looking for advice on flush period

AlecTheGardener · Feb 20, 2015

chuck estevez said:
is having to jack it at least 3 times a day considered OCD?

I hope not, if so I might need to start some meds.

Only if it interferes with your life and you have personal issues with it.

Compulsions can technically be any physical action, obsessions are the mental repetitive 'action.' When a patient displays issues with their obsessions or compulsions this can be considered OCD when diagnosed by a psychiatrist.

If you were cranking it frequently and you couldn't stop, even though you preferred to stop, that might be OCD.

reapersfamiliar · Feb 20, 2015

ibsippin said:
one step ahead of you brother...

you can always PM me if you need.

reapersfamiliar · Feb 20, 2015

AlecTheGardener said:
I hope not, if so I might need to start some meds. Only if it interferes with your life and you have personal issues with it.

Compulsions can technically be any physical action, obsessions are the mental repetitive 'action.' When a patient displays issues with their obsessions or compulsions this can be considered OCD when diagnosed by a psychiatrist.

If you were cranking it frequently and you couldn't stop, even though you preferred to stop, that might be OCD.

too bad the patient often refuses to believe the "looping" is not normal and that's the issue.

i've been known to rub one out more than once a day.

reapersfamiliar · Feb 20, 2015

ibsippin said:
one step ahead of you brother...

hahaaaaaaa when i started this conversation with you, i was a "member" now i turned into an "active member"..it's all about the post not time i've been a member here since 2013..i just don't post much.

reapersfamiliar · Feb 20, 2015

chuck estevez said:
is having to jack it at least 3 times a day considered OCD?

only if you keep on going back to check that the tissue is in the garbage.

AlecTheGardener · Feb 20, 2015

reapersfamiliar said:
too bad the patient often refuses to believe the "looping" is not normal and that's the issue.

i've been known to rub one out more than once a day.

By definition OCD patients know their behavior isn't considered normal, many patients have wrecked lives because of OCD. A patient I once treated could not wash his hands less then four times at the sink, he fucking hated it. Most OCD patients hate their compulsions, hate their obsessions more maybe.

It isn't not understanding that the obsession or compulsion isn't normal, they already know, it is reducing the frequency of those disturbing thoughts, this takes outside help.

reapersfamiliar · Feb 20, 2015

AlecTheGardener said:
By definition OCD patients know their behavior isn't considered normal, many patients have wrecked lives because of OCD. A patient I once treated could not wash his hands less then four times at the sink, he fucking hated it. Most OCD patients hate their compulsions, hate their obsessions more maybe.

It isn't not understanding that the obsession or compulsion isn't normal, they already know, it is reducing the frequency of those disturbing thoughts, this takes outside help.

right, the term is "looping" excessive repetitive thought..which can turn delusional, thereby needing just more than the normal ocd meds..then you're talking haloperidol and most people don't like that because of side effects and stigma attached.

a senile fungus · Feb 20, 2015

AlecTheGardener said:
By definition OCD patients know their behavior isn't considered normal, many patients have wrecked lives because of OCD. A patient I once treated could not wash his hands less then four times at the sink, he fucking hated it. Most OCD patients hate their compulsions, hate their obsessions more maybe.

It isn't not understanding that the obsession or compulsion isn't normal, they already know, it is reducing the frequency of those disturbing thoughts, this takes outside help.

I know a guy who repeats the punchline to every joke he says twice.

Does that count?

;-)

Dr.Pecker · Feb 20, 2015

reapersfamiliar said:
hahaaaaaaa when i started this conversation with you, i was a "member" now i turned into an "active member"..it's all about the post not time i've been a member here since 2013..i just don't post much.

I think the like button has something to do with it.

Dr.Pecker · Feb 20, 2015

My brother repeats everything he says. Hes add, autistic and ocd. Hes 27 stays in his room and plays video games I dont blame him sometimes.

AlecTheGardener · Feb 20, 2015

Dr.Pecker said:
My brother repeats everything he says. Hes add, autistic and ocd. Hes 27 stays in his room and plays video games I dont blame him sometimes.

He might be on to something I think.

Difficult combo he was given.

Dr.Pecker · Feb 20, 2015

AlecTheGardener said:
He might be on to something I think. Difficult combo he was given.

He does use it to his advantage really I'll have to take care of him forever.

Dr.Pecker · Feb 20, 2015

reapersfamiliar said:
romulan? i've seen. going on the wish list this very sec.

EDIT: it's out there still: http://www.kindgreenbuds.com/marijuana-strains/romulan/

malicifice said:
My goodness Dr! What's that pink one? I could have sworn I was done buying seeds for a bit, guess I was wrong.

I did some looking around federation got busted in 2009 I think. They lost the original mother. When I go to federations website it directs me to Amsterdam seeds not the correct website. You cant get it anymore from federation as far as I know. next generation was an affiliate and they have it or try attitude but i'm pretty sure they get it from next generation.

RM3 · Feb 20, 2015

I have original Romulan seeds from Joe himself, I will be making more they just have not made it to the garden yet

Oh I also have original Blueberry and Romberry and SC91X Romulan

Am currently running the clone only Blue Dream and gonna hit it with Blueberry pollen as well as several others.

