Looking for advice. Do you think they are over or underfed? Would you chop?

inth3shadowz

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yep. he kinda laughs that so many growers were clamoring for a bloom formula that he ended up making one.

FP is light on Mg is the only thing i found with it. N was fine during bloom
Yep I've had nothing but success with it. And everytime I think I've found the "new hype" nutrient, I always end up going back to foliage pro, and suddenly a once lackluster plant turns around and is vigorous in growth. I don't claim to be some genius plant botanist...I just go with what works!
 

PJ Diaz

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Lmao what video did you watch he literally talks about foliage pro one minute in..you probably just ignored it because you want to be right. Its ok, keep blasting your bloom nutes, my plants stay green til the end.
My bad, I did somehow miss it the first time. Despite what he says, it's still too low in C, S, and M in my opinion.

I'm not sure why you would suggest that I blast bloom nutes, I never even said that I run bloom nutes. My typical feed is Jacks 321 start to finish. It's got a lot of C, S, and M, but not too much N. I'm not a Dyna hater, I've used it in the past. In fact I needed an "all-in-one" for a separate project recently and ordered some Dyna FP from Amazon real quick without giving it much thought, but then I started looking closer at the nutrient ratios and realized how low it was in C, M, and S, and I was kind of bummed that I hadn't ordered something else. Somehow Amazon lost the package, refunded me, and I ordered something else for my side-project instead.
 

inth3shadowz

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My bad, I did somehow miss it the first time. Despite what he says, it's still too low in C, S, and M in my opinion.

I'm not sure why you would suggest that I blast bloom nutes, I never even said that I run bloom nutes. My typical feed is Jacks 321 start to finish. It's got a lot of C, S, and M, but not too much N. I'm not a Dyna hater, I've used it in the past. In fact I needed an "all-in-one" for a separate project recently and ordered some Dyna FP from Amazon real quick without giving it much thought, but then I started looking closer at the nutrient ratios and realized how low it was in C, M, and S, and I was kind of bummed that I hadn't ordered something else. Somehow Amazon lost the package, refunded me, and I ordered something else for my side-project instead.
I should be more clear...Foliage Pro is just my favorite in the sense of ease of use and consistent results. Maxigrow, Floranova Gro, etc etc will work just fine, I just think Foliage Pro is so much less of a mess lol. What I'm trying to get at is, after a few years of dabbling with every mix of nutrients, I stumbled across a YouTube video where a guy grew peppers with MaxiGro vs Maxibloom, and the MaxiGro produced literally double the peppers. I thought to myself hmmm maybe he's on to something. Tried it myself, and seeing how healthy the plants stayed til harvest, I'm convinced bloom nutes are just a gimmick. I'm all for trying different experiments!
 

PJ Diaz

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I should be more clear...Foliage Pro is just my favorite in the sense of ease of use and consistent results. Maxigrow, Floranova Gro, etc etc will work just fine, I just think Foliage Pro is so much less of a mess lol. What I'm trying to get at is, after a few years of dabbling with every mix of nutrients, I stumbled across a YouTube video where a guy grew peppers with MaxiGro vs Maxibloom, and the MaxiGro produced literally double the peppers. I thought to myself hmmm maybe he's on to something. Tried it myself, and seeing how healthy the plants stayed til harvest, I'm convinced bloom nutes are just a gimmick. I'm all for trying different experiments!
I get that, and like I said, I don't typically run bloom nutes myself. Here's the new all-in-one that I purchased when my Dyna order disappeared. It's really easy to use too, basically one tsp/gal:


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hotrodharley

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What I use seedling to chop. 1 teaspoon part A. 1/2 teaspoon part B. $30 on Amazon for the 2 and I’ve grown multiple crops using the initial order. Has magnesium in part A. I’ve only had to supplement calcium in 2 strains in early flower.
 

bigunyun

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I think you missed some of the signs of Nitrogen toxicity...The color is pretty dark and there's some visible clawing in some of your pictures on the leaves that look less damaged. But that aside, I think you may be the victim of watering/feeding schedule & technique. Feeding at 2EC on a feed-feed-water schedule is really hefty...then from your description of your run-off doesn't really sound like it hits the mark. Watering until it just starts dripping doesn't push out old/excess nutrients.

For instance I'm using Promix in 5g bags and I feed/water at 2 gallons per bag, and that gives me about 1.5 liters of runoff per bag. If I check the EC toward the end of the runoff and feel that it's substantially higher than where I'm generally feeding, I keep going until its closer to my feed EC. I think you've locked 'em out.
Makes sense thanks!
 
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