Lollipop White Widow/Blueberry/Sadhu

greenfirekilla420 said:

Looking great bro. If you don't mind me asking what is the sadhu's pedigree? Ive never heard of it sounds interesting.

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Sadhu is from mandala seeds. It doesnt have a named pedigree. Mandala says only that, "Sadhu is a combination of a specially adapted landrace male from the Himalayan heights and one of our short flowering indica-sativa hybrids." The seeds i'm using are F2s. I originally got the sadhu for free with a seed order and just bred them together for outdoor seeds that didn't make it outdoors. I ended up using the seeds as filler on my last grow and discovered that sadhu is the absolute fire. Very very sweet smelling (like watermelon while growing), dense chunky buds, high resin, low impact, great smooth flavor, and a crippling stone. If mandala made feminised seeds I would grow it every time. My only beef with sadhu is it is a fertilizer pussy. Very easy to burn even with organics.

Oh ok do they stay short? If they do they sound interesting. Sucks about the fert tolorance.

They stay pretty short. They are around 18 inches tall when I switch the lights and they finish a little over 3 feet.

Wow that is a pretty compact plant. I checked mandala on attitude and they didn't have the sadhu....... oh well looks like I'm sticking with purple wreck from Reservda Privida. It looks dank as hell just gotta wait on them to get seeds in stock. I probably won't do another seed order till the fall just clone the strains I got now till the seeds come in.

www.dope-seeds.com has them in stock. Shipping is fastest I've found, about 9-10 days from order to mailbox.

Will start topping some of the WW and BB tonight or tomorrow after work. Will post fresh pics afterwards.

Sounds good.

Did a lot of shit to the plants today. Will post details tomorrow. For now enjoy the pics. These are 5 days since the last pics.

Looking great bro. I am sooooo jealous. I wish I could use my HID for my MJ but at the moment its not an option. I'll keep using it for legal plants to keep anyone thinking I grow lol. Stop by my grow I need someone with some good knowledge so if I get into a problem I can get it fixed pretty quick. I know enough to get me by this is my 4th grow. The link is in my signature.

Peace

Yesterday: I FIM'd 12/21 of the BB and WW. This is my first time trying FIM and looking at it a day later I think I may have left too little of the shoot on some on the plants. I will try leaving a little more on the other 9 so I will know which way is best for my next cycle. I also added between 1 and 2 tbs of lime to the WW and BB then worked it into the top couple inches of the soil in order to finish getting the ph up to where I want it without flushing again. I didn't activate it yet because I am planning on fertilizing tomorrow and didn't want the soil to be wet already. They are out of immediate ph danger thanks to the flush anyways. I added a tsp of lime to all the sadhu in 1 gallon pots. A few of the sadhu have been showing some progressing nitrogen deficiency and two are showing quickly progressing P deficiency on the bottom two leaves. Symptoms first appeared about 4 days ago but I wanted to watch the progression so I didn't misdiagnose. To solve the problem I fed the sadhu a 40-45% dose of FoxFarm Grow Big. Progression of the P deficiency sems to have slowed or possibly stopped but it will take a couple more days to be sure. Included with the nutes was 8ml of Sweet from botanicare. I've never used any supplements besides Super Thrive but Sweet was guaranteed to make a difference in yield by my local hydro shop owner so I figured I'd at least try it. Noticed some stippling on a couple WW today isolated to the oldest two sets of leaves. It is very minor and can only be seen from a few inches away. It looks just like the stippling that occured on my younger sadu seedlings after I treated them with Neem and tobacco water. It is possible its from the same thing and just took longer to show on the more mature plants but it is something I willl have to monitor. The stipppling on the smaller sadhu has progressed only slightly since I first saw it but they are now also showing signs of nutrient deficiency (nitrogen and maybe something else) so I gave them a 25% dose of Grow Big. I'm sure being in peat pots for so long is also complicating things and since I didn't get my delivery again today it will be at least Monday before I can finally rescue the poor guys. I hope they don't get too fucked up before then. I also potted the 24 skunk x haze seedlings that are going outside in a few weeks.

Just wanted to re-post these pics side by side so everyone could get a better idea of the growth rate. Pics cover a 13 day span. I did rotate 3-5 of the pots sometime between the first second and third pics but there is no change in positions between the 3rd and 4th pic.

Still looking great bro. Hope you get the deff in order. How long are you planning on vegging these ladies?

I switch the lights on the 18th. Decided not to give the BB and WW any more nutes and simply activate the lime instead to finish fixing the ph. I noticed today that half a dozen or so have turned a really dark green approaching nitrogen overdose. It is mostly the BB and I remember reading somewhere that they were sensitive to fertilizers. I think the original dose of nutes may have been unavailable until I raised the ph. That would also account for the growth spurt over the last week. The 3 large plants that do have a few spots look more like nute burn than any sort of deficiency now. I did notice one WW has some minor yellowing of the veins but only compared to the others and it's too slight to be able to tell if there even IS a problem much less diagnose. Since all the WW and BB are still growing great and I can count all the spots on all the plants on two hands I'm not going to fertilize again until the start of flowering. I'd much rather have a deficiency go for a few days than risk burning my plants. Out of the 2 sadhu that were showing P deficiency 1 has stopped progressing and the other has at least slowed to a crawl. All 14 sadhu in 1 gallon pots and the 41 still stuck in peat pots are looking much much better overnight. Most of the yellow is gone now.

