Looking for a simple nutrient routine
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Synchronicity
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I have been using GH - the Lucas formula which is as simple as I can find yet. Every time I water. I believe this chart is for every 3rd watering so I cut these numbers by 1/3 and add it to every gallon....
Its only down side (for me) is that I run short on nitrogen in late veg and early bloom when they grow fast....so I then also add fish emulsion (5-1-1) at 2 tsp per gallon.............
Its only down side (for me) is that I run short on nitrogen in late veg and early bloom when they grow fast....so I then also add fish emulsion (5-1-1) at 2 tsp per gallon.............
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That's great. Thanks. I think the gh is probably the way I'm going to go.
SofaKingHigh_
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I would highly recommend greenleaf nutrients mega crop 1 part. It’s a dry nutrient and is super simple and easy to use. Fox farm is good for soil but not the best for coco.
HydroKid239
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Best option is do a search on the forum for simple plant feeds, or nutrients in general then pick from the threads you feel may be able to help best. Read what others have done, tried, failed & succeeded.
it’s the fastest way to get a solid answer.
it’s the fastest way to get a solid answer.
calvin.m16
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General Hydroponics Lucas Formula is the bees knees for simple formula and excellent results. I concur with this! If you want simple do Lucas Formula.
calvin.m16
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Note Maxibloom will be very acidic in Reverse Osmosis filtered water, it works best with tap water..
The Lucas Formula for Hydroponics - Garden Gear Shop
The key realization of the Lucas Formula is that you don't need FloraGro since there is enough nitrogen, phosphorus, potassium, and micronutrients in FloraBloom and FloraMicro to meet a plants nutrient requirements.
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Wattzzup
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Even the regular chart cuts the grow out a couple weeks into flower, I believe.
I'm using the General Hydroponics Flora Nova Grow and Bloom with great results. I used Fox Farms for two years, I grew some good weed but had constant issues from week 3-4 in flower.
I like these GH Grow and Bloom bottles because they already have cal-mag and I've been using full strength as recommended in the charts, the plants are nice and green. With FF, at half strength I would have deficiencies, at higher doses I would have nute burn. It was very frustrating, after experimenting for two years I decided maybe FF is the problem.
The only additives I use now are silica and molasses.
I like these GH Grow and Bloom bottles because they already have cal-mag and I've been using full strength as recommended in the charts, the plants are nice and green. With FF, at half strength I would have deficiencies, at higher doses I would have nute burn. It was very frustrating, after experimenting for two years I decided maybe FF is the problem.
The only additives I use now are silica and molasses.
MickFoster
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GH MaxiBloom from start to finish.........no additives.
.Smoke
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3 days on jack's 5-12-26 and the plants are loving it! Bye bye General Hydroponics forever
I took the plunge 3 days ago and transitioned my entire garden over to jack's 5-12-26 from GH's maxi grow / bloom, and all of the plants look fantastic at 647-675PPM! That's pretty incredible to me, and explains why my jack's grown flowers taste and burn better. I have to feed GH's maxi grow /...
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Rurumo
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I'm with Mick and Smoke both on this one. Honestly, I wish all new growers would start with Maxibloom-it would just give them a better chance at success the first time around. Here is a great old Maxibloom thread https://www.icmag.com/forum/marijuana-growing/nutrients-and-fertilizers/189616-the-k-i-s-s-method?t=191645
Jack's A/B is another great choice and it gives you a bit more ability to alter your nutrient ratios depending on stage of growth than Maxibloom. In my experience, yield between Maxibloom and Jack's has been nearly identical. Keep in mind too, Megacrop A/B is identical to Jack's A/B. There are a lot of other two part powder base nutrients that are also similar-Athena, Masterblend, etc. Two part nutrients take a bit of research to dial in to your setup's conditions.
So I ended up going with the gaia green 444 and 284, microbe and myko superpacks from microbial applications, and worm Castings to start with. I know there are a few things that could probably make my grow a bit better, but I love the organic and the whole biology of the soil.
MickFoster
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I hope you're not using coco with that dry stuff.
LeastExpectedGrower
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I've moved to this, but for now will do MaxiGro for the first few weeks of veg.
No, soil
calvin.m16
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Have you done the cost analysis between Maxi and Flora? Is it that big of a difference ya think?
I'm wanting to run Lucas formula with CalMag in coco . Using only MPK (Monopotassium Phosphate) as a bloom booster.
I'm looking into Flora because I have ice cold reverse osmosis water that doesn't like dissolving salts easily and I'm not a fan of mixing my own stock solutions or heating my water. Even my sink takes a solid 5 minutes before the water comes out hot of the tap and the untreated water I have is 500 PPM of complete garbage. It's fortunately mostly metals that my softener and pre-filters handle but I don't find it suitable for my crop.
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LeastExpectedGrower
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Neither are so expensive to me that it's a huge issue.
By my rough quick calculations look like:
A set of three 1qt Floras is about ~40$ range give or take. A 2.2lb bag of Maxi is 12-15$ and most likely you're using no more than 7g per gallon, making it good for 142 gallons of feed, making it 10 cents or less per gallon of feed water. Even if you're using both Gro & Bloom or just Bloom the pricing wouldn't change since you're using the same amount per feeding of either.
Trio is ~15ml per feeding per gallon (obviously differs based on how much you can feed at any given time), and the math works out to 189 gallons with all three quart bottles (assuming you'd use the same of each, which of course you wouldn't, something would run out first), so roughly 20 cents per gallon of feed.
I have a feeling (without calculating the sliding scale of the Trio's different mixes across a single grow and/or multiple grows) that the Maxi is probably cheaper on a per-use level.
It's a HELL of a lot easier to administer, given I was measuring the ratios of nutrients individually for gallon jugs of water with syringes, then also doing the pH balancing, etc. Way easier for me to weigh the amount and dump that little pile in each jug.
I'm hoping it also adds to my grow consistency since I always seemed to time things wrong and end up deficient in week 3 of flower and have to fight back from it.
MaxiGrow & MaxiBloom are also a bit easier to handle in the mixing. You can figure pretty reliably what the PPM per gram are, then measure the amount you're looking to feed based upon the PPM per G. From my testing 1g of MaxiBloom ended up being 90-100ppm or so.