• Here is a link to the full explanation: https://rollitup.org/t/welcome-back-did-you-try-turning-it-off-and-on-again.1104810/

Looking for some solid indicas

Beansly

RIU Bulldog
Never knew much about genetics, maybe could say I don't know anything, so explain to me the different strain crosses of NL.
Right now have skunk x NL and NL medicnal mix.

Thanks
Sure man. I've read a lot on Northern Lights but I don't have much hands on experience with it (I grew Jack Herrer, but it only has 25% NL in it).
I read a lot of stuff online written by breeders and such so my knowledge is based on only that. Maybe it's flawed, but you try getting a story about the origins of a particular strain that is 100% factual...
Today, there are no available forms of the original form of northern light left. According the most reputable sources, the original was grown by a man called "The Indian" on an island off the coast of Seattle, WA. The female cuts were labeled #1-#11, with #5 being the best of the bunch and #1 a close second. The cuts were given to Nevil Shoenemaker (Then of "The Seed Bank" now known as Sensi Seeds) who then took them to Holland and refined them and made them commercially available to the world. He began making crosses with NL such as the still famous NL#5 X Haze, that became some of the most popular strains of the time and even still now.
It's unclear how the seeds and hybrids were made as the NL cuts were all female. Here is a short excerpt from a article at Seedsman;

"How exactly these new seeds came to be is unclear but apparently Neville Schoenmaker used the plants that he got from the Indian to create new hybrids by further crossing them to some males of Afghani origin. He might have acquired them from the same source as the females but the Northern Lights males were never labeled, so their history remains unclear. The best guess is that Neville Schoenmaker created the new seeds by further hybridizing and inbreeding the plants that he acquired from the Indian to his old stock. Northern Lights #1 was described as a true breeding Afghani IBL (inbred line), suggesting that it contained none of the Thai Sativa that was later incorporated into some of the Northern Lights strains. At what point the Thai Sativa was infused into the genetic lineage is however unclear. Most likely it was bred into the Northern Lights #2 hybrid at some point. Regardless of their origin or genetic makeup, two particular males labeled Northern Lights #1 and Northern Lights #2 are clearly mentioned as the fathers of many new plants in a Seed Bank catalogue from the 1980’s"


Today, the original NL #5 is no longer available in it's pure form. But hybrids made with the original NL genetics are still available.
A Northern Lights #1-Hindu Kush hybrid is offered by Dutch Passion as "Oasis." There is some NL#2 in Honey B from the Flying Dutchman.
The NL males produced some famous off springs such as Big Bud, Skunk #1, Hash Plant, Haze and Swazi. In fact, NL is probably responsible for more potent crosses than just about any other strain.
The closest representations of the original Northern Light #5 mother are offered by Sensi Seed, and are Shiva Skunk, Silver Pearl and Jack Herrer. Also, THSeeds offers a nice NL#2 called Closet Queen.
BCSC offers a NL#5, but as the original NL#5 was a clone only female, it's likely that it was hybridized with some kind of afghani or hindu kush.
Sensi offers a seed called only Northern Light. It's unclear which parents were used to create these seeds, but considering they have the original genetics, it seems like whatever they did, it's probably legit.
Northern Lights is one of the cornerstones in cannabis breeding today. Any grower would be lucky to work with this plant someday.

Sources:
http://www.seedsman.com/en/origins-of-northern-lights/
https://growguide.opengrow.com/Main_Page
various other internet sources
 

plantvision

Active Member
Sure man. I've read a lot on Northern Lights but I don't have much hands on experience with it (I grew Jack Herrer, but it only has 25% NL in it).
I read a lot of stuff online written by breeders and such so my knowledge is based on only that. Maybe it's flawed, but you try getting a story about the origins of a particular strain that is 100% factual...
Today, there are no available forms of the original form of northern light left. According the most reputable sources, the original was grown by a man called "The Indian" on an island off the coast of Seattle, WA. The female cuts were labeled #1-#11, with #5 being the best of the bunch and #1 a close second. The cuts were given to Nevil Shoenemaker (Then of "The Seed Bank" now known as Sensi Seeds) who then took them to Holland and refined them and made them commercially available to the world. He began making crosses with NL such as the still famous NL#5 X Haze, that became some of the most popular strains of the time and even still now.
It's unclear how the seeds and hybrids were made as the NL cuts were all female. Here is a short excerpt from a article at Seedsman;

