Lollipop White Widow/Blueberry/Sadhu

I've grown a lowryder strain I've done 4 ak47 autoflower. Potency is an issue but I found with a 2 month cure time it almost solves it. Big downside though I mean you gotta wait close to 6 months from seed for it to be at its best. The stuff I cured for a month was like 60% compared to the two month jar. Taste and smell was better and overall high was greatly improved. I just really really don't like the super long cure period. I want to try the Hindu Kush autoflower with my current set up I'm sure it would be pretty dank.

Peace

greenfirekilla420 said:

I've grown a lowryder strain I've done 4 ak47 autoflower. Potency is an issue but I found with a 2 month cure time it almost solves it. Big downside though I mean you gotta wait close to 6 months from seed for it to be at its best. The stuff I cured for a month was like 60% compared to the two month jar. Taste and smell was better and overall high was greatly improved. I just really really don't like the super long cure period. I want to try the Hindu Kush autoflower with my current set up I'm sure it would be pretty dank.

Peace

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Wow! thats a really long cure time. I was able to cure my last batch in about a week and it turned out fantastic. Very smooth and not harsh at all. Have you seen the snow ryder strain out now? and i think they have a sour diesel lowryder too!

Yes they do also Great White Shark, White Russian, Hindu Kush, Blueberry, Lemon Skunk, and a couple more. I'm thinking about buying the ten pack of the hindu kush and doing throwing six in the soil next run. If I get a male I'll polinate one whole plant to get some seeds so I won't have buy any for a while.

Peace

Been neglecting the hell out of my plants for about the last 10 days. Most of the BB and WW are showing some npk deficiency but nothing major. Its mostly p and k which they will get in a few days. The older sadhu are mostly doing the same thing except more severe. I've got all the pots up to 6.5 now and the ph symptoms have stopped progressing. The tallest BB and WW are 24 inches with the shortest being a little over 14 inches. The older sadhu range in size from 9-15 inches and the younger sadhu range from 4-8 inches and 2 midgets at 1.5 inches (they both germinated really fucked up and self topped at the first node). The older skunk/haze are all a foot or more tall and the younger I couldn't reach to measure but look to be around 5-8 inches. All the skunk/haze look awsome besides some slight pest damage on the older ones from when I had all my landscaping in there. The skunk/haze are all in 4 inch pots not even filled to the top and only 1 has 2 leaves at the bottom that are slightly slightly yellow. They are sporting 8-12 branch nodes at this point as well. The WW and BB have between 12 and 19 branches after taking 35 cuttings a little over a week ago. I will be taking enough cuttings tomorrow to get the total number of branches to 14 or less. I might keep 16 on a few of the stouter looking BB and WW. After cutting more clones and a few leaves the plants should be nice and lollipopped. I expect most of the lower branches on the WW and BB will catch up to the upper ones. If I timed the FIM right 70-90% of the branches should be within a 6-8 inch plane within a couple weeks. There are a total of 101 plants under the lights right now. All of the 27 skunk/haze will be outside as soon as I get them sexed. Around 29 sadhu will be thrown out as male assuming a male/female rate of 50%. That will leave me with about 50 plants and a lot more free time and space.

Its becoming a jungle in there bro looking good. Get that deffinecncy under control quick. I wanna see some heavy ass colas on these plants.

Peace

Gonna be givin the plants a full 24 hours of dark starting Tuesday morning. Also, I will be dosing them all with Tiger Bloom, Sweet, and Grow Big. That should take care of all my deficiencies. Ph is still holding steady at 6.5-6.6. I have'nt been in a hurry to fix the deficiencies because they are still growing super fast and I know most of the large fan leaves on them now will be gone within a week as I complete the lollipopping process. I wasn't too impressed with the FIM technique. Had 5 plants that it didn't take on and simply slowed down the growth of the terminal shoot while it was recovering. It really wasn't necessary as I would have ended up with plenty of branches either way. I'm hoping to get over 800g total which should impossible not to do given the number of plants. I expect around 588g dry off the BB and WW. This would be an average of 28g per plant dry which was what I got with my last grow and it was super fucked up. This means that I only need to average around 9g per plant off the sadhu to reach my goal. The highest yielder on my last grow was a sadhu that hit 45g dry weight. I don't think even the older sadhu will be that big when they're finished but as dense and resinous as those sadhu buds are I wouldn't be suprised to pull 30+g dry off some of the larges ones.

