Light question

IndieGrower

Active Member
I heard that using different light spectrums during the budding phase of the grow will have different effects on the trichomes of the plant.
Is this true?
The same person that said this also said that if hps lights are used during the budding phase it will produce more of a couch lock effect when the buds are smoked, compared to if mh were used only in the budding phase, it would produce more of a mental high effect. Has anyone experimented with this?
I know that some lights have different effects on the amount of bud produced but my question is about the effects of the trichomes.

thanks
 

passerbye

Well-Known Member
Good question. That will take some serious scientific study. You wouldhave to actually grown it, break it down checimcally and then measure the thc.

I have used MH, HPS and LED in all stages. Currently I have settled into HPS plus LED.

HPS grows more flowers. tricomes are affected by humdity more than anything. When the air is dry, theplant protects itself by "sealing up" the plant. It does this with tricomes. They prevent water loss (evaporation). So the best way to fur up your girls is to get the humid down below 40 (I go to 25 if I can and I force cold dry over them in the last few weeks).

I have noticed no differences in tricome based on light source. HPS grow thicket denser flowers, MH stretches those out and produces more leafy material.

And do not forget, tricome production is largely a product of genetics. Pic seeds from typcially fuzzy varitials, keep your hum low, and you will have a 1970's crotch going on in your cloet in no time!

BTW humidity is good during veg, or at the least it downt hurt them. I run 50-60% duering veg.
 

racerboy71

bud bootlegger
i have heard that mh lights do have more of an effect on producing tric's.. i think that mh do produce more tric's than hps, but i have no proof of it, this is only from what i have read..
i have never heard of the hps and couchlock type of high thing before.. i think that you can get both types of high from either type of light.. it just all depends on what color the trics are when you harvest the plant.. more amber color trics will give a more couch lock high, and more cloudy will give a more uppy high..
 

passerbye

Well-Known Member
in my experience wheelchair vs energetic is a function of genetics and also curing.

Deep curing allows bacteria to eat the THC. Then then break these compounds down into other extoic molecules. I am only parroting something I read from Ed R book. But ime it is ture. When I deep cure for 6 weeks keeping them dangerously moist, it turn wheelchair-ish. If you dry them completely and let them sit for less than 3 weeks, you get a more airy, mental high.

again. genetics play a big part in this.
 

IndieGrower

Active Member
Hmmm.... well I guess that Im going to have to do a little experimentation with this. Light spectrum is affecting the high is very interesting, I guess that I could grow the same strain and have the hps in budding as the control group and mh in another room as experimental group and use a digital microscope to collect data on the trichome production.
 

riddleme

Well-Known Member
Check out CMH !!! do the research, the reason you don't hear more about them is because you can only get 250 & 400 watts, and they only work with magnetic ballast (NOT Digital)

They are closetest to the sun of any bulb in the mh hps family and they have UV :bigjoint:

It is the UV that affects the high

there are a few grows on this site using them check out "Welcome to the Jungle" in the grow journals.

Then Google Ceramic Metal Halide, you'll be amazed :bigjoint:
 

IndieGrower

Active Member
Check out CMH !!! do the research, the reason you don't hear more about them is because you can only get 250 & 400 watts, and they only work with magnetic ballast (NOT Digital)

They are closetest to the sun of any bulb in the mh hps family and they have UV :bigjoint:

It is the UV that affects the high

there are a few grows on this site using them check out "Welcome to the Jungle" in the grow journals.

Then Google Ceramic Metal Halide, you'll be amazed :bigjoint:
I have heard that marijuana produces trichomes for the whole reason of protecting themselves from uv rays, but if that were true wouldn't there be trichs during the vegatative stage as well?
 

d.c. beard

Well-Known Member
The Rev from Skunk magazine did a comparison with CMH bulbs and concluded that he was very let down with their performance (plus price!) and suggested NOT using them. He was very much for them prior to the experiment.

UV-B or blue light produces more potent pot from what I've read. This is used in conjunction with traditional flowering lamps to boost potency. Think 'tanning-bed lights'...

Spectrum prob does have an effect on the cannabinoid makeup, and would result in different 'highs' for plants grown under different spectrums of light I would imagine. But not drastically. And it prob won't affect the amount of trichomes overall, just chemical makeup.
 

riddleme

Well-Known Member
If you actually take the time to google it you will find a post that has run since 2007 on another forum, (over 200 pages) (did not want to cross post link here)

they have not only done the research as to which brand/model bulb is the best, but also several grows and experiments

they are growing buds that are bigger than a gallon milk jug or a roll of paper towels (you'll see the pix) :bigjoint:

Take the time to look, not trying to take you to the water to force you to drink, simply showing you where the water is so you can decide for yourself whether your thirsty or not :wall:

PS this is "the" bulb you want (don't have to buy from this link)
http://www.growlightexpress.com/ceramic-metal-halide-bulbs-9/mastercolor-ceramic-metal-halide-250-watt-horizontal-87.html
 

IndieGrower

Active Member
I didn't find any journals on ceramic metal halide from other sites when I googled welcome to the jungle ceramic metal halide grow. I only got something on RIU by the greencross. He self admittintly said that he wasn't an experienced grower and there was no comparison to other lights during the grow, from what I read.
 
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