looking for a needle in a haystack

Mr.KushMan

Well-Known Member
I have been using google but every combination I try gives me pretty much the same drek. I know having a business lisence is needed as well as GST# and probably some sort of registration on dealing with fine chemicals, like Shepj pointed out. But how do you mean "...a mirage that undercuts DEA and CIA agencies...", but the point of setting up a business would be to supply chemicals, not psychoactive substances, even though there is a love circle overlap, hahaha, so it would be the people on the other end receiving them that would be getting in trouble if they had ill intention, of course they would be cut off in the case they wanted to tell me about there exploits and it contradicts the terms and conditions of the site, right. But I am going to continue to research and I'll let you know what I find out.

Peace
 

ndangerspecimen101

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Very nice point there!

You've been digging some dirt up on google huh... nice nitrogen rich soil that is!

A disclaimer on such provisions of the company... such as mushroom spores, cannabis seeds, exotic herbs and tonics...are all grey market sellers... strict regulations are mandated for such setups... you must know the laws of your land specifically.... every jurisdictions has its codes and regulations!
 

shepj

Oracle of Hallucinogens
a.k.a get a fucking attorney if you set up shop, and make him/her a fuckin good one!
 

Mr.KushMan

Well-Known Member
Hey Shepj you said you found some information, I couldn't. Maybe I am tired or just dumb, but if you could be a sport and link me to what you found or else just give me the keywords you used. Thanks is advance.

Peace
 

shepj

Oracle of Hallucinogens
E-mail someone like Sigma Aldrich, and ask if they can direct you about local laws for something of this nature.. they may be able to throw you in the right direction.
 

ndangerspecimen101

Well-Known Member
Sigma Aldrich?

Aren't they a big global business... they wouldn't waste their time responding to such a small inquiry. As Shepj previously stated its best to seek an attorney's advice on such matters... because certain markets have different laws, regulations, and permits to operate. I wouldn't waste my time on setting up a RC business... its too much hassle, especially if your actually synthesizing or manufacturing these chemicals!
 

ndangerspecimen101

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RC Vendors are not commerical businesses... hence the term" Grey Market"

This brings us back to the basic law of the Controlled Substance Act, which implies in the Scheduled 1 terms:

"
(1) Schedule I.—
(A) The drug or other substance has a high potential for abuse.
(B) The drug or other substance has no currently accepted medical use in treatment in the United States.
(C) There is a lack of accepted safety for use of the drug or other substance under medical supervision."

Yes, it is known that certain reseach chemicals are not scheduled as such but they fall under the provisions of the ANALOG Law... whenever vendors state such things as not meant for human consumption.... thats just a pretty decorative saying to lure in buyers... and suggest to other outsiders that their business is legitimate...

No government agency will provide you with a license to sell these products... solely due to the second clause "has no accepted medical use."

Its farfetched what you are trying to do... Better assess yourself with the "BILL OF RIGHTS"... evaluate and interpret their meanings then come back and report your findings!
 

Mr.KushMan

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Sorry dude but I think you haven't been reading closely, I live in Canada. Which means no analog act, not a bill of rights as such and our law system is set up more for the people. If I am not doing anything explicitly illegal in Canada, am operating in Canada, and sell mainly to people in Canada I think I should be fine. I kind of had an odd realization that I can buy these chemicals in more or less any quantity, so why can't I sell them to others who can buy them. I don't think I should have to much trouble getting it arranged, and as long as I am smart about it I should be left alone by the DEA and CIA, haha. I doubt they would even try to extradite a case like this, especially when I will be making alot less than 50000/year. Anyway I think I am well on my way, thanks for the information ndangerspecimen101. But just to recap, I don't need any kind of certification, but I will need legal smarts as well as a lawyer on retainer and just some confirmation from ndangerspecimen101, you are sure that vendors in the terms of research chemicals are not commercial business, how do you think I would register for the CRA, chemical supplier?. I really think that this is a good possibility and an easy way to make some legitimate on the books money but at the same time fraught with darkness. But take care..

Peace
 

ndangerspecimen101

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You do your homework... I must commend you for that ;)... I actually admirer it!

Yeah you living in Canada would exclude all those factors... hmmm, I would love to talk to you more about this, but in a private manner...
 

ndangerspecimen101

Well-Known Member
The reason why I say this is because I am very intriqued beyond the science of enthobotany.... and setting up online business seems a like very worthwhile pursuit... seems much more palatable than RC sourcing!
 

Mr.KushMan

Well-Known Member
Absolutely my man, shoot me a message at any point and I'll get back to you. I check back every now and again throughout the day. I think it could be an extremely interesting experience to set a business like that up.

Peace
 

shepj

Oracle of Hallucinogens
ndangerspecimen101, lol.. okay, now you're just using scare tactics. I meant commercial as in vending largely without proper certification.. ya kno, uh, street pharmacist? lol
 

donjuan417

Active Member
shepj is right, i hope you got a fuck ton of friends, i got 1 gram of 2C-e and 5 of us tripped a bunch of different times. get yourself some good scales to weigh it out, the difference between a good trip and a bad one isn't much. we started at 15-20mg apiece and the most any of us every did was 40mg, which gave us about a 14 hour trip. i would be careful with it. but everyone else is right, you kinda do your own dirt to find the sources, NO ONE is just going to give you a solid source (if they do, their not very bright) no one gave me a source and i found one. if you really want it you'll find it
 
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