Sounds good can't wait for these ladies to start flowering.

Peace

Plants are looking much much better now. I treated all the WW and BB with Tiger Bloom, Organic Big Bloom, and sweet. I also treated any sadhu that were showing deficiencies with the same mix. With all 3 fertilizers added the water was at a little over 900ppm. It was a slight bit too strong for some of the BB and Sadhu. I figured this would be the case as I have read about BB being somewhat sensitive to fertilizers. The nute burn is very minor on the plants that even have it and is much preferable to the deficiencies they were having. I had 1 sadhu and a couple WW show very dramatic turn arounds. The sadhu that looked the worse was yellow all over and had very aggressive brown spots on it, same as 1 of the WW. I treated those plants before the 36 hour dark period and by the time the lights came back on they were completely green again and all spotting had come to a halt. The larger plants are still putting on about an inch a day in height but this is only an estimate as I haven't taken any measurements in the last couple of weeks. Unfortunately the lollipopping isn't going very well for 3/4s of the WW and BB. Most of the BB had too high an internodal length for proper lollipoppoping and I waited a little too long to top the WW. Between 5-8 plants will probably come out perfectly lollipopped though. The number of branches on the BB and WW range from 12-18. I have over 4 dozen cuttings going from those plants as well. I have cut down 15 male sadhu at this point leaving me with 39 plants left. I expect to cut another dozen or so within the next week. Only 2 of the skunk x haze were showing any signs of sex yesterday and those were just too small from me to determine one way or the other. Overall, the plants are looking way way better than this time last cycle, are taller, greener, and have 4 more branches on average. I am hoping to pull over an ounce per plant dry off the BB and WW and I will be happy with anything over 10g a piece off the sadhu.

Pulled 3 male skunk x haze this evening. 21 remain

All larger plants are showing flowers. I have cut 3 more skunk x haze and a few more sadhu. I have 34 sadhu left with 2 of those are highly suspected of being hermaphrodites. Only a couple aren't showing signs of sex so even if I have to cut 2 hermaphrodites I will still end up with a female/male ratio above 50%. Also, all but 1 of the sadhu that were in 1 gallon pots instead of 2 gallon pots ended up being male.

Plants are looking great! Tallest one is a WW that is 37 inches. There are 4-5 more almost as tall. The older sadhu are between 16 and 23 inches tall and the younger sadhu are all around a foot tall. I set 8 sexed skunk x haze and 2 BB clones outside today. I have 9 more skunk x haze that have yet to show their sex. I also have about 3-4 dozen BB and WW clones rooting now at a friends house. Some of these will be going outside and some will be grown indoors by a buddy of mine.

Im currently in the 7th week of flowering with Blueberry Dutch passion & so I have a few questions:

1) Did you top any of your blueberrys, if so what was the hight of the tallest one?

2) Did you give the BB any veg time?

3) What is the capacity of the pots you keep the BB in?

4) How long does you BB take from the 1st day of flowering to harvest?

iloveit said:

Im currently in the 7th week of flowering with Blueberry Dutch passion & so I have a few questions:

1) Did you top any of your blueberrys, if so what was the hight of the tallest one?

2) Did you give the BB any veg time?

3) What is the capacity of the pots you keep the BB in?

4) How long does you BB take from the 1st day of flowering to harvest?

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1: Topped all the plants at between 10 and 14 inches.

2: I give 7 weeks of veg starting from when I first put water to the seed. This was unnecessary, 5 weeks would have been enough had the FIM worker properly on all my plants.

3: BB are in 4.25 gallon pots.

4: 56 days, give or take a day or two.

just checking in dude they are looking awesome when you think youll start the lolli trimming?

dopewear said:

just checking in dude they are looking awesome when you think youll start the lolli trimming?

