Lights on for 10 off for 14?

glassblower3000

glassblower3000

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fdd2blk said:
did you make that piece in your avatar? do you have a bigger pic of it?


someone here is till looking for a 3 day timer so they can do 20 hour cycles. lol :weed:



i don't mean to be as hard as i sound. it's all in good fun. :joint::hump::hump:
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yeah I made that piece a few months ago it's a stemless bubb...i have a photobucket account with some old glass on it..but if you want to see that piece up close i will post it in a album on there...my account name is lunaglass....check it out
 
eightenough

eightenough

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even though there is mixed opinion on this topic, i would still like to hear from anyone that has tried this or something like this.
 
jakeman311

jakeman311

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deflator said:
There's no faulting your logic, but can the plant tell time? I thought it was more along the lines of the plant measuring the amount of light time and dark time to tell when to flower. If that is the case, reducing the light too much could cause re-vegetation.
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The plants cant actually tell time per say but what it does do is when there is no light a hormone builds up in the plants and when this hormone reaches a certain level its what tells the plant to flower and they have found that the 12 of UNINTERRUPTED darkenss to be the amount of time it takes. And i say uninterrupted because even just a flash of light will disperse this hormone in the plants cells and the whole process will start over again for that night, you do this enough times and it really starts messing with the plants (hermaphrodites). So its not the amount of light but the amount of darkness and yes the more light in between those 12 hours of darkness the better for growth so like i said you can do 4 hours of light quick finishing plants or 24 hours of light in bettween those dark periods and get monster buds.. it may just take 30-40% longet to finish.
 
eightenough

eightenough

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jakeman311 said:
The plants cant actually tell time per say but what it does do is when there is no light a hormone builds up in the plants and when this hormone reaches a certain level its what tells the plant to flower and they have found that the 12 of UNINTERRUPTED darkenss to be the amount of time it takes. And i say uninterrupted because even just a flash of light will disperse this hormone in the plants cells and the whole process will start over again for that night, you do this enough times and it really starts messing with the plants (hermaphrodites). So its not the amount of light but the amount of darkness and yes the more light in between those 12 hours of darkness the better for growth so like i said you can do 4 hours of light quick finishing plants or 24 hours of light in bettween those dark periods and get monster buds.. it may just take 30-40% longet to finish.
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no one has answered my question really. will this type of lighting(longer dark periods) assist my plants to mature at the end of flower?
 
laceygirl

laceygirl

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eightenough said:
no one has answered my question really. will this type of lighting(longer dark periods) assist my plants to mature at the end of flower?
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From my understanding of the last reply, no... They need 12 hours of darkness to effectively do what they need to do... Since this is planet earth and we have a 24 hour cycle halving it makes sense to tell the plant to go into its final phase... I really don't know why you are bothering 8, if it really worked, don't you think more people, and experienced growers who actually get results would be doing it????
 
jakeman311

jakeman311

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eightenough said:
no one has answered my question really. will this type of lighting(longer dark periods) assist my plants to mature at the end of flower?
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No it will not make them grow any faster the time it takes to mature is in the genetics of the plant. There is a product that will help harden up your flowers at the end but thats as close as you can get really.
 
KushLuvR

KushLuvR

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eightenough said:
no one has answered my question really. will this type of lighting(longer dark periods) assist my plants to mature at the end of flower?
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Yo whats good bro! I too have been researching this method. Im moving in two weeks and don't want to be drying as i move. Im a little bit over 6 weeks into flowering and i started 10/14 on Saturday when I flushed. Since then i've noticed a significant amount of Trich's and pistills turn brownish/red. So i believe this method does work IF your not looking to increase yield anymore (which u already said ur satisfied).

Don't listen to all these guys putting negative comments. Its ur seed bro, if u want to experiment then experiment. Whats the worst that can happen?? less yield? ok big deal,but atleast now you know!!na mean I hate the folks on here that bash everything new like its against the law to try some new shit. Yes this known process of growin weed is set...but how did we get it set? By trying new shit..right


all hatas stop hatin n roll up!!!!!! :joint::joint::joint:
 
eightenough

eightenough

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KushLuvR said:
Yo whats good bro! I too have been researching this method. Im moving in two weeks and don't want to be drying as i move. Im a little bit over 6 weeks into flowering and i started 10/14 on Saturday when I flushed. Since then i've noticed a significant amount of Trich's and pistills turn brownish/red. So i believe this method does work IF your not looking to increase yield anymore (which u already said ur satisfied).

