Liquid Karma on seedlings?

So, I have got 1 week old seedlings that were transferred into Roots organic soil a few days ago, I am going to be using the Botanicare pure blend line with the supplements. My question is, should I start using some liquid Karma and at what strength? It was suggested that I use it now by a friend, but I know you shouldnt use nutes for the first few weeks, but the liquid karma seems to be weak and more of a stimulant. I am also not sure how strong this Roots soil already is.
Any input and experiences with these products would be deeply appreciated, I need to water tonight.
Thx guys!!!!!

the seedling has everything it needs to get the job done from the day it cracks till it starts making leaves.

leave it.
you're not gonna help it.

question : how do you know liquid karma is weak?

you dont. & your friend is clueless.

listen to your instinct which is why you asked... and very not foolish. bravo.

in fact, control humidity & moisture before worrying about feeding seedlings.

control ph for sure.

i like to innoculate them with myco & bennie bacto early in the game ...in order to get the herd fator in effect & crowd out any nasties that could pop up.

root stimulator too.
but u definitely need some skills & a ppm pen to play with that.

worry about the gnats in that roots crapganic soil.

do not worry about feeding a plant children.

gudkarma said:

the seedling has everything it needs to get the job done from the day it cracks till it starts making leaves.

leave it.
you're not gonna help it.

question : how do you know liquid karma is weak?

you dont. & your friend is clueless.

listen to your instinct which is why you asked... and very not foolish. bravo.

in fact, control humidity & moisture before worrying about feeding seedlings.

control ph for sure.

i like to innoculate them with myco & bennie bacto early in the game ...in order to get the herd fator in effect & crowd out any nasties that could pop up.

root stimulator too.
but u definitely need some skills & a ppm pen to play with that.

worry about the gnats in that roots crapganic soil.

do not worry about feeding a plant children.

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So Roots is crap then huh?

They are showing their 2'nd set of leaves(the 3 bladed ones), thats why I was wondering, in the past my seedlings took quite a while to get going and these ones just started on speed. Got my seeds last monday in the mail, soaked them that night, woke up and they were all cracked with the tap starting to come out, that evening put them in some grow plugs, and by the next afternoon they had all popped out. that was wed. By thursday night all of the first single leaves looked nice and the roots were coming out of the bottom of the grow plug, so I went and got soil and threw them in 5 gallon smart pots. Its been one week since they popped out of the plugs and like I said they are on their second set of leaves, So I thought they might need something to help with the root growth because they are definitely top heavy and starting to tilt over, the stem is still very weak.

It says on the botanicare feed chart I just saw to use it for seedlings and cuttings, any one used it?
http://botanicare.net/sites/default/files/BotanicareFeedSheet.pdf

gudkarma said:

question : how do you know liquid karma is weak?

you dont. & your friend is clueless.

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I think he knew it was weak from the NPK values which are 0.1-0.1-0.5. It's also weak from a ppm contribution perspective.

I would not suggest using LK until the plant is bigger and even then, it's not needed.

Jug Stomper said:

So, I have got 1 week old seedlings that were transferred into Roots organic soil a few days ago, I am going to be using the Botanicare pure blend line with the supplements. My question is, should I start using some liquid Karma and at what strength? It was suggested that I use it now by a friend, but I know you shouldnt use nutes for the first few weeks, but the liquid karma seems to be weak and more of a stimulant. I am also not sure how strong this Roots soil already is.
Any input and experiences with these products would be deeply appreciated, I need to water tonight.
Thx guys!!!!!

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i use it on my clones .. 1/4 strength after 2 weeks .. but im not sure of the soil your using .. sorry couldnt help more

happy growin

Yeah, I think I will pass on the Karma for now. Thanks for the help guys!

homebrewer said:

I think he knew it was weak from the NPK values which are 0.1-0.1-0.5. It's also weak from a ppm contribution perspective.

I would not suggest using LK until the plant is bigger and even then, it's not needed.

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well it does have a ph of 3.7 (3.8 ish)... so mix that wrong and seedling children be done.

With the type of soil you are using you shouldnt need anything but plain water (preferably Reverse Osmosis) for a while. I have extensive knowledge of the Botanicare Pure Blend line and have used it with a lot of success for quite a while. IMO Roots Organic soil isnt a very good medium to use with the pure blend line. It especially isnt a good soil to transplant new seedlings into right away. I always start my seedlings ( and all other plants for that matter) in something that is absent of any nutrients whatsoever so I can control all levels of micro and macro nutrients. If you are gonna go the botanicare route something along the lines of Sunshine Mix #4, Promix, or Coco would be better medium choices IMO...

I use Liquid Karma and clonex cloning solution in a weakened solution on my clones in an ez cloner, not sure if it actually helps but i dont think LK is something you should use on seedlings, too fragile

gudkarma said:

well it does have a ph of 3.7 (3.8 ish)... so mix that wrong and seedling children be done.

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Dude, I kept my mouth shut earlier, but damn, its seems like you get off on being condescending and argumentative. Earlier you didnt even know how weak liquid karma was, " how do you know how weak liquid karma is", but all of a sudden you have the EXACT ph level that it comes in before being diluted. Even after I agreed with everyone that I shouldnt use it yet, you still pipe in with that snyde comment, and I know you had to go look look that up, just to ensure everyone else that you got your shit going on. News flash, all nutrients that I have used drop the ph down drastically, I dont know if this was a revelation for you or what.
Grow up man, If your gonna be on a site like this and attempt help and give out tips and wisdom, actually do it. I dont know about you, but its hard for me to take an asshole seriously.
Im sure your really not a asshole, but I know how easy it is in this culture to develop some sort of an elitist mentality.
So take it easy man, relax, and learn a little people skills, because I have no Idea why you are on here unless it is to LEARN, TEACH, or SOCIALIZE, and you cant do those things with that sort of disposition.

just water bro,until you see good veg growth.good luck

CodyKush said:

With the type of soil you are using you shouldnt need anything but plain water (preferably Reverse Osmosis) for a while. I have extensive knowledge of the Botanicare Pure Blend line and have used it with a lot of success for quite a while. IMO Roots Organic soil isnt a very good medium to use with the pure blend line. It especially isnt a good soil to transplant new seedlings into right away. I always start my seedlings ( and all other plants for that matter) in something that is absent of any nutrients whatsoever so I can control all levels of micro and macro nutrients. If you are gonna go the botanicare route something along the lines of Sunshine Mix #4, Promix, or Coco would be better medium choices IMO...

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Well im in it for the run, I'm too broke to rebuy all the stuff I had already bought, but thx for the info. Live and learn.