Breedin is fun :bigjoint:

Oh Yeah, I'm also the guy that wrote the Truth about Flushing :hump:

MD914 · Feb 20, 2015

althor said:
And I included your name asking if you have done any experiments, did I call you names, talk down to you, imply you were an idiot or anything other than say "MD, have you done any experiments"? I have no problems with opinions differing from mine, I continually say it is a choice if you choose to flush or not. If someone chooses to flush, why does pinworm feel the need to bumrush the thread and start calling names?

A little sensitive maybe.

"Pinworm, Md, etc?

How many plants (clones) have you done a side by side with to test flushing?

Just for the record, I have done the exact same experiments using the dark cycle and then flush/dark cycle, no flush/dark cycle.

Many many times, I am not just pulling something out of my ass, I did this over YEARS of growing to see what my preferance was, have you?

Or are you basing it on reading? Or I have never flushed so I know I dont need to kinda bullshit?"

It was the last line that got me and insinuation that my opinion isn't valid if I don't perform experiments didn't help. Call it sensitive if you wish. I'm not Dexter's fukin lab but I'll put my bud up against anybody's :bigjoint:

MD914 · Feb 20, 2015

Dr.Pecker said:
Not flushed, no boiling water,grown organically and the taste is divine. I put them in a jar to cure in October still jarred up. I have grown 1000s of plants for realz. Been doing it for 20 years. The only time I ever needed to flush was when I was using chemical fertilizer and had a lock out issue. There was a time when I thought I knew everything and nobody could tell me shit. Then I grew up and started listening to the old hippies and gardeners. Now I do everything organic and wont even put fertilizer salts on my tomatoes. I think if somebody like doublejj, MD, or frenchy gave me advice I would say thank you and give it a go not give a rebuttal. Let me ask you what plants whether it be flowers or fruit do you flush to increase yield other than your pot?View attachment 3355560 View attachment 3355570 View attachment 3355578 View attachment 3355582 The only time I smoke other peoples pot is when they grow it the way I do. I just prefer it that way its very smooth and flavorful but hay to each their own right.

I could never get sick of seeing these pics of yours :shock:

FOR REALZ!! :hump:

FilthyFletch · Feb 20, 2015

I disagree with Pinworm completely. If you ever have smoked properly flushed weed cured versus weed not flushed but cured it is a huge difference. If your in hydro go ahead and flush. I use floranova and like a 7-10 flush. I will change the water 3 times in those days. Your plants leaves should fully yellow out meaning the chlorophyl is out. Once dried and cured the aroma, taste and burn will be strong smooth and burn to white ash. Shouldn't need to keep lighting it should maintain and amber and no popping sparking or coughing. If you dont flush you get a harsher taste, popping or sparking from phos left in and the aroma and taste will be lacking.I think in soil the flush is more like 2 weeks from chop . I dont grow soil its too much work and slow so might get another opinion on best ways to flush soil.

FilthyFletch · Feb 20, 2015

nomofatum said:
From recent interactions with Pinworm, I'm surprised to be saying this, but I totally agree with Pinworm on flushing. Don't do it, illogical and fails side by side at least in weight, the rest is personal opinion/delusion to be debated freely. If you have clones running I would encourage you to flush one/some and don't flush the rest, compare your results after drying and again after curing. If you notice a difference I expect it will be before curing. Test blind so you don't make yourself believe what you want to believe (we all tend to do this.)

Don't bother comparing if they aren't clones, they will be too different anyway even if same strain from seed.

How is it illogical? A plant has a fianite life cycle which you are controlling. When your ready to cut you want all nitrogen, chlorophyll and phos out of it as it tases bad and burns with popping and non white ash. The logic is the plant is where you want it so now you want to remove the leftover bad tasting nutrients and have the plant clean ready for harvest and to do this you flush it with water and flushing agents. The leave colors go yellow showing your done.The plans life is over its will live fine on the water for the flush time. If you smoke side by side properly flushed and cured buds against no flush cured buds you will know from the get go the flushed buds as the aroma is much stronger the smoke is extra flavorful and cough free. The ash will be bright white not popping crackling on going out.

Dr.Pecker · Feb 20, 2015

RM3 said:
I have original Romulan seeds from Joe himself, I will be making more they just have not made it to the garden yet

Oh I also have original Blueberry and Romberry and SC91X Romulan

Am currently running the clone only Blue Dream and gonna hit it with Blueberry pollen as well as several others.

Breedin is fun

Oh Yeah, I'm also the guy that wrote the Truth about Flushing

You better crack those seeds I hear you have to scuff them a little. You have your fist customer right here. Shoot me a pm whenever your ready, no shit!

RM3 · Feb 20, 2015

Dr.Pecker said:
You better crack those seeds I hear you have to scuff them a little. You have your fist customer right here. Shoot me a pm whenever your ready, no shit!

it'll be awhile , next 2 grows are already planned out, and the first ever grown Thunderfunk69 is lookin like she will be a clone only keeper, she'll harvest around 4/20

prolly do the Romulans this summer

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