Don't listen to all these guys putting negative comments. Its ur seed bro, if u want to experiment then experiment. Whats the worst that can happen?? less yield? ok big deal,but atleast now you know!!na mean I hate the folks on here that bash everything new like its against the law to try some new shit. Yes this known process of growin weed is set...but how did we get it set? By trying new shit..right


all hatas stop hatin n roll up!!!!!! :joint::joint::joint:
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thanks man. its good to hear from someone who is actually trying this out. you will have to keep me in the loop, i want to see the results.
 
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fdd2blk

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KushLuvR said:
Yo whats good bro! I too have been researching this method. Im moving in two weeks and don't want to be drying as i move. Im a little bit over 6 weeks into flowering and i started 10/14 on Saturday when I flushed. Since then i've noticed a significant amount of Trich's and pistills turn brownish/red. So i believe this method does work IF your not looking to increase yield anymore (which u already said ur satisfied).

Don't listen to all these guys putting negative comments. Its ur seed bro, if u want to experiment then experiment. Whats the worst that can happen?? less yield? ok big deal,but atleast now you know!!na mean I hate the folks on here that bash everything new like its against the law to try some new shit. Yes this known process of growin weed is set...but how did we get it set? By trying new shit..right


all hatas stop hatin n roll up!!!!!! :joint::joint::joint:
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except this isn't "new shit". :eyesmoke:
 
KushLuvR

KushLuvR

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fdd2blk said:
except this isn't "new shit". :eyesmoke:
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Yea to you.....Everyone doesn't have 30 years under the HPS experience. Although some may already know the result of something....people just wanna find out themselves...atleast thats how i am.

but anywho, its all apart of the fun in this hobby
 
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Wetdog

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eightenough said:
even though there is mixed opinion on this topic, i would still like to hear from anyone that has tried this or something like this.
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Yes, it's been tried, close to 30 years ago.

Long story short since my wife 'cleaned' and I can't find my Botany book, is, 10 hrs of light produce nothing but lower yields and reduced potency.

Of course you could duplicate the experiment and find out for yourself.

As noted, if it worked it would be the norm.

A better experiment, if you could find such a timer, would be 24 hours of light then 12 hrs of dark. Anyone know of a timer that will do a 24/12 and repeat reliably?

Wet
 
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fdd2blk

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KushLuvR said:
Yea to you.....Everyone doesn't have 30 years under the HPS experience. Although some may already know the result of something....people just wanna find out themselves...atleast thats how i am.

but anywho, its all apart of the fun in this hobby
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that's all fine and dandy, but when someone has 30 years experience and they know of something that has been tried numerous times and doesn't work, why would you tell them they are wrong?

you can do whatever you want. the results will still be the same. :peace:
 
Uncle Ben

Uncle Ben

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Until you understand the function of phytochrome, you're only knitting around a forum fireplace talking chit. Once the phytochrome trigger has been put into play regarding the flowering response, any more darkness is just reducing the carbos production of the plant. It's the amount of carbos that drives production. That photoperiod trigger can be as soon as ratcheting down from say......a 20/4 to a 14/10, the forum "standard" being 12/12 for da mutts.

Stop fuckin' around with mother nature people! Veg at 20/4, flower at 12/12 which triggers the phytochrome flag, retain as many healthy leaves as you can until harvest and you'll beat the guy next door every time who is bound and determined to fuk with mother nature.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phytochrome

This thread is a perfect example of folks thinking they can push their plants, this time with an oddball photoperiod. Everyone gots to have dar gimmicks.

UB
 
KushLuvR

KushLuvR

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Uncle Ben said:
Until you understand the function of phytochrome, you're only knitting around a forum fireplace talking chit. Once the phytochrome trigger has been put into play regarding the flowering response, any more darkness is just reducing the carbos production of the plant. It's the amount of carbos that drives production. That photoperiod trigger can be as soon as ratcheting down from say......a 20/4 to a 14/10, the forum "standard" being 12/12 for da mutts.

Stop fuckin' around with mother nature people! Veg at 20/4, flower at 12/12 which triggers the phytochrome flag, retain as many healthy leaves as you can until harvest and you'll beat the guy next door every time who is bound and determined to fuk with mother nature.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phytochrome

This thread is a perfect example of folks thinking they can push their plants, this time with an oddball photoperiod. Everyone gots to have dar gimmicks.

UB
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There wouldnt be a party without the great Uncle Ben!!!!
 
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guitarabuser

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Uncle Ben said:
Once the phytochrome trigger has been put into play regarding the flowering response, any more darkness is just reducing the carbos production of the plant.
UB
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A MUCH better response than "you so stupid". Thanks yet again UB.
 
Am I Norml

Am I Norml

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FDD i have a question and it isn't about this thread but it has been bugging me i have 6 reputations but they don't show up in my posts ...do they just show up every so many or how does that work??
 
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