Lighting for 10'x10' Tent

BBbubblegum

BBbubblegum

Well-Known Member
Things in the 4x4 have been looking nicely, but i really have been craving the need to up the yields. Planning on purchasing a 10x10x6.5 ft tent within the next month, but am a little tripped up on lighting options. Initially considered 4x 1000w hps, but realized the heat and cost/usage would be too high. Now thinking about 4x 600w with a scrog under each light. Would this be enough light to expect 5lbs a cycle? Would LEDs really be a better idea/ how would yield/energy compare ? What are your opinions?

Also: Planning on running a DWC system in the 10x10 with some sort of a resevoir. I was looking at a 4x 5 gallon w/ mixing cell although it is small for this size tent, can anyone recommend anything better for the space?
 
Last edited:
a mongo frog

a mongo frog

Well-Known Member
BBbubblegum said:
Would LEDs really be a better idea/ how would yield/energy compare ?
Click to expand...
Maybe bro if its in your budget. Think about the cob fixtures. There are plenty of people on here doing 1+ units off 400-500 watts of those sluts. So heat would be way less, and yield would be close to the same as 1000 watt hps? Maybe? Could all be bull shit but i doubt it. Check the threads for dried bud pics from cobs, I mean thats what we all want in the end. Good luck!!!
 
BBbubblegum

BBbubblegum

Well-Known Member
a mongo frog said:
Maybe bro if its in your budget. Think about the cob fixtures. There are plenty of people on here doing 1+ units off 400-500 watts of those sluts. So heat would be way less, and yield would be close to the same as 1000 watt hps? Maybe? Could all be bull shit but i doubt it. Check the threads for dried bud pics from cobs, I mean thats what we all want in the end. Good luck!!!
Click to expand...
If i wanted the yield of 2400w hps, how many leds of what size should I buy? Not familiar with cobs or really leds in general.
 
a mongo frog

a mongo frog

Well-Known Member
BBbubblegum said:
If i wanted the yield of 2400w hps, how many leds of what size should I buy? Not familiar with cobs or really leds in general.
Click to expand...
Not exactly sure on the exact pricing but 2000 bucks would be probably get you 4-6pounds every 9 weeks off an og. That would be 4 500 watt cob fixtures so 2000 watts total. Id do it if i wasn't already set up. I got 750 watts of the cob led, but haven't grown with them, so I'm not the expert. But go look at the journals to see if that bud passes as top shelf. A lot of them do.
 
mr4tune

mr4tune

Well-Known Member
Im interested to see what you choose as I'm upping to a 10x10 as well. I'd really like to pound x4 1k's but thats allot of heat that needs the have the right grow area in order to be manageable. Cool enough lung room, and ability to vent the heat outside or to another location.

Going with the 600's will give you allot of extra room to work around the plants within the tent. I always buy a bigger tent only to max out the thing and have no room to work. At least the new tents have zipper panels on all 4 sides, but running 600's will leave you with lots or room for bullshit inside.

I hear great things about the Cob's but the whole LED thing has my head spinning. Allot of info to take in, especially with so many people doing the DIY thing.

Here in Canada I can get a 1000w dimmable with a XXL hood for about $380 shipping included. The 600w is only $50 less, go figure. Yeah they are hot, but they fucking work. If someone knows a panel that can do the same yields and isn't x3 the cost Im all ears.

If I were you I'd go with the 600's. Rock that shit and dial it in by monocropping a good strain or two, and then when you have the cheddar from that process then up your game.

Keep us updated with your choice.
 
homegrown365

homegrown365

Well-Known Member
Greetings:
I have completed 2 grows now w/COBs, 600watts. Kudos to GrowMau5 Greengenes, Supra, Realstyles and Netherfly, all are inspirations.
Both gave very reasonable yields: 1st, 12.5oz +/- dry, frosty, dense buds. 2nd grow, fewer plants, just under 12oz dry. Again, great quality.
If you follow this youtube, you should get a good idea as to what you can expect and DIY COB approach.

Here's my 1st COB grow.
Just something to consider.
Hope this helps.
Success w/ya grow!!!
Stay Safe!!!
 
BBbubblegum

BBbubblegum

Well-Known Member
a mongo frog said:
Not exactly sure on the exact pricing but 2000 bucks would be probably get you 4-6pounds every 9 weeks off an og. That would be 4 500 watt cob fixtures so 2000 watts total. Id do it if i wasn't already set up. I got 750 watts of the cob led, but haven't grown with them, so I'm not the expert. But go look at the journals to see if that bud passes as top shelf. A lot of them do.
Click to expand...
What confuses me is that would those 4x 500w be actually using 2000w? Ive taken a look at journals and seen things like "400w" led fixtures that when plugged into a Kil-A-Watt are showing something like 200w ( Check this for reference http://www.420magazine.com/forums/completed-journals/228497-kingjohncs-twilight-groups-led-432w-spider-cob-seed-cabinet-grow-journal-review.html)
 
Last edited:
BBbubblegum

BBbubblegum

Well-Known Member
mr4tune said:
Im interested to see what you choose as I'm upping to a 10x10 as well. I'd really like to pound x4 1k's but thats allot of heat that needs the have the right grow area in order to be manageable. Cool enough lung room, and ability to vent the heat outside or to another location.

