Long term Storage Issues

I have been working with my naturopathic doctor on the storage issue. She is like the ganja goddess where I live. Anyhow, maybe I can shed some light on this topic. It drives me crazy when my herb is dried out to a crisp. I also want to have the ability to store herbs long term and still have the medicine in tact.

I get a lot of private reserve type herb from private collectors with the best genetics. I have a high tolerance and get used to my herbs real fast (3-4 Days) So variety is the name of the game for me.

How do you store your herb to make it last long and retain potency? There are a some factors to consider:

1 How was the herb cured? For storage or for sales. I can leave buds sitting out on the table that have been cured for storage and they remain perfectly "springy" for several days.

2 Use glass mason jars to store bud. You can use plastic baggies inside the mason jars to separate your varieties and keep exposure to fresh air at a minimum. This method works well in my experience, however you must be sure that you are using the right kind of plastic bags. Most plastic baggies will begin to melt within an hour or so. You will be able to see the keef sticking to the bag and you cant get it off. I collect the plastic bags from the dispensary because they are the right kind of plastic and do not melt from the citric acids.

3 If you really want to store your buds for a much later date you can bury a mason jar underground (about 12"-24" or so) but you run the risk of mold if the buds are retaining any moisture.

4 Herb should be springy if you want to smoke or vaporize it. By springy I mean that the plant material is dry but not crispy. The material is only springy due to the natural oils and thc in the plant.

5 Eventually we all wind up with crispy buds from time to time. If you would like your bowl to last longer than one hit there is a cheat/workaround. Take a small airtight/vacuum sealed reusable container (like a small prescription bottle) and fill it. Break off one end of a q-tip and dampen about half of it (the tip) and then squeeze all of the excess water off of the tip. (It is important not to leave too much moisture on the q-tip so squeeze hard) Throw the q-tip in with your herb over night and you will be able to humidify it back to life.

6 buy smaller amounts of bud at a time. (This is not always an option and I wouldn't recommend doing this unless it is a dispensary or a next door neighbor)

7 Take out a few days supply from your mason jars and keep the medicine in small bottles. This allows you to leave your main storage jars alone and just go in and out of the smaller bottles.

With all these different variables involved, my humble recommendation is, store your buds on a case by case basis. Find out how they were cured, use the right plastics, definitely use size appropriate mason jars. (as little air inside as possible) Finally just be a little vigilant in the way you treat your medicine.

Sorry that I couldn't provide a "one size fits all", "cookie cutter" type solution, but hopefully these points can help you.
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hey so im new to weed and i dont smoke that often...when i buy weed, i usually buy a 20 sack. i have had this weed for about two months in a small baggie. i kept the baggie in a thermas container thing for soup, along with my lighter and bowl. just yesterday i looked at my weed and it was golden colored and shit. i have been reading up and apparently that is dank? i think so, and so does my friend.
anyways, the main reason im here is im wondering what i can store just a little weed in (20 sack or less) . yesterday i took my baggie and put it in a orange pill container. is that a good thing to put it in? i want to store it long term, like for a few months...i live with my mom and im 18 years old, so i gotta hide it. i got a great spot in my car behind the ash tray but it will only fit a few small containers...
 

jonblaze420

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hey so im new to weed and i dont smoke that often...when i buy weed, i usually buy a 20 sack. i have had this weed for about two months in a small baggie. i kept the baggie in a thermas container thing for soup, along with my lighter and bowl. just yesterday i looked at my weed and it was golden colored and shit. i have been reading up and apparently that is dank? i think so, and so does my friend.
anyways, the main reason im here is im wondering what i can store just a little weed in (20 sack or less) . yesterday i took my baggie and put it in a orange pill container. is that a good thing to put it in? i want to store it long term, like for a few months...i live with my mom and im 18 years old, so i gotta hide it. i got a great spot in my car behind the ash tray but it will only fit a few small containers...
howz that?
 

BUDVAC

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Look for or order a BudVac. Glass canning jar with lock that comes with a vacuum pump. Yes I am affiliated with the company. Just saw this thread and wanted you all to be aware of the latest products for storing. www.budvac.com
 

Jar Man

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"...Take a small airtight/vacuum sealed reusable container (like a small prescription bottle) and fill it. Break off one end of a q-tip and dampen about half of it (the tip) and then squeeze all of the excess water off of the tip. (It is important not to leave too much moisture on the q-tip so squeeze hard) Throw the q-tip in with your herb over night and you will be able to humidify it back to life..."

You made some good points except this one. Why not just throw in a small peice of orange or apple peel? This is well known to work better that a dampened Q-Tip.

