List of clubs that rip off vendors in Cali
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reggaerican
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Great thread, all this talk of shitty dispenceries has got me wanting to name one good one that I wish never closed down (6 times lol).
Granddaddy purp in richmond was legit.. These guys always paid top dollar, never tried to lowball me and always paid in cash.. Why they can't keep there doors open I will never know..
Right next to them is Green Remedy and these guys are some cool folks, but damn they are cheep. I took them some of my best stuff ever one time and they tried to offer me 2,400 I was like are you serious? I said bring me your best top shelf bud and if it's better than mine it's a deal.. No contest so I walked.
I just don't get it. Why would these clubs sell booboo over quality? I have seen many clubs loose business because of poor selection but still they will not buy quality???
Granddaddy purp in richmond was legit.. These guys always paid top dollar, never tried to lowball me and always paid in cash.. Why they can't keep there doors open I will never know..
Right next to them is Green Remedy and these guys are some cool folks, but damn they are cheep. I took them some of my best stuff ever one time and they tried to offer me 2,400 I was like are you serious? I said bring me your best top shelf bud and if it's better than mine it's a deal.. No contest so I walked.
I just don't get it. Why would these clubs sell booboo over quality? I have seen many clubs loose business because of poor selection but still they will not buy quality???
Dan Kone
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Not the first time I've heard that about Star Buds
really? oh I am interested in this, message me or post in here please. Basically owe me for 30g of shatter still
Dan Kone
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There is a video going around on the internet about it. It was a long time ago and I don't remember exactly what the situation was, but it did involve the Star Buds owner ripping people off. I believe they were employees. I wish I could be more helpful but as I said, it was a couple years ago.
I,ve been a subscriber to these threads for years now. Also been a grower for 5 years, and vending for 3 years as a small collective grow of a few family patients, we always have a abundance of left over meds with our semi warehouse-perpetual grow. usually im just a browser, pick info, and move on. But this subject has hit home, and touch my lively hood, because this is my work, and i take pride in qaulity, but over last 2 years since i have been vending, prices has dropped, and clubs are looking for the deal of the century, and still do consignment. My main question here is although i know theres noone gonna give up there watering hole, but what about a legit website for vendors to avertise there product and lab results? This is getting serious due to the competition and donations plumiting because clubs capping prices at 2200-2400. And i,ve even started having concentrates made from nugs, how do i price lab tested 75% shatter? by gram, or ounce? just another opinion from others to put things in perspective helps. main goal is providing quality meds at resonable prices, and a way to continue to do so.
Dan Kone
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Unavoidable at a certain point. This isn't like black market dealing. This is vending to businesses. Most clubs do not pay up front and when they do they expect a massive discount for it. If you're a successful vendor it's very likely that you're supplying 3-10 clubs, maybe more. It's nearly impossible to find 5 clubs who are all going to give you fair market value up front. If you want to make real money it's almost a certainty these days that you will have to get paid on consignment most of the time. The most successful business relationships I've had were based on consignment.
I haven't been to a club yet that will take more than 10k worth of product and cash you out on the spot on a regular basis. It may happen once in a while, but you can't make a career off of that. If you want to make real money it's likely you're going to have to have that kind of relationships where they are taking $10k+ of product on a visit. That's not going to be a cash up front every time unless you're giving them such a great deal you aren't making much anyways.
Dan Kone
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Fantastic idea
thanks for the reply. Yes i have been successful in past to a point, then expansion took place, and the market started dropping alot. I went from 2800 to 2400 almost over night. And this was 3 different delivery services. Then i totally understand the building business relationship with consignment, and i think too maybe i should look more into doing consignment at clubs that will pay better prices, especially for lab tested meds. My only issue is being reasonable time frame for final donations, what is fair in your opinion. ( I have done consignment with clubs and delivery services, and although i eventually got all donations, it has never been on time, dragged out a couple times} And just never felt right for the quality med, with waiting a month.
Dan Kone
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Two weeks is standard. Sometimes 3 if a club is really backed up. If any club tries to tell you it's going to be over a month, leave immediately. 1 month+ is usually because of financial problems. Most of the time that means the owner is dipping into the club cash designated for vendors so he can party with the money and they are paying off vendors on a pyramid scheme.
