geekmike
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like I said, you can winterize it... basically making QWISO w/ it wither way. It would make the end product a bit nicer I would assume.
Let's Talk Terpenoids
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whyblameus
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I dont know. Im sure it would be good but I want the purest possible and I cant think of any better way about it then winterizing some beautiful bubble lol.
If it was anything short of amazing I would never do it again.
If it was anything short of amazing I would never do it again.
MichiganGrows
Active Member
I used to make BHO and I can definitely say that HEAT destroys Terpenoids. If done correctly Terps can remain in a somewhat stable and untouched form but more than likely the matter extracted will still contain solvent. I switched all extraction methods to solvent less. Ice and water is all. If you can do this correctly the terpeniods will remain unharmed. Most of my solvent less extracts stink like hell and IMO has to be the superior way to conserve terpeniods profiles in any form of extracts.
nugbuckets
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...so what would be the best way to retain terps using either iso, or grain in making tincture, or RSO?
Rising Moon
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My buddy makes this 20x Vacuum purged BHO that is alright...(but I dont like wax really...)
He claims it removes the non polar elements, and blah blah, but Im skeptical and think its mostly stoner science.
Anyways, his stuff is like viscus piss yellow stained glass, and the latest batch (SFV OG) tastes like lemons.
But the high is so un-natural feeling...
Id rather smoke 3 joints and be higher
He claims it removes the non polar elements, and blah blah, but Im skeptical and think its mostly stoner science.
Anyways, his stuff is like viscus piss yellow stained glass, and the latest batch (SFV OG) tastes like lemons.
But the high is so un-natural feeling...
Id rather smoke 3 joints and be higher
nugbuckets
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this nugget just dropped today
Halent Laboratories
CO2 Hash Oil
We finally have seen enough samples of CO2 solvent extracted oils (several dozen) to be able to characterize them to a reasonable extent.
Color: color ranges from light/pale yellow, to pinkish peach, to a lovely deep rich red-brown color.
Transparency: oils extracted CO2 are among the most transparent, ranging from the translucence of petroleum jelly to transparency of hard sugar candy. Microscopic exam shows these samples to be mostly devoid of solids and particulates.
Viscosity: thickness ranges from that of honey to as thick as 90 weight packing grease for bearings, or that of a very soft wax.
Composition: The entourage of minor cannabinoids is present and intact. Most of the associated terpenes (like Limonene, Pinene & Myrcene), are not present in the oil. For most concentrates we evaluate, the process of separating out the cannabinoids very commonly results in the loss of most terpenes, except for the higher molecular weight terpenes like Phytol. CO2 Hash Oils usually contain at least 60%-65% (by weight) cannabinoids.
Conclusions: Although the start-up costs to do CO2 solvent extractions is high, the quality of extracted product is also consistently of the highest quality. There are NO toxic residuals added to the oil. This is a very impressive, albeit expensive, method that shows great promise.
Halent Laboratories
CO2 Hash Oil
We finally have seen enough samples of CO2 solvent extracted oils (several dozen) to be able to characterize them to a reasonable extent.
Color: color ranges from light/pale yellow, to pinkish peach, to a lovely deep rich red-brown color.
Transparency: oils extracted CO2 are among the most transparent, ranging from the translucence of petroleum jelly to transparency of hard sugar candy. Microscopic exam shows these samples to be mostly devoid of solids and particulates.
Viscosity: thickness ranges from that of honey to as thick as 90 weight packing grease for bearings, or that of a very soft wax.
Composition: The entourage of minor cannabinoids is present and intact. Most of the associated terpenes (like Limonene, Pinene & Myrcene), are not present in the oil. For most concentrates we evaluate, the process of separating out the cannabinoids very commonly results in the loss of most terpenes, except for the higher molecular weight terpenes like Phytol. CO2 Hash Oils usually contain at least 60%-65% (by weight) cannabinoids.
Conclusions: Although the start-up costs to do CO2 solvent extractions is high, the quality of extracted product is also consistently of the highest quality. There are NO toxic residuals added to the oil. This is a very impressive, albeit expensive, method that shows great promise.
whyblameus
Active Member
"For most concentrates we evaluate, the process of separating out the cannabinoids very commonly results in the loss of most terpenes, except for the higher molecular weight terpenes like Phytol."
Confirmed what I had been thinking. Its not the solvent but the process.
Confirmed what I had been thinking. Its not the solvent but the process.
montanachadly
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Ive made all the other stuff but by following Matt Rizes Ice Wax method the smell and taste thats left behind is top shelf. My last batch of Space Bomb Wax was 100% full melt and smelled so cherry. I cant ever remember having any dry ice hash that was 100% full melt. Maybe its just not where i live. This is some Timewreck/Chernobyl Wax i made yesterday that will get microplaned later today. This should be pretty good. Ive never had BHO that tasted as good as the ice wax. I also havent ever tried any Shatter bros wax either. The talk of tinctures wouldnt the taste of the alcohol take away taste of terpens? Im gonna make some tincture with the vegtable glycerin i know it takes longer but i stay away from any form of alcohol. I was thinking of making the tincture with hash instead of trim also. Anyone know anything about any of this?
nugbuckets
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pretty basic read.....
http://berkeleypatientscare.com/2010/10/08/terpenes-terpenoids-and-cannabis/
http://berkeleypatientscare.com/2010/10/08/terpenes-terpenoids-and-cannabis/