"How exactly these new seeds came to be is unclear but apparently Neville Schoenmaker used the plants that he got from the Indian to create new hybrids by further crossing them to some males of Afghani origin. He might have acquired them from the same source as the females but the Northern Lights males were never labeled, so their history remains unclear. The best guess is that Neville Schoenmaker created the new seeds by further hybridizing and inbreeding the plants that he acquired from the Indian to his old stock. Northern Lights #1 was described as a true breeding Afghani IBL (inbred line), suggesting that it contained none of the Thai Sativa that was later incorporated into some of the Northern Lights strains. At what point the Thai Sativa was infused into the genetic lineage is however unclear. Most likely it was bred into the Northern Lights #2 hybrid at some point. Regardless of their origin or genetic makeup, two particular males labeled Northern Lights #1 and Northern Lights #2 are clearly mentioned as the fathers of many new plants in a Seed Bank catalogue from the 1980’s"


Today, the original NL #5 is no longer available in it's pure form. But hybrids made with the original NL genetics are still available.
A Northern Lights #1-Hindu Kush hybrid is offered by Dutch Passion as "Oasis." There is some NL#2 in Honey B from the Flying Dutchman.
The NL males produced some famous off springs such as Big Bud, Skunk #1, Hash Plant, Haze and Swazi. In fact, NL is probably responsible for more potent crosses than just about any other strain.
The closest representations of the original Northern Light #5 mother are offered by Sensi Seed, and are Shiva Skunk, Silver Pearl and Jack Herrer. Also, THSeeds offers a nice NL#2 called Closet Queen.
BCSC offers a NL#5, but as the original NL#5 was a clone only female, it's likely that it was hybridized with some kind of afghani or hindu kush.
Sensi offers a seed called only Northern Light. It's unclear which parents were used to create these seeds, but considering they have the original genetics, it seems like whatever they did, it's probably legit.
Northern Lights is one of the cornerstones in cannabis breeding today. Any grower would be lucky to work with this plant someday.

Sources:
http://www.seedsman.com/en/origins-of-northern-lights/
https://growguide.opengrow.com/Main_Page
various other internet sources

Thank you, great info, gets sent to my journal.
Tried to rep you, but will have to wait till I give some out to others first.
Thanks again.
 

Beansly

RIU Bulldog
Hey no problem.
Pretty much if you order from Mr. Nice Seeds, Sensi Seeds, T.H.Seeds, DNA/Reserva Privada, or Soma Seeds you'll be ok.
And make sure you order regular seeds not feminized seeds. You'll thank me later when your not having to throw out a plan you worked so hard on ( ...I said hard-on) because it hermied.
 

Learning2Hydro

Active Member
I read Jack Herer is tough to grow. Is that true? I bought some a while back and would love to be able to do it on my own one day...sooner rather than later. ;)
 

Learning2Hydro

Active Member
And make sure you order regular seeds not feminized seeds. You'll thank me later when your not having to throw out a plan you worked so hard on ( ...I said hard-on) because it hermied.
I've read this several times now. Me and my ignorant ass thought feminized would be great since you don't get males. Can you explain it in a nutshell? I just hate the thought of paying so much for 5 seeds, then getting 3 males out of it.
 

bestbuds09

Well-Known Member
I reccomend incredible hulk, I have no info on the strain but I will say that its perfect for night time when you want to relax, I would smoke it every night and it would my ass out for the rest of the night.... not the best tasting but its not the worst tasting either.. very heavy high
 

Learning2Hydro

Active Member
Taste is important to me. I never like the diesel stuff because I thought it tasted like crap. So easy to be picky. :) I'm not shooting for the strongest of the strong either, just a well rounded coucher that tastes great too. Really interested in hearing the hermie/feminized stuff. Worries me, lol.
 
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