Try to work with reputable clubs. For your first consignment (and second really) never leave them with more than 1 pack. If they want more explain to them that you'll be happy to leave them more once you've transacted with them a couple times. If they keep pushing you saying they can only do business with you if you leave them more then it's a scam. Demand cash up front or walk.
We are starting to get to the point where many thieving owners are getting pushed out of the business. You can sue a club if they refuse to pay you now. I'd say there are about half as many thieving owners as there were 2 years ago. But they are still out there.
The best way to do consignment deals is to know another vendor there. Ask them if they pay on time. Any club who doesn't pay EXACTLY when they say they will every time is untrustworthy. They might not all be thieves, but they are irresponsible and not the type of people you should trust. If you can find confirmation that they do pay then you are usually in good shape.
I don't like consignment, none of us do, but it's an unfortunate reality of doing business. All the clubs that I know of that take high volume and pay well all do consignment.
exactly along the lines im thinking. thanks for the advice, i,ll have to do more networking with the right people, and will try a few reputable clubs on consignment. Im really interested in starting a vendin g site, and maybe I,ll see lawyer to see if theres a way too do so in a manner to where it doesnt seem to be as if we are whole selling units unlimitless. maybe a site for growers to show off there meds and lab results, then site can be refered too by club or donating party. growers pay a small fee to advertise. im from bay area, and in order to stay above water vending I feel we need a tool, a edge.
Dan Kone
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Oh. Also for SF there is kind of a rule where clubs pay cash up front other than SPARC and a couple of the other big ones you shouldn't take consignment in SF.
i,ll make calls tomorrow to show off some lab tested concentrates, havent had too much networking with the city, one bad experience where they walked out the room with my unit of meds without permission, then came back definately wanting it, but at the lowest possible donation. i tied my unit back up, was curtious, then left back room. And my meds was short gram an half when i weighed after returning home. they were some real dicks for that. turned me off of trying to vend in city. dont remember club name, but wont be hard to find if i see store front or street. Anyhow, i will try, we have quite a bit of keylime cut gsc coming soon. I personally have 2 strains i keep in rotation that clubs tend to be very interested in, an get fairly ok donation still for topshelf, thats purple caddillac (purpled all the way) and purple alien og, harvested at 66 days, thc lab test always above 20% when i test, and so far concentrates f/strains have been in high 70% and 80% easily. just for those farmers who wants to know what moves with high test results. by the way i use steephill labs, and my test are high because of quality i feel, but at sc will it be higher you think? just curious.
Dan Kone
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I had a couple clubs in the city I vended to, but I generally avoided it when ever I could. It's not a great experience and I always felt very unsafe. Grass Roots was my main one up there. They give decent money all cash up front, but they were incredibly flaky. I stuck with the south bay mainly.
SC labs used to give higher results but they don't these days. New testing standards. I went for 8 months where I didn't have a concentrate test under 80%. Now 80% is rare. The same quality stuff that used to test 86-89% consistently tests 72-74% now. Had a 94% test from them, retested the same stuff and it tested 72% under the new standard. They are pretty much on the same standard as steep hlll these days.
Rite now, The delivery services are whats working, but even they are trying to get meds extremely low. I appreciate the direction, and even though Im no where near being pushed out this industry, the big pay cuts, and our expansion last year, we definately felt the down side. Its basically time to restructure, and network, plus be smart. Does sc labs charge $100 a concentrate like steephill?
Dan Kone
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$50 for concentrate potency, 130 for potency + rst. If you get a lot of tests every month you can get in on package testing.
hyroot
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Know of any good clubs for vendors in so cal. The ones I dealt with either closed or switched to delivery. Its been awhile since I've tried to vendor to a club, My last few batches a gave quite a bit away to sick patients. Not making money sucked. It was kind of nice to help people that cant afford to shop at dispensaries since all their loot goes to doctors.
Milovan
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Yes you can sue but it will be thrown out of court
as this happened to a good friend of mine in L.A. so
suing is out the window.