Looking for my first Auto to grow. Any suggestions?

Big fan of jack herer auto, just finished 5purp kush 5 diesl ryder and have beem takeing select jack branchs of a few days the purp kush was a huge body stone to much so, most of the pk came out with like a 7 gram yeild (first indoor and first auto, didn't think theyd get so big so the short kush might have been to sjshaded or something and my Rh wasn't in checka cocouple weeks into flowering (thought it'd be dryer than it was) the diesel ryder , beautiful, so dank my eyes burned from trimming it probably got a half to an O a piece, I had seen a reveiw in "Skunk" saying it was airy and boy was it ever, I woulda pulled way more weight if not fo r that, however the high was an excellent sativa high with a hint of body stone (think it was the genetics of one or two plants so I caught it occasionally) also worth nothing trich development was sick, off the hook, I'm talking crusty rims on leaf edges and the top cola of one was about 10 inches long 2.5 or so in diameter but do to the airyness it weighed 11.6, a denser strain it would been 14g's easy id guess more but the best one was the jack, nugs are smaller then the DR but dry up to be incredibly close to their original size in fact it may be the best plant iv seen when it comes to the difference in wet weight-moisture=dry weight equations, leafs arnt as trich encrusted but the nugs are more crystal covererd, on some real shit though it's been growing for 3 1/2 months! Long as fuck for an auto if you ask me, however preliminary testing of a few early finishing buds shoe exceptional results, with the fella I used to buy from telling me "this may be the best sativa I've ever smokes" id guess ill pull 1-2 O's a pop if they ever finish! As for some tips, i used lots of advanced nutes and miracle grow soil, now folks say autos feed lightly but I gave them veg- micro, grow, flower-micro, budcandy, rhino skin (shoulda used in veg to) and then depending on what week bud facror x, big bud and overdrive, usually in the same concentration I measured the nutes for 3 liters and put it in a gallon (3.7ish liters if Im not mistaken) i also used lots of soil microbs unnecessarly (coulda done it wiser, will explain) I had 16 autos in a 4x4 (dumbass) way to many 4-6 under a 600 watt light in a grow tent would be more ideal in my case idk if thats pertenent to you tho, one last thing bucket prep and planting, going for big root systems so, plant those bitchez in peat pots, take 5gal buckets and put holes in the bottom and holes up and down and on the sides, I'd say maybe ten, you dont need a bucket/pot so big but im partial to the classic bucket pot, anyhow fill er upwith dirt 3/4 of the way, take organic cane sugar and throw some in particularly a nice clump where the pwat pot will go, now make a good bacterial environment, moist warm and wet and innoculate the sugar with bacteria to help it start, harsh ass miracle grow will kill em so you gotta give em a good start,tear the bottom off ypuer peat pot, the autos don't have to to fuck with all that, put the pot on the sugar clump and fill in around it, for lights I jit em off when I go to work, no light running no worry about fire while I work (have ocd, sometimes quite bad) so it works out to a 9/15 light cycle, I did all that to one plant and it was the only purp kush that came out large and strong, of the strains your looking at id say fast and vast, that purp auto turned me off of purps for a bit honestly, as far as iv'e experienced jack herer auto has a taste, smell, and high of top quality and the bag appel of the nice dispensery nugs