Stay away from plastic unless you have access to the right type of bags as mentioned. Storing or smoking, it's glass or nothing. We have a chest freezer with a lock that holds our stash in Mason jars for months or more.
 

greenlikemoney

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Mason jars, hands down. And if you don't open the jar up, your bud will stay good for alot longer than you could ever imagine.

Opened a jar last winter that was 2 1/2 years old. It was just like the day I stashed it away.
 

danbridge

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get it almost dry, put in zip loc bags and into your freezer. When you need some, pull it out, air it for a day, and presto, you have long term storage. Good for up to a couple of years or more if kept frozen. No mold issues and the taste actually improves over time. You don't need to keep it in airtight jars or any of that stuff. Just bag it and freeze it.
Freezing actually freezes the trichromes right off the bud. Especially in ziplock bags. if you collect the trichromes in the bag you can make kief or hash. The bud's potency, as far as smoking after freeezing, is pointless if you want to get high.
 

cmbajr

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Food saver! Or glass jars with the suction seal on the inside of the lid. Should be good for a little over a year if stored properly.
 

kpmarine

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Freezing actually freezes the trichromes right off the bud. Especially in ziplock bags. if you collect the trichromes in the bag you can make kief or hash. The bud's potency, as far as smoking after freeezing, is pointless if you want to get high.
I have to disagree a bit here. Freezing makes the trichs more brittle and inclined break off, but it takes more than just freezing. That's why you freeze and then agitate for hash. I have smoked trim I've been freezing for prep before, still got me as high as the unfrozen trim. Maybe long term is an issue, but a month didn't do anything noticeable to the potency.
 

danbridge

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Wow I don't know how you guys do it. I have always found that after about 2 - 2 and half months in a jar, the bud is at peak ripeness. Stays that way pretty much up until 6 months. After that, It starts drying out and degrading into swag. 2 and a half years would be some stale bud in my jars. I may still get stoned, but damn the taste, texture and burn.
 

danbridge

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Oh if a genie popped out of a bottle, and granted me 1 wish, it would be to have the ability to save a $20 sack for more than 1 day lol.
 

Natural Gas

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Wow I don't know how you guys do it. I have always found that after about 2 - 2 and half months in a jar, the bud is at peak ripeness. Stays that way pretty much up until 6 months. After that, It starts drying out and degrading into swag. 2 and a half years would be some stale bud in my jars. I may still get stoned, but damn the taste, texture and burn.
Can't say I have that problem...I do have stash in the five year plus range stored in my dark basement in Mason Jars but that said I mostly vape now. Arizer Extreme-Q...I can't take joint and bong hits like I used to...FWIW
 

kindnug

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I like those Budvac jars> I'll order a couple to check them out!
Mason jars work fine for me>
I wish I knew how to make the lids seal without moisture accumulating with the buds in the jar.
Then again I haven't tried it because I'm scared of growing mold. That's the last thing I want to grow...
 
Wow I don't know how you guys do it. I have always found that after about 2 - 2 and half months in a jar, the bud is at peak ripeness. Stays that way pretty much up until 6 months. After that, It starts drying out and degrading into swag. 2 and a half years would be some stale bud in my jars. I may still get stoned, but damn the taste, texture and burn.
I've kept bud in plastic bags for 2 years or more (at slightly less then room temp.), and its a better product then it was when I started. The bud ends up turning gold from oxidization. Reminding one of that fabled old Columbian gold...
 
Another note, People keep talking about bud drying out..

Well, you really can't vap bud right if it isn't totally dry and particalized.

And on that point,.. Pot that isn't totally dry doesn't get you anywhere near as high, as pot that is totally dry...
There's no getting around that. Flavor, high everything is better, I just tend to get a headache from smoking moist pot.

Also throwing the weed in a cheap plastic bag, and then placing the bags in a coffee can with a lid on it, then placing in the freezer works quite well
 
Freezing and being really dry, causes trichomes to become brittle and fall easly. That's why in almost all forms of hash production, you need dry, cold weed for best results...
 

Nizza

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yes the trichs fall off but you must agitate them. the real best way to preserve weed in the state that its in (stop cure) is to vacuum seal it in a mason jar and freeze it. you have to be very careful handling the frozen buds and is good to let them thaw before shaking/cracking your seal
most people experience dry bud because the freezer sucks the moisture out of it when the temperature change happens, condensation transfers (freezer burn)
freezer burn is prevented by vacuum sealing, but you must be sure to handle them with care while theyre frozen (no shaking the jar)
 
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