light and airy buds??
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Al B. Fuct
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Phinx, it's rough when there's so many misconceptions and so many people hearing & repeating them. Just because 100 people have repeated the same myth doesn't make it true. The internet could be the greatest rumour mill ever invented.
Al B. Fuct
once had a dog named
no... not 'could be'... IS.
Dr.X
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Im using cfl's for vegging and flowering, i dont have any other choice lol, if molasses doesnt cure ''popcorn bud'' and fatten/make the buds more dense what does? This is my first grow lol (Big bud northern lights) does anyone know the characteristics of this strain, like does it produce big dense buds etc, cheers 
Al B. Fuct
once had a dog named
Oh, are HPS lights unavailable in your area?
High intensity light!
BB & NL are indica dominant hybrids. They will produce great honking thick, dense buds- with sufficient light intensity. However, they'll produce thin weedy popcorn just like any other strain when flowered with CFLs.
drgreenGMX
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the problem showed up in this thread, youve got somebody who it turns out has zero grows under his built presenting the idea that they were ok. On the other side you have a 1 man bud factory saying they are not, but other than a rep bar, or youve seen him post before how do you know whos correct?
no offense to dr x(im inexperienced aswell), but just saying thats how easy rumours can get spread.
no offense to dr x(im inexperienced aswell), but just saying thats how easy rumours can get spread.
Al B. Fuct
once had a dog named
WTF do you mean you can't afford to run an HPS? Watts out of the power socket is watts! Replace the 250W worth of fluoros with a 250W HPS and you solve your problem for zero change in power cost!ok thanks for the info
The answer to that query is implicit in the query!
cannabitch
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Hey man take a look at my pic. It was done with cfls. I think some strains may just be airy. I'm sure light does have alot to do with it but it's not impossible to have a dense cfl grow.
the molasses can be any brand..just make sure you get the blackstrap unsulphured. it's usually next to the pancake syrup at your local grocery store.
the molasses can be any brand..just make sure you get the blackstrap unsulphured. it's usually next to the pancake syrup at your local grocery store.
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Zhu
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I really like my cfls for veg like alots but for flowering I use 3 150w hps and 10-15 cfls (mostly use cfls for the sides) and it gives me a nice variety. fluffier easy to dry buds down low and the stuff for the 2 month cure in mason jars on the top. Eases the wait for the good stuff.
Al B. Fuct
once had a dog named
With all due respect... I'm quite sure you put a lot of work into that... but that's a small, thin bud.
If you would have used HPS, they would have looked like this...
...and you could get about 23 of these every 2 weeks if that was a 1000HPS.
And that's a very good place for molasses. You sure don't want any near your cannabis plants.
Vascular plants can't use complex carbohydrates as food, simple as that. All molasses will do in your grow is feed mould & fungi.
cannabitch
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With all due respect... I'm quite sure you put a lot of work into that... but that's a small, thin bud.
If you would have used HPS, they would have looked like this...
...and you could get about 23 of these every 2 weeks if that was a 1000HPS.
And that's a very good place for molasses. You sure don't want any near your cannabis plants.
Vascular plants can't use complex carbohydrates as food, simple as that. All molasses will do in your grow is feed mould & fungi.
your bud doesn't look any bigger than mine.
you should talk to more people who has had great results with molasses. i used it and i don't have mold and fungi. how many people have had problems with it?
Al -- Great looking bud
I used to use cfl's . A 150 and 6 42's thats 402 watts, my buds were light and airy. Now I got a 400hps and my buds are much bigger and fatter. Same amount of watts but much more light. This bud is only 24 days into flower, and is already biger than what I got with cfl's.
I used to use cfl's . A 150 and 6 42's thats 402 watts, my buds were light and airy. Now I got a 400hps and my buds are much bigger and fatter. Same amount of watts but much more light. This bud is only 24 days into flower, and is already biger than what I got with cfl's.
Al B. Fuct
once had a dog named
Could be the perspective of your lighter in the b/g that makes it look smaller than I'm thinking it is. The bucket that the budstalk is sitting on in my pic is your typical 9L bucket, about 300mm dia. The stalk is about 450 or 500mm long. Ones that size usually yield about 1-1.25 oz for me.
Do a parallel test, running several with and several without molasses in the same crop. If you're lucky, there'll be no difference, simply because vascular plants (not just cannabis) can't use complex carbohydrates as a nutrient and simply will ignore the stuff. The downside is the potential to feed pathogens.
Do what I did- head for the web, search for peer-reviewed data from the horticultural or botanical college of a large university that substantiates any claim that sugars are useful as a plant food. Ignore all data from growers and sellers of sugar sauces. You will find what I did, which is a whole not of nothing in support of use of sugars as a nutrient.
If you don't get mould & fungi, whatever you're using for pathogen control is working.
voltaire64
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I feed my outdoors a tablespoon per gallon every watering.
wyteberrywidow
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i wouldnt go against al.b words that guy is a ganja guru
Antman
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I don't know why your buds are "Airy" and not dense, but I don't think it's the light. Granted you will definately get bigger, thicker buds with the more light you use. But I've done some outdoor grows, and no one has a light stronger than the one up in the sky, and the buds on some of the plants just came out "Airy" like yours. They were GIGANTIC in size, but very lightweight. Others were heavier and more dense. Maybe it's the strain you grew. As for the molasses, I'm trying it for the first time now, so I'll have to get back to on that one. I don't see any negitive effects from it yet. Good Luck!
Al B. Fuct
once had a dog named
High air temps will give you stretchy, fluffy buds, too. I can certainly see a hot summer producing fluffy buds in an outdoor grow. You can control that in an indoor op.
Last time, folks- cannabis plants can NOT use sugars as a nutrient.
If you're going to put something on your plants, you should find good botanical science that supports the use of that material. 'Not hurting anything' is neither a good reason nor good science.