Lockout or hungry?

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Beefcurtins

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Hey so I’m on week 7 of my Canuk cookies elite strain autos and lsd25 and the ones I’m using Gaia green all purpose and bloom 50/50 mix on we’re starting to look hungry so I started feeding and they just kept looking more and more hungry and Ive top dressed over twice the recommended now and they still just look hungrier. So now I’m thinking it’s lockout. Haven’t checked ppm or ph runoff yet til tomorrow or next day but would like to see if anyone has any input on my situation. Thanks two others look like this as well but not taking them out to get a decent enough pic lol
 

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Check PH first should be 6.5 to 7.0. What is your soil based out of "only Gaia green all purpose and bloom 50/50 mix?". Do you have container drainage? This looks like nutrient burn BIG TIME! If the PH checks out. Flush your containers with PH stable water or rain water.
 
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xXairwolfXx said:
Check PH first should be 6.5 to 7.0. What is your soil based out of "only Gaia green all purpose and bloom 50/50 mix?". Do you have container drainage? This looks like nutrient burn BIG TIME! If the PH checks out. Flush your containers with PH stable water or rain water.
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Wouldn’t be burns. It’s happy frog soil with the recommended 3 tbsp per gal. And at week 5 they were obviously getting hungry I had just gave them first feeding. The signs are the exact same just on more leaves so it’s definitely hungry just need to know whether it’s lack of available food or caused by lockout. I’m thinking there’s not enough microbes in the soil to break down all the food so it’s just being wasted.
 
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I got a new stronger light it’s raised my vpd and makes me water so much more so it’s eating like crazy compared to what I’m used to. The other plants with indoOne all purpose are fine
 
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CaliRootz88

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Beefcurtins said:
Hey so I’m on week 7 of my Canuk cookies elite strain autos and lsd25 and the ones I’m using Gaia green all purpose and bloom 50/50 mix on we’re starting to look hungry so I started feeding and they just kept looking more and more hungry and Ive top dressed over twice the recommended now and they still just look hungrier. So now I’m thinking it’s lockout. Haven’t checked ppm or ph runoff yet til tomorrow or next day but would like to see if anyone has any input on my situation. Thanks two others look like this as well but not taking them out to get a decent enough pic lol
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A top dress may take up to 7-10 days to become available to the plant. Do you use microbes/fungis and humic/fulvic acids to help the root zone and the breakdown of things? Another issue I foresee is using Gaia green all purpose in late flower. All purpose should only be used up until week 3 of flower.
 
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CaliRootz88 said:
A top dress may take up to 7-10 days to become available to the plant. Do you use microbes/fungis and humic/fulvic acids to help the root zone and the breakdown of things? Another issue I foresee is using Gaia green all purpose in late flower. All purpose should only be used up until week 3 of flower.
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Yea I know it takes a bit that’s why I’ve slowly kept giving it more and more since week 5 when I started seeing it eat the bottom leaves up. They are still growing fine and I never have issues like this before so I don’t think and hope it’s not lockout but will see tomorrow when I water. I was going to grab some fish shit last week while I was out but forgot I still might go grab it tho for last month or so of the grow if it will help introduce more mircrobes to break down all the food lol
 
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inth3shadowz

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After experimenting...I'll never use a bloom nutrient again. If you want a healthy non yellowing plant throughout flower, just top dress with something like Dr earth veg the whole way. The whole "take away the nitrogen" thing is a huge mistake.
 
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I’m using it with the all purpose so there’s plenty of nitrogen. I just checked ph is 6-7 and ppm is 1200. So definitely not lockout. It has got to be a lack of microbes therefor lack of available food. Going to get fish shit right now
 
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