Big fan of jack herer auto, just finished 5purp kush 5 diesl ryder and have beem takeing select jack branchs of a few days the purp kush was a huge body stone to much so, most of the pk came out with like a 7 gram yeild (first indoor and first auto, didn't think theyd get so big so the short kush might have been to sjshaded or something and my Rh wasn't in checka cocouple weeks into flowering (thought it'd be dryer than it was) the diesel ryder , beautiful, so dank my eyes burned from trimming it probably got a half to an O a piece, I had seen a reveiw in "Skunk" saying it was airy and boy was it ever, I woulda pulled way more weight if not fo r that, however the high was an excellent sativa high with a hint of body stone (think it was the genetics of one or two plants so I caught it occasionally) also worth nothing trich development was sick, off the hook, I'm talking crusty rims on leaf edges and the top cola of one was about 10 inches long 2.5 or so in diameter but do to the airyness it weighed 11.6, a denser strain it would been 14g's easy id guess more but the best one was the jack, nugs are smaller then the DR but dry up to be incredibly close to their original size in fact it may be the best plant iv seen when it comes to the difference in wet weight-moisture=dry weight equations, leafs arnt as trich encrusted but the nugs are more crystal covererd, on some real shit though it's been growing for 3 1/2 months! Long as fuck for an auto if you ask me, however preliminary testing of a few early finishing buds shoe exceptional results, with the fella I used to buy from telling me "this may be the best sativa I've ever smokes" id guess ill pull 1-2 O's a pop if they ever finish! As for some tips, i used lots of advanced nutes and miracle grow soil, now folks say autos feed lightly but I gave them veg- micro, grow, flower-micro, budcandy, rhino skin (shoulda used in veg to) and then depending on what week bud facror x, big bud and overdrive, usually in the same concentration I measured the nutes for 3 liters and put it in a gallon (3.7ish liters if Im not mistaken) i also used lots of soil microbs unnecessarly (coulda done it wiser, will explain) I had 16 autos in a 4x4 (dumbass) way to many 4-6 under a 600 watt light in a grow tent would be more ideal in my case idk if thats pertenent to you tho, one last thing bucket prep and planting, going for big root systems so, plant those bitchez in peat pots, take 5gal buckets and put holes in the bottom and holes up and down and on the sides, I'd say maybe ten, you dont need a bucket/pot so big but im partial to the classic bucket pot, anyhow fill er upwith dirt 3/4 of the way, take organic cane sugar and throw some in particularly a nice clump where the pwat pot will go, now make a good bacterial environment, moist warm and wet and innoculate the sugar with bacteria to help it start, harsh ass miracle grow will kill em so you gotta give em a good start,tear the bottom off ypuer peat pot, the autos don't have to to fuck with all that, put the pot on the sugar clump and fill in around it, for lights I jit em off when I go to work, no light running no worry about fire while I work (have ocd, sometimes quite bad) so it works out to a 9/15 light cycle, I did all that to one plant and it was the only purp kush that came out large and strong, of the strains your looking at id say fast and vast, that purp auto turned me off of purps for a bit honestly, as far as iv'e experienced jack herer auto has a taste, smell, and high of top quality and the bag appel of the nice dispensery nugs

Hey A&O what kind of nutes, feeding regimen do you use to pull that much weight so quick? My shits good just not big yeilds I like to see, also what is your medium? Sorry if missed it coco coir? Also would my 600 watt work as good as those lights you have?

herein.mygarden said:

Hey A&O what kind of nutes, feeding regimen do you use to pull that much weight so quick? My shits good just not big yeilds I like to see, also what is your medium? Sorry if missed it coco coir? Also would my 600 watt work as good as those lights you have?

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Yo Bro, For these Autos, nutes were BioBizz Grow and Bloom, that's it.

0.5ml Per L of Grow only for the first 2 weeks, then upto 1ml Grow Per L, if your plant looks light green then up the Grow a little bit. If shes really dark green, no more grow for next feed. but with those gentle amounts, you wont have any problem.

Bloom was introduced until at least week 6 (latest) even after they had started to develop buds, this is to get the most out of her 'growth' period, if you feed bloom to early, it will switch to flower mode and vertical growth will slow rapidly down or stop entirely, but this is a good way to control the height, depending on strain of course

Plant Magic Calmag + was on standby aswell, incase of any Calmag Defs. very useful to have especially when growing with LED's. Some LEDs can cause Cal Mag Defs.