Damn man sorry to hear that. Atleast you didn't lose any. Can't wait to see the ladies in a couple days.

Pre-flowers starting to show on some of the larger plants.

Alright that is always exciting!!!!

Seeing some mg deficiency on 2 WW and a handful of the sadhu in the gallon pots. Also, 3 of the sadhu in peat pots got a little nute burn from the other day. I did a runoff test on one of the BB that I had gotten up to 6.4 after the flush and it's ph had dropped to 6.0 somehow. This happened despite having activated the lime a day beforehand. On the other hand, the skunk x haze that i planted into my old soil are doing great and all symptoms of ph problems have stopped. I can't wait till this grow is finished and I can start again with my old soil instead of this damned pro-mix. I'm gonna hit all the plants showing mg deficiency with a foliar spray of some calmag tomorrow since the ph is still keeping it from being taken in through the roots. I'll follow up with another flush next weekend. Out of 101 plants going right now only about 10 are showing any problems whatsoever and even those problems are fairly minor so i'm pretty pleased so far. At this time last cycle the ph had gotten so fucked I had 1 sadhu almost leafless and with a ph in the mid 3s when I started flushing. If memory serves, I think I got over 30 grams dry off that plant. Since I based this grows yield projections off the average yields of my last grow, there is basically no way I can be disappointed short of my house burning down. Last cycle yielded around a pound dry off of 16 plants. This cycle I'm doing approximately 48 plants after sexing, assuming a 50% male/female ratio, I'm hoping to total a little over 1000 grams dry. I seem to have done the FIM right on all but 1 of the plants i have topped so far. If my pots show up tomorrow I will be potting all of the sadhu still in peat pots and hanging my other T5. This will only give them 13 days in the larger pots before the start of flowering but after seeing the pics taken over the last 13 days I'm sure they will be at least a foot or more tall when I switch the lights. Since the sadhu stretch a bit more than the WW and the BB, they should catch up to the other strains during flowering or at least get close. I will begin the lollipopping process this week as soon as I can get my buddy to bring his cloning kit over. No use letting those lower branches go to waste. I will post more pics in the next couple of days.

Forgot to mention, the gnat problem is getting a little out of hand so I'm gonna try running a bug zapper during the dark cycle for the last couple weeks of veg and use the potato trick to get the larva out of the soil. If it's not ungodly expensive I will also buy some predators.

Sorry bout not getting pics posted yet. Been super busy at work. Will try and get them up later tonight. Many WW and a couple BB are showing Mg spots now and I accidently burned on of the BB with the calmag spray. The calmag seems to be working on some of the plants but not others.

QUESTIONS:

Does anyone know how long it should take for symptoms to stop spreading once the plant has enough mg? Whats the best dosage of Calmag for foliar spraying? How long should i wait before respraying?

Here are some pics from today. This is 41 days from initially starting the seeds. Mg deficiency is getting really bad. Only 6 of the WW and BB arent showing any symptoms. Only on the BB that I burnt with the calmag have the symptoms totally stopped progressing. It slowed down the spots on the others I sprayed but only for a few days. I'm going to flush the BB and WW again tonight with clear-ex and a 25% nutrient solution. Hopefully this will help more than the spray as a few are showing some slight N deficiency too. The skunk x haze are still doing great and I got all the sadhu into their finally pots 2 days ago. About 6/41 of the smaller sadhu got a little burn from the last fertilizer dose but nothing of concern. I can notice a substantial difference in size just after 2 days in the larger pots. I'm hoping they will be around 10 inches when I turn the lights over next week. The growth rate on the BB and WW has been a little over an inch per day over the last 3 days or so. Also, I got my seeds in today and the free packet that came with them was Short Stuff! It's an auto-flowering strain with a Willy's Wonders and NL#2 lineage. Willy's just happens to be one of my personal favorites from way back and I'm super stoked about getting to smoke some again in only a couple months! I had been considering trying an autoflowering strain again for the last couple months but I just didn't want to spend the money on the seeds just yet. Now I get to breed em and do at least 2 outdoor crops before the end of the season. I just really hope I don't get a bunch of F2 throwbacks. I have grown an autoflowering strain once before. It was lowryder #1 right and it was right after the strain was developed. The potency left a lot to be desired but I've read that extensive hybridization has solved the low potency problem for good. In fact, lowryder #1 isn't even offered anymore. I suspect this is because compared to #2 and all the other crosses it sucked balls.