Lost ALL my ventilation to Power Surge

Bluehillsmoker

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Ok so I had 2 Inline duct fans, one regular circulation fan. Yesterday my electricity in the house was acting weird, it was going low and getting higher for some reason. I cant call the city to make a complaint until Monday. I check out the grow show to find out, NONE of my fans are working, and the window AC unit that was only plugged up, does not come on. What the hell is going on, I have small knowledge on electricity, so I never encountered something like this. Anybody know whats going on?
 

ricky1lung

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Is it possible you just tripped a breaker? Are you sure it was a power surge and it is all blown?
 

Bluehillsmoker

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I moved all three fans to a different room, tested them on a plug vs a regular box fan. They really dont work!!, Its fucking weird and SCARY as hell!
 

ricky1lung

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That sucks man. Gonna need to grab a surge protector for your next run.
If you call the power Co, you may be able to make a claim for lost "appliances".
 

Bluehillsmoker

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Officially I suffered a "Brown Out". Lost 2 -120cfm Exhaust fans, my 8000btu AC, and my oscillating flower room fan. Found out it was not only happening at my house!! It was crazy, wikipedia brown out, I used to work with electricians, never heard of it.
 

Bluehillsmoker

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And yea they are going to have to pay me back for lost "appliances" because I also lost a TV. The lights were getting as bright as the sun, they replaced the transformer and a couple of lines this morning. I should be good, and my AC WAS SURGE PROTECTED, SO WAS ONE OF THE INLINE FANS. They still fried, the AC was not even on, I watched the lights get bright and fry my router while it was surge protected to. It was a freak accident for real
 

PurpleBuz

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Officially I suffered a "Brown Out". Lost 2 -120cfm Exhaust fans, my 8000btu AC, and my oscillating flower room fan. Found out it was not only happening at my house!! It was crazy, wikipedia brown out, I used to work with electricians, never heard of it.
And did you not install surge protectors on anything?
I run 90% of my electrical equipment under some sort of surge protection at all times. My computers are all under short term battery backup.

Some of the cheaper inline fans do not run well at lower voltages. They hum a lot when using speed controllers. and will actually fail on lower speeds.
Often they caution at running less than half speed. I'm pretty sure those fans will burn out under extended brown out conditions.
 

PurpleBuz

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And yea they are going to have to pay me back for lost "appliances" because I also lost a TV. The lights were getting as bright as the sun, they replaced the transformer and a couple of lines this morning. I should be good, and my AC WAS SURGE PROTECTED, SO WAS ONE OF THE INLINE FANS. They still fried, the AC was not even on, I watched the lights get bright and fry my router while it was surge protected to. It was a freak accident for real
nasty shit, curious which\what type of surge protectors failed?
 

polyarcturus

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during a brown out the voltage drops. this bypasses what a surge protector does(it does the opposite) so having a surge protector is no help in this case.

sorry for you loss man.
 

Figong

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during a brown out the voltage drops. this bypasses what a surge protector does(it does the opposite) so having a surge protector is no help in this case.

sorry for you loss man.
Agreed, brownouts can be very nasty for electronics!
 

ricky1lung

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And yea they are going to have to pay me back for lost "appliances" because I also lost a TV. The lights were getting as bright as the sun, they replaced the transformer and a couple of lines this morning. I should be good, and my AC WAS SURGE PROTECTED, SO WAS ONE OF THE INLINE FANS. They still fried, the AC was not even on, I watched the lights get bright and fry my router while it was surge protected to. It was a freak accident for real
One thing to keep in mind.

This same thing happened to my brother he lost a fridge and a freezer (why I knew about the "appliances") they replaced those but after a couple of months
his 60inch tv and a new pc died. He wasnt able to claim those as his claim was already settled.

The tv and pc were both a few months old so the brownout/surge whatever really killed the life of other stuff that didnt immediately die.
 

westom1

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Yea The fans were the first things to go. Yes I have surge protectors on almost everything
Your surge protector did exactly what its spec numbers said it would do. Unfortunately, too many recommended devices without even reading those numbers. Those recommendations were just as useless. Those protectors only claim to protect from a type of anomaly that typically causes no damage.

Apparently your voltages were varying. Incandescent lamps changed (increase or decrease) intensity. That indicated a serious electrical problem. One common reason is called open neutral.

Obviously, nothing (surge protector, fuse, etc) was going to protect from an open neutral. However the building's earth ground might have averted even more serious damage (ie a house fire). Only a homeowner is responsible for inspecting and maintaining that earth ground.

Now, brownouts do not damage electronics. But are potentially harmful to motorized appliances. Protecting motors is why utilities regulate line voltage. Voltage should be so stable that incandescent bulbs do not change intensity. So that electric motors are not at risk. Major voltage variations do not damage electronics.

Excessive voltage (incandescent bulbs get brighter) can cause electronics damage. But again, that sentence provides no numbers. So it was just as useless as other replies. 120 volts rising to 150 volts can cause significant bulb brightening. And eventually cause electronics to fail. However, the surge protector says on its box what it will do. It will ignore all AC voltages (remain inert, do nothing) until voltages exceed 330 volts. What does it do for 150 volts? Nothing. Ignores it. Numbers provided with every protector say same.

Solution to protecting motors was to get the problem fixed ASAP as soon as lights were changing intensity. If not, well, you just learned what happens when a failure was all but reporting itself and was not immediately fixed.

 
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