Medium used was BioBizz LightMix or JaneyCo LightMix. No Coco. Airpots were also used,

Now, that don't sound a lot does it? but the key is keep it simple & Bottled Spring water & Bottled Fizzy Spring water. PH 6.3 is good enough. 6.5 is bang on.
They love the Co2 straight to their roots without or with feed added.

They were all on 24/0 light schedule and only had the light dropped to 18/6 during week 11 - 12, if they lasted that long. Also Germed straight into the big pot, no starting off in smaller pots, Autos have over accelerated tap root growth, and if they sense the bottom and your not quick enough transplanting, it can stunt them, plus they hate being moved about at all anyway. blame the Ruderallis gene for that.

And yeah mate, your 600HPs would work just aswell, providing your temps are normal etc. No argument from me about them. Powerful, do the job well.
But I prefer LEDs for many many other reasons.

Here's another good quick auto, the Fast Bud #2 from Sweet Seeds.
Very fast, finished in 64 Days under a 576W output (320W draw) LED

Alpha & Omeg said:

Yo Bro, For these Autos, nutes were BioBizz Grow and Bloom, that's it.

0.5ml Per L of Grow only for the first 2 weeks, then upto 1ml Grow Per L, if your plant looks light green then up the Grow a little bit. If shes really dark green, no more grow for next feed. but with those gentle amounts, you wont have any problem.

Bloom was introduced until at least week 6 (latest) even after they had started to develop buds, this is to get the most out of her 'growth' period, if you feed bloom to early, it will switch to flower mode and vertical growth will slow rapidly down or stop entirely, but this is a good way to control the height, depending on strain of course

Plant Magic Calmag + was on standby aswell, incase of any Calmag Defs. very useful to have especially when growing with LED's. Some LEDs can cause Cal Mag Defs.

Medium used was BioBizz LightMix or JaneyCo LightMix. No Coco. Airpots were also used,

Now, that don't sound a lot does it? but the key is keep it simple & Bottled Spring water & Bottled Fizzy Spring water. PH 6.3 is good enough. 6.5 is bang on.
They love the Co2 straight to their roots without or with feed added.

They were all on 24/0 light schedule and only had the light dropped to 18/6 during week 11 - 12, if they lasted that long. Also Germed straight into the big pot, no starting off in smaller pots, Autos have over accelerated tap root growth, and if they sense the bottom and your not quick enough transplanting, it can stunt them, plus they hate being moved about at all anyway. blame the Ruderallis gene for that.

And yeah mate, your 600HPs would work just aswell, providing your temps are normal etc. No argument from me about them. Powerful, do the job well.
But I prefer LEDs for many many other reasons.

Here's another good quick auto, the Fast Bud #2 from Sweet Seeds.
Very fast, finished in 64 Days under a 576W output (320W draw) LED

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Thanks very helpful Information, can't wait for round two!

Depends on what you want. Big Yield or good auto plant smoke. If a potent bud is what you want a little thing called Syrup. If yield is it the Royal Queen AK47. I have started a few Gnomo. They are almost 4 weeks old. The largest one is over 2 feet tall. That does not include pot. The others are almost 2 feet. I think it will be a killer plant. It has hardly any leaves and the structure of plant looks like it will be a cactus. One 3 foot cola and a few side buds. Cant wait to see it in another month.

Hi my last grow was a royal dwarf great smoke tiny plants I'm growing two ak47 autoflowers my oldest is on day 38 just started flower today and is just about 2 feet tall I don't know the yeild but it should be better than one ounce a plant anyways good luck

Ak47 autoflower in dwc bucket

Havn't tried fast and vast. I grew out some sweet dark devil and it wasn't bad. Not my fav smoke but I was still new when I grew it so I could do better. Autopounder and NL Blue were both good yields for me, about 2 and a half feet each (no stretch) in a 5 gal soil grow indoors with CFL/LED mix.

Short Ryder that's what my avitar picture is from. Finished in 55 days from seed on a 20/4 light schedule. Another of my favorites is Afgan Ryder Kush.,