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yeah like a lawyer or prosecutor of some kind... I'm afraid the jury is not in his favour XD
I mean at some point its common sense - the more you keep away from each other... Sweden can afford their numbers going slightly up as they dont have that many cases in general. They will be some sort of a rolemodel for the releasing of measures here in Europe in the next months - and so will be our statistics - except that the population density is going to determine how steep (fast in time) the increase is going to be.Paging Dr Howard, Dr Conflict, Dr Howard...
Sweden says its coronavirus approach has worked. The numbers suggest a different story | CNN
Sweden has been an outlier during the coronavirus outbreak. The country has not joined many of its European neighbors in imposing strict limits on citizens' lives, and images of people heading to work in busy streets and chatting at cafes and bars have raised eyebrows.www.cnn.com
yep, lockdowns work. thanks for posting the confirmation.Too bad they weren't under lockdown -- er... wait.
COVID antibody test in German town shows 15 percent infection rate
A team at the University of Bonn has tested a randomized sample of 1,000 residents of the German town of Gangelt and found a 15 percent infection rate
not a good look, AC
tsk tsk Fog, posting memes and graphs that only troll Dr Conflict. our dive instructor/virus expert/famine predictor.View attachment 4548463
Global coronavirus death toll could be 60% higher than reported | Free to read
Mortality statistics show 122,000 deaths in excess of normal levels across 14 countries analysed by the FTwww.ft.com
The death toll from coronavirus may be almost 60 per cent higher than reported in official counts, according to an FT analysis of overall fatalities during the pandemic in 14 countries. Mortality statistics show 122,000 deaths in excess of normal levels across these locations, considerably higher than the 77,000 official Covid-19 deaths reported for the same places and time periods. If the same level of under-reporting observed in these countries was happening worldwide, the global Covid-19 death toll would rise from the current official total of 201,000 to as high as 318,000.
In all the countries analysed except Denmark, excess deaths far outnumbered the official coronavirus death tolls. The accuracy of official death statistics from the virus is limited by how effectively a country is testing people to confirm cases. Some countries, including China, have retrospectively revised up their death tolls from the disease.
“The only unbiased comparison you can make between different countries is by looking at all cause mortality . . . There are so many questions about the rise we’ve seen in death that have not got Covid on the death certificate, yet you feel are inevitably linked in some way to this epidemic.” The extra deaths are most pronounced in urban areas with the worst virus outbreaks, and have completely overwhelmed reporting mechanisms in some. This is especially worrying for many emerging economies, where total excess mortality is orders of magnitude higher than official coronavirus fatalities.
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The unvarnished truth is that testing isn't something that was done either effectively or in large enough numbers early on to enable an accurate death count due to this virus. Other articles show that the number of people who tested positive for antibodies to Coronavirus far outnumber those who were tested positive for the Coronavirus when they were sick with it.
For now, the most crude of statistics -- National Mortality Rate -- is probably the best indicator of how severe the epidemic was. Or, in the case of laggards like the UK, how severe the epidemic is.
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look at a map of Canadas' Northern territories. zero to hardly any.
To bad for members of the Covid Death Cult that one can't gaslight an epidemic.
Canada's Northwest Territories: population 44,000
i'm starting to wonder if lack of testing was planned.
my bad. i was looking at that interactive hopkins map and there wasn't any red at all in northern CA and alot of remote Alaska too.
methinks this is due to trade, but it's just a theory...
Not your bad at all. Most sites list total number dead or total number of cases or something like it. The problem with that way of reporting is a country like the US, which has 320 million in population will always show larger aggregate numbers a smaller country like Sweden (for example). Sweden's number of dead per million is worse, so, it's not as if they did something extra great, they just weathered the epidemic better than the US did. That said when comparing different countries, how they are tested, how many, when and accuracy of testing, all affect the comparison as much as the actual effect of the disease. It's going to take a while to untangle the threads of this mess so we can get a clear look at what actually happened and who handled the epidemic in a way others should follow.
Trump definitely opposed testing. He still does. He didn't even want a cruise ship that was filled with stricken US citizens landing in the US because it would make "his" numbers look bad.
LOL
How about Ca, Wa, Or, and Co secede and start a logical utopia? @doublejj you onboard?? lol.LOL
Speaking of mantis headed reptile overlords,
DeBlasio and Cuomo don't come off as heros in this piece that compares Seattle's and New York's leadership's actions during the early stages of this epidemic. It also cites statements made by a former CDC director who claims if Cuomo and Deblasio had acted like their counterparts in Seattle/WA, as many as 85% of the people who died due to the epidemic in NYC would still be with us.
Seattle’s Leaders Let Scientists Take the Lead. New York’s Did Not
The initial coronavirus outbreaks on the East and West Coasts emerged at roughly the same time. But the danger was communicated very differently.www.newyorker.com
Good politicians should worry about poor children missing school just as much as they worry about the threat of an emerging disease. “That’s why E.I.S. training (Epidemic Intelligence Service training) is so important,” Sonja Rasmussen, a former C.D.C. official, told me. In a pandemic, “the old ways of thinking get flipped around.” She added, “You have to make the kinds of choices that, if you aren’t trained for them, are really hard to make. And there’s no time to learn from your mistakes.”
Today, New York City has the same social-distancing policies and business-closure rules as Seattle. But because New York’s recommendations came later than Seattle’s—and because communication was less consistent—it took longer to influence how people behaved. According to data collected by Google from cell phones, nearly a quarter of Seattleites were avoiding their workplaces by March 6th. In New York City, another week passed until an equivalent percentage did the same. Tom Frieden, the former C.D.C. director, has estimated that, if New York had started implementing stay-at-home orders ten days earlier than it did, it might have reduced covid-19 deaths by fifty to eighty per cent. Another former New York City health commissioner told me that “de Blasio was just horrible,” adding, “Maybe it was unintentional, maybe it was his arrogance. But, if you tell people to stay home and then you go to the gym, you can’t really be surprised when people keep going outside.”
There are plenty of interesting insights in here about the what epidemiologist professionals (as opposed to our forum-pet SCUBA guide-turned Coronavirus expert) actually do. They are part epidemiologist-scientist and part communications specialist. They also didn't try to use tests to determine outcomes, they used tests as public communications tools. Also, pretty clearly, Cuomo botched his job but was saved by Trump's nearly perfect record of taking the wrong steps with each and every stride down this path.