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I already started it, sort of. The key to getting a good lollipop is topping at the right time. Out of 21 plants, I only got a half dozen or so at the right time, mostly WW. Most of the BB had too high an internodal length to ever lollipop them right. I think the BB would prefer to just grow a single cola. Plus, I got a little greedy, waiting for more branching nodes instead of topping when I should have. Also, instead of using my normal topping technique I used the FIM method this time around. It didn't take on 5 plants and they had to be re-topped later in the game. By not taking off enough of the growing tip, I did not interrupt the production of the branching inhibitor hormone that takes place in the tallest growing shoot. The few that did end up lollipopped are mostly in the back of the grow area. I will take individual pics of these plants the next time I have them out for watering. All thats left to do in terms of lollipopping these plants is to keep pulling off all the buds and shoots that are trying to grow out of the lower 18 inches of the plant and to remove the lower fan leaves as well. I have been putting off removing the lower fan leaves because they are all still very healthy and I just have a mental block about picking off perfectly healthy leaves. I had all I could take of that removing a few upper fan leaves that were badly shading some growing shoots a couple days ago.

Thanks dude.

Had a serious growth spurt over the past couple days. One day the tallest BB are 3 inches below the lip of the hood, 24 hours later it's 4 inches above the hood! The BB definitely aren't my cup of tea and really kinda suck for lollipopping. They are stretching way too much and due to the lower branches growing more horizontally than vertically I am having to chop most off. Due to the extreme differences in lower branch quality I have decided to experiment a little with the BB. I am removing all the lower spindly branches on all but one BB plant. I know these are too far down to produce anything but crap bud and I'd rather the energy go where it can be useful. I am ending up with a a range of 3-8 branches per BB. I want to see how much difference there is in the weights of the top buds on plans that have had all their lower branches stripped versus plants that have many branches left on. Also, will the difference in top bud size be made up for by lower buds. I know it's not really a true lolipop method but it's the best I can do with that growth pattern. WW are looking fantastic, have stopped stretching, and got nice little nuggets starting. Also, except for 1 WW, all have taken very well to the FIM and have ideal growth patterns for lollipopping. Due to lower branches growing almost vertically and in most cases getting within 7 inches of the topmost growing tips, I was able to keep between 11-18 branches per plant! Sadhu is also very healthy.

Im considering lollipopping my BB during the next grow to see how tall they get even though Ive heard BB is not a great big yielder, they say its best to TOP or FIM them. Post pics of your progress especially the BBs.

iloveit said:

Im considering lollipopping my BB during the next grow to see how tall they get even though Ive heard BB is not a great big yielder, they say its best to TOP or FIM them. Post pics of your progress especially the BBs.

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The Blueberries pretty much suck for lollipopping. They grow as if there is no disruption at all to the levels of inhibitor hormone. Usually after topping the lowest branches will grow the fastest with the grow rate going down as you get closer to where the plant is topped. This allows the bottom branches to catch up to the upper ones and hopefuly all the tops will be in plane when flowering is started. The exact opposite happened for my blue berries. The top branches grew way faster than the bottom ones after toping/FIM. However, I did note that my strain of BB seems to have more sativa in it than BBs normally do. This would account for the narrower leaves and longer internodal spaces.

Just found out my "blue berry" isnt blue berry at all. It is White labels version of blue berry which is being renamed white gold. Seems to have a lot more sativa in the background than a traditional BB. The WW are covered with little popcorn buds but the white gold(WG) is just getting started. I am probably going to have to bud them for 9-10 weeks instead of 8. The height of some of the WG is also becoming a problem and I have had to resort to bending the tops on several plants. The sadhu are looking great. Nice chunky buds forming. 2 of the sadhu did get nute burn from the last fertilizer application a few days ago. 1 of the WG and 1 of the WW also have some slight nute burn. Another WW is showing spots again and was becoming a little yellow so I gave it some more fertilizer during the last watering. It looks greener now but the spots are still spreading i think. I will test the ph tomorrow to make sure that isnt the problem. Only the spotted WW and the other WW that is slightly nute burned were fertilized during the last watering which was last saturday. All other WW and WG got plain water. Only sadhu showing deficiencies were watered and responded well. Now some of the WW and a couple of the WG are showing some yellowing so I will be giving most of them a half dose of fertilizer at the next watering.