Lets talk AeroCloners

Just to bump this old thread that I just re-read, and also talk about my cloning experiences - I started off with a DIY aero cloner, worked fine until I started growing white widow max. That was the first time I didnt get roots in the aero; with the sativa strains I was growing before i generally got bumps in 10 days followed by awesome-sauce roots spot on day 14. With my first attempts with cloning WWM, I thought maybe the aerocloner was to blame, so I built a rockwool based clone-box out of a shipping crate, put in 2x18" t-5s, a heat-mat and thermostat controlled muffin fan - to mimic al-b-fucts setup (aside from the t-5s… which is of no importance). Come to find out, the problem was/is simply the strain. I think a lot of issues that have been posted on this thread related to difficulty getting roots, are for the most part is just that… the strain. Al is the man, however hand watering RW cubes twice a day is a huge pain in my ass, thus I'm going back to the aero cloner, that is why I'm here rereading this thread - one of the more current aerocloner threads. I plan on doing stinkbuds setup (again) but with a 15 off/on timer (because a mechanical timer is like 7 bucks, rather than $100 recycle timer… which would be a last resort)… I might even try 15 on 30 off after reading that schedule used by someone on an old overgrown thread. I'll post the results… but I might start a new thread rather than adding pages to this old guy.

YaK said:

what are your res temps?? if they're ridiculously high then you should cool it. I run my cloners at 70-74 degrees.

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i found out that the reason my res was getting so high was because of my pump heating up so much. i ran it on a cycle timer now. 1 min on 4 off. and it has cool the res down alot. mine is in about the same range 70-75 now. thanks for the reply

Love my 8 site Daisy Cloner

what solution do u use if u don mine me askn

get a cycle timer only 70 at ur local hydro stoe

'I plan on doing stinkbuds setup (again) but with a 15 off/on timer (because a mechanical timer is like 7 bucks, rather than $100 recycle time' to
get a cycle timer only 70 at ur local hydro stoe

You can build your own aero cloner out of a 5 gal bucket and a pump with a spray head. They are almost 100% at rooting clones without anything but RO or distilled water. Google "Lets build clone machine step by step". I have used these several times with 100% success. Aero cloners do not work well when the res temperatures are above 90F.

Very cool!
Sweet to have some ppls joining in !
Made my aero cloner tub 2 yrs ago. works great , many happy gurls later.
had some issues this winter!! loss a batch. have decided that:
(1 the 4 tube 10,000 lumens t5 lite is way too much!! (when I had a 1 bult 25 watt bulb, life was good!)
(2 temps are critical!! outside the tub & inside. ( I failed on outside issues!)
(3 as a step upwards to narvina........ I am adding some conical 115 degree mister nozzles to my DIY manifold.
to see if 20 micron droplets really do matter. will post results.
cool to see liked minded people!
Lets Rock,
Slag
btw: I USE A DIY 5" AREOPONIC TUBE &1KW LT. SETUP FOR BLOOMING

I have used an EZ Cloner 120, and more recently the new Classic 128, for my clones for many years. For many years, I had no problems- but most recently a series of power outages in my new area completely ruined an entire batch of 128 when I needed them most. Although it was rare in my old area, I will only fire up the machine again in mission critical times unless connected to a sump pump battery backup system because the power is sometimes sketchy here. I will be posting a how to tek about how to battery backup your aeroponic cloner to protect against power outages.

Here's the plans to the world famous StinkBud cloner

why does the roots grow into the black puck?
not much on stem below?
SLAG

Lower the sprayer heads down!
the spray needs to NOT hit right at the top crack/join of lid.
no gaskets needed!
Slag

LoganSmith said:

I wrote this long post and it got deleted, so here is another version of what is happening to me.

I killed 25 cuttings, my clone/aero/bubbler box that held 25 2" net pots keep on leaking so I remembered another member saying that he had tried everything and all of the cloners still would leak. He finally found a rough tough tot that didn't leak.

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Owellian said:

I have used an EZ Cloner 120, and more recently the new Classic 128, for my clones for many years. For many years, I had no problems- but most recently a series of power outages in my new area completely ruined an entire batch of 128 when I needed them most. Although it was rare in my old area, I will only fire up the machine again in mission critical times unless connected to a sump pump battery backup system because the power is sometimes sketchy here. I will be posting a how to tek about how to battery backup your aeroponic cloner to protect against power outages.

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I know how you feel. I just about killed all of my 120 clones in my ez cloner because I was running my pump 24/7 and my water temps were high enough to give my stems root rot. Now I'm using a digital cycle timer for 1 minute on and 4 minutes off while throwing frozen ice bottles inside it.

my experience with aerocloning----after 2 yrs. and trying every combination of variables -------I gave up----could never get the reliability I needed.

Big disappointment for me because I run medium less aero in 10' x 6" pvc tubes for veg and flower-----back to ole faithful for cloning.

A~~~

my temps in my veg room stay at 75..i use this..no ice,no timers,run it 24 hours a day..every time i get bearded clones...4 gals of r.o. water and 35ml of cal mag..works like a charm.simple...i also have the 64 site one..

Oh Yeah! have a dome!!
they need less stress & having NO ROOTS, the leaves cannot transpire. Quickly dry out.
I mist inside my dome in Am & only again in PM. (when I get home from work) a shot of rootx & superThrive & ph 'ed to 5.8 in my way. roots in 10 + days.
I had teh 15 timer & sprayers Areo Cloner, have switched to a 45 psi pump & true misting manifold. & BluePrit Cycling timer BCT-1. Love teh MIST! no mess.
TO PREVENT tub lid LEAKING from the sprayers... keep them as low in tub as possible. if the spray is not hitting right at the lids crack , life is DRY
Slag

luielugatz said:

i can try to help ya...water temp i would say 70-75 keeping the pump running 24/7 should take care of that....room temp i do mine in a closet so it stays warm i really dont worry about it....as for nutes i have done it in a week with no nutes....i have done it in a week with superthrive everyones diffrent....i use tape water phed to 5.0...misting is a must for me atleast i mist 3-6 times a day lightly not heavey....a dome i really dont think u need one at all thats what the misting is for in my guess....gl i hope i helped...

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BirdTooth said:

This design is great.
I love aerocloners in general, but I was under the impression that the majority of containers available leaked, though I guess I haven't tried for myself.
Is it the angle of your sprayers that prevent that here? You don't seem to have sealed it in any extra way.

I am looking for a way to build a fairly high capacity unit, and it is restrictive to think only in terms of Rubbermaid, so if you haven't had any problems with leaks that means great things.

Does anybody have an idea of a good container for an 80+ capacity unit?

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Also, LoudBlunts, where can I find more info about your DIY ebb and flow tray project? How do you deal with UV damage to the cheap plastic?

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I had teh 15 timer & sprayers Areo Cloner, have switched to a 45 psi pump & true misting manifold. & BluePrit Cycling timer BCT-1. Love teh MIST! no mess.
TO PREVENT tub lid LEAKING from the sprayers... keep them as low in tub as possible. if the spray is not hitting right at the lids crack , life is DRY
Slag

gvega187 said:

question,

1-dunno how aerocloners relate to ebb and flo BUT IM EXCITED!?!

I love aerocloning, but how in the hell would i clone into an ebb and flo tray? I feel the roots would b demolished as I transfered into pebbles and pots.

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Just be somewhat gentle ! I put em in NetPot & dump hydroton by teh 4" basketful, vibrate it AKA.. tap & shake to settle & in the Rails they go! had a few failure to THRIVE gurls,
Oh Well, u do a few extra each run.
Slag