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Lost in the sploogefest.... Holder on his way to prison

beenthere

New Member
The F&F argument is laughable because of it's distinct partisanship. It's like the whole Teabagger protests over taxes.

If you're bitching about F&F and weren't bitching years ago about Wide Receiver then youre either a hypocrite, uninformed or both.
I highly doubt anyone on this forum knew Wide Receiver even existed before Fast & Furious made the headlines.
Add in the fact Wide Receiver never caused the deaths of federal law enforcement officers and was ended two years before the Obama administration took office, it looking like you are the partisanship hypocrite.
 

nontheist

Well-Known Member
I highly doubt anyone on this forum knew Wide Receiver even existed before Fast & Furious made the headlines.
Add in the fact Wide Receiver never caused the deaths of federal law enforcement officers and was ended two years before the Obama administration took office, it looking like you are the partisanship hypocrite.
Wide Receiver was a smaller operations that if I am correct was a co-op with mexican government and using gps devices in the guns.
[h=3]Fate of F&F walked guns[/h] Since the end of Operation Fast and Furious, related firearms have continued to be discovered in criminal hands. As reported in September 2011, the Mexican government stated that an undisclosed number of guns found at about 170 crime scenes were linked to Fast and Furious.[SUP][37][/SUP] U.S. Representative Darrell Issa (R–CA–49) estimated that more than 200 Mexicans were killed by guns linked to the operation.[SUP][38][/SUP] Reflecting on the operation, Attorney General Eric Holder said that the United States government is "...losing the battle to stop the flow of illegal guns to Mexico,"[SUP][39][/SUP] and that the effects of Operation Fast and Furious will most likely to continue to be felt for years, as more walked guns appear at Mexican crime scenes.[SUP][40][/SUP]
In April 2011, a large cache of weapons, 40 traced to Fast and Furious but also including military-grade weapons difficult to obtain legally in the US such as an anti-aircraft machine gun and grenade launcher, was found in the home of Jose Antonio Torres Marrufo, a prominent Sinaloa Cartel member, in Ciudad Juárez, Mexico. Torres Marrufo was indicted, but evaded law enforcement for a brief time.[SUP][41][/SUP][SUP][42][/SUP] Finally, on February 4, 2012 Marrufo was arrested by the Mexican Police.[SUP][43][/SUP]
On May 29, 2011 four Mexican Federal Police helicopters attacked a cartel compound, where they were met with heavy fire, including from a .50 caliber rifle. According to a report from the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, this rifle is likely linked to Fast and Furious.[SUP][2][/SUP]
There have been questions raised over a possible connection between Fast and Furious and the death of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agent Jaime Zapata on February 15, 2011.[SUP][44][/SUP][SUP][45][/SUP] The gun used to kill Zapata was purchased by Otilio Osorio in the Dallas/Fort Worth Metroplex, Texas[SUP][46][/SUP] (outside the area of responsibility for the ATF Phoenix field division[SUP][47][/SUP] which conducted Fast and Furious), and then smuggled into Mexico. Congressional investigators have stated that Osorio was known by the ATF to be a straw purchaser months before he purchased the gun used to kill Zapata, leading them to question ATF surveillance tactics[SUP][46][/SUP] and to suspect a Texas-based operation similar to Fast and Furious.[SUP][48][/SUP] In addition to Otilio Osorio, a Texas-based drug and gun trafficker, Manuel Barba, was involved trafficking another of the guns recovered in the Zapata shooting. The timeline of this case, called "Baytown Crew", shows guns were allowed to walk during surveillance that began June 7, 2010. On August 20, 2010 Barba received a rifle later recovered in the Zapata ambush and sent it with nine others to Mexico. The warrant for Barba's arrest was issued February 14, 2011, the day before Zapata was shot.[SUP][49][/SUP] On January 30, 2012, Barba, who claimed to be working with Los Zetas in illegally exporting at least 44 weapons purchased through straw buyers, was sentenced to 100 months in prison.[SUP][50][/SUP]
 

Ringsixty

Well-Known Member
The way I see it .... The Contempt of Congress was the right thing to do.
Neither you , me, Steven Segal or the President is ABOVE THE LAW.
That goes for Mr. Holder too.
I don't know how most people feel. But, this shit F&F. Has become a political foot ball.

