis In Aggressive Cancers

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/19/marijuana-and-cancer_n_1898208.html?utm_hp_ref=marijuana
I know how easily your mouse-clicking fingers get sore, so I included the whole article accompanied by some of my photos! Enjoy!
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A pair of scientists at California Pacific Medical Center in San Francisco has found that a compound derived from marijuana could stop metastasis in many kinds of aggressive cancer, potentially altering the fatality of the disease forever.

"It took us about 20 years of research to figure this out, but we are very excited," said Pierre Desprez, one of the scientists behind the discovery, to The Huffington Post. "We want to get started with trials as soon as possible."

The San Francisco Chronicle first reported on the finding, which has already undergone both laboratory and animal testing, and is awaiting permission for clinical trials in humans.

Desprez, a molecular biologist, spent decades studying ID-1, the gene that causes cancer to spread. Meanwhile, fellow researcher Sean McAllister was studying the effects of Cannabidiol, or CBD, a non-toxic, non-psychoactive chemical compound found in the cannabis plant.

Finally, the pair collaborated, combining CBD and cells containing high levels of ID-1 in a petri dish.

"What we found was that his Cannabidiol could essentially 'turn off' the ID-1," Desprez told HuffPost. The cells stopped spreading and returned to normal.

"We likely would not have found this on our own," he added. "That's why collaboration is so essential to scientific discovery."

Desprez and McAllister first published a paper about the finding in 2007. Since then, their team has found that CBD works both in the lab and in animals. And now, they've found even more good news.

"We started by researching breast cancer," said Desprez. "But now we've found that Cannabidiol works with many kinds of aggressive cancers--brain, prostate--any kind in which these high levels of ID-1 are present."

Desprez hopes that clinical trials will begin immediately.

"We've found no toxicity in the animals we've tested, and Cannabidiol is already used in humans for a variety of other ailments," he said. Indeed, the compound is used to relieve anxiety and nausea, and, since it is non-psychoactive, does not cause the "high" associated with THC.

While marijuana advocates will surely praise the discovery, Desprez explained that it's not so easy as just lighting up.

"We used injections in the animal testing and are also testing pills," he said. "But you could never get enough Cannabidiol for it to be effective just from smoking."

Furthermore, the team has started synthesizing the compound in the lab instead of using the plant in an effort to make it more potent.

"It's a common practice," explained Desprez. "But hopefully it will also keep us clear of any obstacles while seeking approval."
 

lordjin

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lordjin

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Well, it looks like my Czech pen pal, Jenni, is still at it. Here's a photo shot earlier this year that she just posted. I'm learning way more about the work visa process than I expected. I'm so tempted to ask her to marry me. Lol.


Edit:
Dreaming of Prague.
I give my heart away too easily. Lol. Here's Jenni posing in a quaint town square in Prague. We're having a little trouble figuring out how to get a work visa for her. It's not like in her student days, and they (consular affairs) frown on models flying out for a shoot and stuff like that. What to do? What to do? I jokingly asked her to marry me. Lol.

Y'know, I don't travel nearly enough. And I've always wanted to see Prague.
 

lordjin

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I said jokingly, "The other possibility is that I can fly out to Prague and marry you." But then I added lol just kidding.

I think she may have missed the lol just kidding part due to the language barrier. The scary thing? She's gonna talk to her friends about it. I don't know if this chick is serious... am I? Stay tuned for more.

Edit: This photographer doesn't know what he's doing. That back light isn't doing anything but creating a weird glare on her chest. Sorry, couldn't help it.
 

AzCannaMan

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That girl is as close to a 10 as they come! You would be the most insane guy in the world if you didn't do it if she agrees. If she says yes and you decide against it for moral reasons I understand, tell you what I'll do:

I would be willing to take one for the team here and incur all expenses to go fly out there & marry her myself, bring her back, and we'll come over to LA regularly so you can shoot my wifey. Deal? You wont even have to pay her mwah hahaha
 
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