hellmutt bones
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Yes we need more Ryans in RIU...I only read these threads for a good laugh now! I don't know how Ryan can endure the roasting!
look what I did to this plant omg!
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That is nothing and I do worse shit to my plants on purpose lol. As long as the split heals and doesnt leave a whole which could get infected or infested than you are perfectly fine.
I keep some duct tape or any kind of good sticky/strong tape and just tape her up and it will usually heal without a hiccup in a few days.
Ill try and find some pics where I reattached entire main branches from my first topping where the 2 main shoots come from the stalk and I have taped them up and they reattach and grow creating a huge dense knuckle that can withstand a hurricane lol.
Snapping your stalks and shoots is great for your plant. Thats the focus of supercropping them and creating all the dense hard woody stems and knuckles that will give your girls great strength to support all your giant colas and eliminate chance of bending or snapping off from not supporting them right if that was the case. I do it from bottom of my plant to the tops every couple inches.
I use a pair of plastic pliers and crack and teist these bitches up every couple inches and creates super strong plants that can support anything.
That way it can support some massive flowers like these ladies.. Day 36 of Bloom. Nice chunks...
I use a pair of plastic pliers and crack and teist these bitches up every couple inches and creates super strong plants that can support anything.
That way it can support some massive flowers like these ladies.. Day 36 of Bloom. Nice chunks...
Resinhound
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I dunno man,I dont know how much time/energy I want my plant to expend on making Frankenstein stems,thats what stakes and cages are for imho.Now supercropping I can see,making a knuckle every inch of your verticle stem seems like a waste.
It doesnt do anything to the growth of your plants. Theres no energy or time wasted what so ever. Now if you pinch or top the plants that is what takes time and energy from new growth to form. Thats why many people including myself only top one or two times and just "tip" the shoots instead. Meaning bending or tipping the shoot over which does the same thing without delaying growth. Bending and tipping the terminal shoots changes the auxin and response of lateral growth or apical growth which fills in the lower shoots and forces them to grow to your upper canopy.
Twisting, bending and snapping doesnt stop growth at all and I do it all the way thru the 2-3 week of bloom depending what variety i am running with no ill effects besides super chunky rock hard support structures for big ass flowers. Why use 100 stakes in a pot if you can just use 3-4 and the branches support themselves lol. It also increases bud size by sending hormones to repair those sites and in turn when done in upper canopy results in bigger flowers and quicker growth. Try it during first few weeks of bloom and see for yourself. Been doing it for a long time nothing but positive here. Good day
All I do is take the stem between my fingers an inch apart and twist it opposite direction until it snaps and thats it. Takes a few minutes per plant once a week, thats all she needs. Yes it is time consuming if you have a shit load of plants so its def not for everyone. But if you want results you go the extra mile to get the best out of every inch of garden you can. Its full time gig for me so its worth it.
SPLFreak808
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While i agree, branch knuckles will harden up branches ect, you went a bit excessive imo lol. A knuckle every 6-8" is more then good enough and a split in the stalk is not needed if you actually give veg time. The stalk splitting in half like that DOES stall growth. I've done it a few times.
Joe Blows Trees
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When two of my plants main stems split, they both took about a week or so to start showing real growth again. Both were accidental but the supercropping was on purpose. Neither of those plants needed staking. Very thick and woody stems and branches. I personally like to use supercropping as a way to help design the best canopy possible on each plant.
When you say it slows growth you are referring to the main shoot of the part you supercropped than yes that is the point. But overall the rest of the plant continue to flourish because it changes the response in your plant forcing the lower branches and shoot to grow and catch up to the top of the plant. Which is the purpose of tipping or super cropping.. Overall plant growth is not affected whatsoever if any it is minimal. Pinching the shoots/tops/twisting stalks does not slow down overall growth of your plant given it is in the proper environment and you have done it correctly. Im not gonna argue about it. An easier way to look and see how much "growth" is slowed or not effected is to do it to one of your plants and leave the other one alone. You will see the results and differences between the plants for yourself. If you think because you have "harmed/damaged" your plant which stops it from growing than this is just speculation and not actually what occurs. I can promise you that the plants you supercrop and twist the stems will be bigger and bushiet than the ones left untouched or simply topped with much better overall results. Plant will be super bushy and fulller than just topping them because you arent removing or cutting off any lateral shoots or tips. Which is why I prefer this method over topping because it is less stress, less damage and better results overall. Try it for yourself and see. Guarantee you will be surprised at the results.
whitebb2727
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Dude that many breaks is counter productive.
You only need one break per stem, at most a couple per stem.
You only need one break per stem, at most a couple per stem.
SPLFreak808
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Been there, done that...and i still supercrop, i know what works and i know what's excessive. You have no bottom growth!!! So why did you break the stalk? Lmao. You were excessive and thats all there is to it. Nothing was gained except for veg time
Resinhound
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Its strange...ive seen a shit ton of fat buds on plants without a big knuckle every 2 inches on the stems.
Rastafari InI
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I can just imagine now, in years to come when Ryan the horticulturist's prophet will make fun of our inferior product,
he has all the flavour, quality and yield,
and he'll save so much money because he will buy all the stock before Advanced takes over the company to sell Mt Dew part A and part B.
he has all the flavour, quality and yield,
and he'll save so much money because he will buy all the stock before Advanced takes over the company to sell Mt Dew part A and part B.
Go look at kyle kushmans page and see what he thinks about this.. Many moons ago I got the technique from the man himself. It is not counter productive whatsoever. If you are running perpetual garden (meaning) a flowering and a veg room. Than you have 8-9 weeks depending on your strain to get the biggest, bushiest and strongest plants to get ready for the next blooming cycle.
So there is plenty of time to do whAtever you want to your plants and plenty of recovery time in doing so.. Using the twist and snap method continuously up your plants has no ill effect whatsoever and promotes huge dense and thick branches to support monster colas. I showed you a pic of one of my plants as an example I would love to know why you think theres an issue because these are gonna yield roughly 6-8 ounces a plant. Running 4-6 per 1k light, so you do the math my friend... Nothing but chunks. We can argue all day about it. You want yields and quality you go the extra mile and love what you do.
I never said you needed to use this method.. There are a million ways to skin a cat my friends.. Its referring to the original poster sayin look what he did to his plant. So i responded with I do worse shit to my plants on purpose. And thats all my post was meant to say and acccomplish. Dont sweat it the plant will be fine. Ppl got to stop taking shit to heart. If you dont like super cropping your plants than dont do it and its that simple. Im just showing you what I do and thats all I was doing. If you dont like it or dont think it works just dont do it and thats it, no need to argue. Im sure u do plenty of shit to your garden than I would never do and vice versa... It doesnt make me right and u wrong or u right and me wrong.. Its just what I like to do and thats it!! End of discussion
whitebb2727
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All I see is really stretched plants with some knuckles.
Can you show some pics from the top?
Heres the one I used for an example..
Fruity Chronic Juice 5th week bloom... Aint nuttin stretchy about it. Big fckin chunks is what it is.. 6-8 ounces I get roughly per plant I run 6 per light in 10 gallon smart pots.. Pro-mix BX with 10% perlite, 25% castings, 10% humus and a cup of added dolomite per bag.
Medi-One nutrients thats where its at!! One bottle and nothing else just that. Simple stupid
Those are 6 foot bamboo stakes just give u idea of how big they are. Buds are about size of a plastic Soda Bottle (not the big one the regular ones lol). They finish up around 52-55 days. Have about 2 weeks left or so. Just started flushing (water, carbs and zyme only) then they will be ready to chop.. Them sours take about 60-65 days I can put pics up later when I get to garden after work.