Lighting pick?? 600w HPS or LEC 315 CMH

Growbrough

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I use UVB 9.9 tanning bulbs. I tried out a UVB 10.0 reptile CFL on a grow about 2 years ago and from that point forward UVB will always be in my grow. I put it between two plants and the sides facing the CFL were significantly frostier and you could see the trics actually pointed at the light.

Just don't go overboard with it. 5w per sqft is about right.
you guys should check out agromax pure uv t5 bulbs. they are hot fuego.
 

Colo MMJ

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Not trying to pimp anyone's blog but the Grow Cheaply guy has a little free course and one video on Environment is good.
His point is that the environment mainly temp, humidity and temp of the plants tops is more important than lights or fancy nutes. He is running a wall unit AC and sometimes runs CO2 but says it is not a big deal for CO2.

In the video he is using a cheap wing reflector with a 600 watt bulb (I think a decent bulb Ushino?) and a digital ballast. Cheap stuff. It is about a $179 light set up. He has the light on a light mover/light rail and he clipped a little fan that blows over the bulb. Simple stuff but clever. He said the light mover lets him reach more plants with one light and the plant tops cool off while the light is away from the plant.

He does it cheaply and gets good results.
 

since1991

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If you go with the HPS, I would highly recommend some blue and uvb supplemental light. Your quality and potency will thank you.

600w HPS
2x UVB 10.0 T5/T8 (60-108w) [make extra sure the reflector on this light is aluminum, not white, white does not reflect UVB.
2x 6500k

Put 600w HPS in middle and have 2 standard (but with foil/aluminum reflector) shop lights, 1 on either side, with 1 UVB and 1 6500k in each fixture.
This^^^^. Hps lamps rock...especially the newer double ended 600 watt ones for smaller spaces. You dont have to have 9 or 10 foot ceilings like the super hot 1000 watt de's. That being said...they still kick out heat (air cooled single ended lamps were popular a few years back for this very reason - but it was a trade off). Where hps lamps really shine (even the older single endeds - ) is when you use multiples of them (cross lighting) and mixing them with something else state of the art but in the blue spectrum for a better more potent end product. This is where the newer 315 watt lec lamps come into play. If circumstances dictate you can only have one doubel ended 600 watter for the smaller spaces everyone has....try like all hell to supplement that fixture with a 315 watt lec. Serious. Its like the perfect combination. And it will far surpass a single ended 1000 watt hps or mh in yield and quality. Only drawback is the heat the double ended kicks out. The 315 watt lec supplement lamp...not so much. But definitely....hps and lec lamps go together like peanut butter and jelly. The combined spectrum and intensity is about the best there is(practically and availability wise) right now.
 
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since1991

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If you go with the HPS, I would highly recommend some blue and uvb supplemental light. Your quality and potency will thank you.

600w HPS
2x UVB 10.0 T5/T8 (60-108w) [make extra sure the reflector on this light is aluminum, not white, white does not reflect UVB.
2x 6500k

Put 600w HPS in middle and have 2 standard (but with foil/aluminum reflector) shop lights, 1 on either side, with 1 UVB and 1 6500k in each fixture.
For all the smaller growers and tent guys out there (just about everyone) that want super efficiency ant top quality...i suggest the Sun Systems Grow Beast fixture. Its a 40 inch wide behemoth...but on each end has a 315 lec lamp and in the middle a 600 watt double ended hps in a wide throw reflector. Just watch your heat for the small spaces. This lamp has it all. And if you really wanna set it off for an awesome small garden...throw it on a 6 foot light rail. I cant recommend this one fixture containing 3 lamps enough. Its perfect for all you personal use and tent growers. Its state of the art and has a total spectrum damn near exactly like the sun. Its a pricey lamp (actually not if you factor in buying the 3 lamps in seperate fixtures) but thats a one time buy in for something that will get the job done. And you wont have to buy new bulbs for these fixtures for at least a year..more likely two. I wish they had these when i had a much smaller operation years ago.
 
For all the smaller growers and tent guys out there (just about everyone) that want super efficiency ant top quality...i suggest the Sun Systems Grow Beast fixture. Its a 40 inch wide behemoth...but on each end has a 315 lec lamp and in the middle a 600 watt double ended hps in a wide throw reflector. Just watch your heat for the small spaces. This lamp has it all. And if you really wanna set it off for an awesome small garden...throw it on a 6 foot light rail. I cant recommend this one fixture containing 3 lamps enough. Its perfect for all you personal use and tent growers. Its state of the art and has a total spectrum damn near exactly like the sun. Its a pricey lamp (actually not if you factor in buying the 3 lamps in seperate fixtures) but thats a one time buy in for something that will get the job done. And you wont have to buy new bulbs for these fixtures for at least a year..more likely two. I wish they had these when i had a much smaller operation years ago.
So what size tent would you recommend for the grow beast?
 

since1991

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Its winter where iam at. Cold as fuk outside so if yer in the same climate ya might be able to get away with blowing cold intake air towards the bottom of the tent and an exhaust up top drawing it up but i dunno. In the warmer months...forget it.
 

since1991

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Or just leave thw front doors unzipped and the room the tent is in dark and keep it cold in the room itself. Again...i.dunno. Yer gonna have to figure all that tent cooling jazz yerself. Tents are tricky by nature.
 
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