Just give up the Docs.

What you hiding??

The Terry family and Americans need to know. Who was responsible.
 

JustAnotherHead

New Member
The way I see it .... The Contempt of Congress was the right thing to do.
Neither you , me, Steven Segal or the President is ABOVE THE LAW.
That goes for Mr. Holder too.
I don't know how most people feel. But, this shit F&F. Has become a political foot ball.

Just give up the Docs.

What you hiding??

The Terry family and Americans need to know. Who was responsible.

I dunno man. As a new member of the liberal party. I think that the law doesn't apply to Holder. He's black. It's just a witch hunt because he's black.
 

nontheist

Well-Known Member
After Contempt – Holder’s DOJ Won’t Investigate Holder. imagine that.....

But the House also passed a civil contempt citation -- meaning the GOP can go to court to try and get the documents.
The GOP's prospects for success in a lawsuit are uncertain.

I am really having a hard time believing that a national security concern is in a gun smuggling case, unless we were trying to destabilize Mexico or something. I feel its over, its done now show us who the hell knew and who was in charge.
 

kelly4

Well-Known Member
lol...kinda sad but funny at the same time. Like when one of my dogs was a puppy and got himself trapped in a over-turned clothes basket...Poor poor puppy as I laughed my ass off
LOL! Then that puppy grew up and rubbed his ass on your pillow.
 

kelly4

Well-Known Member
Is that what your boyfriend told you happened after he wiped his cock with your curtains?
Awwww....You still mad? That's cute.

You sure do talk about fire fighters and cock a lot. Leave me out of it, ya freakin perv.
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
After posting a picture of one of your pay stubs as proof of your federal income tax rate, I'd be embarrassed to question anyone else's intellect! LOL
Consider, for a moment the sorrow in the eyes of a CEO who’s just found out that his end-of-year bonus is only going to be a paltry $2.3 million.“It felt like a slap in the face. Imagine what it would feel like just before Christmas to find out that you’re going to be forced to scrape by on your standard $8.4 million compensation package alone. Imagine what is was like to have to look into my daughter’s face and tell her that I couldn’t afford to both buy her a dollar sign shaped island and hire someone to chew her food from now on, too. To put her in that situation of having to choose… She’s only a child for God’s sake.”It doesn’t have to be this way. Thanks to federal subsidies from taxpayers like you, CEO’s like G. Allen Andreas of Archer Daniels Midland was able to take home almost $14 million in executive compensation last year. But he’s one of the lucky ones. There are still corporations out there that actually have to provide goods and services to their consumers in order to survive. They need your help.For just $93 billion a year the federal government is able to provide a better life for these CEO’s and their families. That’s less than the cost of 240 million cups of coffee a day. Won’t you help a needy corporation today?
 

MellowFarmer

Well-Known Member
Seriously do not fuck with me is Holder getting his? How about the Bushes, Cheney, the Clintons? Are we finally free?
 

nontheist

Well-Known Member
Consider, for a moment the sorrow in the eyes of a CEO who’s just found out that his end-of-year bonus is only going to be a paltry $2.3 million.“It felt like a slap in the face. Imagine what it would feel like just before Christmas to find out that you’re going to be forced to scrape by on your standard $8.4 million compensation package alone. Imagine what is was like to have to look into my daughter’s face and tell her that I couldn’t afford to both buy her a dollar sign shaped island and hire someone to chew her food from now on, too. To put her in that situation of having to choose… She’s only a child for God’s sake.”It doesn’t have to be this way. Thanks to federal subsidies from taxpayers like you, CEO’s like G. Allen Andreas of Archer Daniels Midland was able to take home almost $14 million in executive compensation last year. But he’s one of the lucky ones. There are still corporations out there that actually have to provide goods and services to their consumers in order to survive. They need your help.For just $93 billion a year the federal government is able to provide a better life for these CEO’s and their families. That’s less than the cost of 240 million cups of coffee a day. Won’t you help a needy corporation today?
Unclebuck are you mad about how bad you have it? Or how good everyone else does? lol
 

StevenSD420

Active Member
So while public education goes to the shits and our streets continue to crumble... this is what our tax money is paying for? Republicans to go to a civil court since nothing else worked? Fuck government bullshit
 
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