Going with the 600's will give you allot of extra room to work around the plants within the tent. I always buy a bigger tent only to max out the thing and have no room to work. At least the new tents have zipper panels on all 4 sides, but running 600's will leave you with lots or room for bullshit inside.

I hear great things about the Cob's but the whole LED thing has my head spinning. Allot of info to take in, especially with so many people doing the DIY thing.

Here in Canada I can get a 1000w dimmable with a XXL hood for about $380 shipping included. The 600w is only $50 less, go figure. Yeah they are hot, but they fucking work. If someone knows a panel that can do the same yields and isn't x3 the cost Im all ears.

If I were you I'd go with the 600's. Rock that shit and dial it in by monocropping a good strain or two, and then when you have the cheddar from that process then up your game.

Keep us updated with your choice.
Click to expand...
Thanks for the post, I was/am tempted to go with the HPS just because I currently have a 400w that I haven't had much issue with besides heat. 4x 600s would be really cheap but thats alot of heat and it looks like HPS is becoming outdated. Going to gather a little more information and then possible order a single LED panel for now to test how i like it in my 4'x4' tent, and then grab the remaining panels. Looks like everyone using LED is easily getting over 1.0 g/w
 
BBbubblegum

BBbubblegum

Well-Known Member
homegrown365 said:
Greetings:
I have completed 2 grows now w/COBs, 600watts. Kudos to GrowMau5 Greengenes, Supra, Realstyles and Netherfly, all are inspirations.
Both gave very reasonable yields: 1st, 12.5oz +/- dry, frosty, dense buds. 2nd grow, fewer plants, just under 12oz dry. Again, great quality.
If you follow this youtube, you should get a good idea as to what you can expect and DIY COB approach.

Here's my 1st COB grow.
Just something to consider.
Hope this helps.
Success w/ya grow!!!
Stay Safe!!!
Click to expand...
Just subscribed to growmau5, SO IMPRESSIVE! 1.52g/w is unreal. You said you got 12/12.5 zips from a 600w? Does that mean you only got about .6g/w or does your 600w COBs pull less from the wall?
 
mr4tune

mr4tune

Well-Known Member
BBbubblegum said:
Thanks for the post, I was/am tempted to go with the HPS just because I currently have a 400w that I haven't had much issue with besides heat. 4x 600s would be really cheap but thats alot of heat and it looks like HPS is becoming outdated. Going to gather a little more information and then possible order a single LED panel for now to test how i like it in my 4'x4' tent, and then grab the remaining panels. Looks like everyone using LED is easily getting over 1.0 g/w
Click to expand...
Yeah I hear ya man. The heat only becomes an issue if you are not able to completely exhaust it from the area. Anything with larger power needs to get vented outside or into an out building, period. If your exhausting into the same room then your eff'd. I did that my first 1k in a 4x4 tent. Basement would be like 57F in the morning and after the tent was on all day, that 1k would heat my basement to mid 80's. Anywho there's a hundred ways to do that but thats irrelevant since you are right, LED's are the future.

I went down to the local shop and saw the "KindLED" brand. Wicked features. The board they were running was a 1000w (actual draw 600w). It was setup in a 5x5 tent and the heat (or lack there of) was insane. Problem with the panel? $2700. Now thats Canadian so you fellas south of the border probally get them allot cheaper. Buddy says they are getting 2# a light all day long (so long as you know wtf your doing to begin with).

For be to rig up 4 panels right now would require a small bank loan to pay for it so I'm going to pull the trig on the 1k's, rock those and then upgrade once the cash is rolling.

I've never been a fan of DIY lighting. Hats off to those that are. Of all the DIY things in the tent, the lighting is the last thing I want to build. Everything else aside from a light or fan can be home made though... Again mad props to those rocking the DIY cob's.
 
BBbubblegum

BBbubblegum

Well-Known Member
Waiting to hear back quotes from some DIY COB companies. In the mean time I've been looking at pre-built LEDs. Might get a $600 600w to test in the 4x4, and if it performs well possibly just buy 3 more panels to form the 10x10 running only about 1600w actual all together.
 
V

VegasWinner

Well-Known Member
bseeds said:
he could use a bigger driver to run 5 and not 4
Click to expand...
True. I like 185 series, and n ot so much the 240 and 320 series, higher power. If you are going to work with higher power you should use more caution. I prefer the lower power, 200w per driver is pretty awesome. Four COBS on a Corn is just so nice. Put a couple of angles on each end and you have end hangers to slide on a suspended rail, just like GreenGenes does with PLC lights. great concept of modularity and flexibility, two noble causes for a great grow. peace
 
D port Growth

D port Growth

Well-Known Member
have you considered the third option?
4 1000's on 240 voltage. all you need is new breakers new receptacle sockets check the gauge of wire also (only if your house breaker box has no 240) running 1000 digital ballast at 120v they average about 8.8 to 9.4 amps. On 240 voltage the same 1000 w lights are now 4.8 to 5.4 amps.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top