Let's Grow Mushrooms - A Beginners Gigantic Bulk Attempt with PF Tek

HeatlessBBQ

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i love dankillerbs .

yo man, i dont care what anyone says. and you shouldnt either...
YOU have the knowledge of growing mushrooms in the most efficient way possible.
i have learned the most about cultivating mushrooms from this guy!^^^^
and once you put the pieces together on what advice he gives you, growing mushrooms is simple as hell!!!

im using the advice from him in this journal thread on my mushroom grow...
if interested, please check it out...

https://www.rollitup.org/hallucinatory-substances/386647-pf-tek-shotgun-terrarium-gt.html
 

aeviaanah

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I still wouldnt flip em. :) If they colonized on the bottom of the jars using a brown rice flour/verm/water miture, then you injected TOO MANY spores into the jar. When you innoculate them, you only need a few drops! Only takes two spores to make mycellium in a jar, and if you get a dozen jars from one syringe your doing just right. This would be of the half pint size jars, of course...... All of mine colonize from the top and they spider down to the bottom towards the end and connect and voila -- cake is done.

I dont know if your method is right, wrong, or neutral, I just dont see an actual advantage to it yet. Keep us posted for sure, you've got a decent control group goin on. =)
I only used 1cc of spore water per jar. I used 4 port lids with .25 cc per each hole. If you look at the lets grow mushrooms video, you will see his mycelium starts at the bottom as well. They say the bottom is the hardest part to inoculate, starting culture at the bottom takes care of this...ill let you know if the flipping helped.
 

dankillerbs

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Actually that's a good idea Kitty, let's all get some penis envy spores and see who can grow the biggest one!

Anyways, Aeviaanah... As Kitty said you shouldn't have to flip your jars... some people report it helping to finish colonize thier jars but if your jars are slow you need to figure out why that is... Your mix could be too wet, they may not be getting enough gas exchange(where are you keeping them?), or you may have just packed the jars too tight...Also, you need to just buy a syringe from a good vendor... Stop trying to make your syringes from a print or trying to make an LC, those are advanced procedures and should not be attempted by someone who has never even colonized a BRF cake.
 

aeviaanah

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Actually that's a good idea Kitty, let's all get some penis envy spores and see who can grow the biggest one!

Anyways, Aeviaanah... As Kitty said you shouldn't have to flip your jars... some people report it helping to finish colonize thier jars but if your jars are slow you need to figure out why that is... Your mix could be too wet, they may not be getting enough gas exchange(where are you keeping them?), or you may have just packed the jars too tight...Also, you need to just buy a syringe from a good vendor... Stop trying to make your syringes from a print or trying to make an LC, those are advanced procedures and should not be attempted by someone who has never even colonized a BRF cake.
I have plenty of prints to make my own syringes and it has proved to be a success. My lc was also successful, i dont see the problem. Theres not much too it man...just be sterile and dont get all bent out of shape if the jars contam.

The jars werent stalling i just thought id flip 3 of 12 to see if it makes a noticeable difference, probably not a good move but i did it anyway. I am at the end of week 2 and about 90 percent colonized on most jars, i think i am doing just fine.
 

jfa916

New Member
i have a question if you dont mind me adking is shrooms a type of mushroom or is that what you call mushrooms
also how much does a quarter go for i know someone selling them for $40 a quarter is that a good price?
 

HeatlessBBQ

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i have a question if you dont mind me adking is shrooms a type of mushroom or is that what you call mushrooms
also how much does a quarter go for i know someone selling them for $40 a quarter is that a good price?
"are you a cop" XD
just kidding my friend

40 a quarter is good price, shrooms is slang term for mushrooms
agreed, 40 bones for 7 grams is a damn good deal to me =]
 

HeatlessBBQ

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shit!!!
id bump that shit up to 1800 a pound or even 2Gs in my area.

but even if i cropped a pound of boomers, id be happy with a grand. =]
 

dankillerbs

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"I have plenty of prints to make my own syringes and it has proved to be a success. My lc was also successful, i dont see the problem. Theres not much too it man...just be sterile and dont get all bent out of shape if the jars contam." - Aeviaanah

I'm actually happier with a 99% success rate rather than just being ok with contamination. Not only is it dissapointing and a waste of time and money, but it puts future attempts at risk of failing also. Anyways, if everythings going fine then all power to you, but I'm just saying making syringes and LC's(that are contam free) are not for the average begginer and if you stuck with a pre made syringe you would have a better sucess rate... Anyways, have you even gotten to the point of fruiting anything you made from LC or print?
 

jfa916

New Member
thanks people i always taught shrooms was a strain im going to buy some and try it and maybe grow them if i like them
good luck on your shrooms kitty
 

researchkitty

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i just put 6 brf cakes into my fruiting chamber today, first grow for me. so far so good,hope they fruit well
As long as you dunked them for 24 hours then rolled with dry vermiculite and then have good conditions, you should be golden! Feel free to post a pic too, PF TEK posts arent considered hijacking unless they have popcorn in em :) ;) ;)
 

asdf1

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As long as you dunked them for 24 hours then rolled with dry vermiculite and then have good conditions, you should be golden! Feel free to post a pic too, PF TEK posts arent considered hijacking unless they have popcorn in em :) ;) ;)
any chance there are any pics of your final harvest... and what was the final weight on your whole grow...

I'm possibly mixing up some substrate tonight a cooking on wednesday. but im going out of town the 17th through 19th... theres no reason i would need to be around during those dates given that i innoculate this wednesday, right? I just thought i'd ask a more experienced person so i could be sure.

What is the best environment for the jars to colonize. About a month ago i set up my shotgun terrarium to try misting and fanning and make sure it stays humid and it did so i stopped misting and let the perlite mostly dry out. If i put a heating pad in there and turned it on low then put my jars in would that be a good environment for them. Or would the surface of the heating pad be too hot for the jars. What is the max temp jars can handle and if the heating pad was too hot would a folded up towel work to keep the jars from getting too hot?

I hate to overload you with questions but it helps to get an experienced opinion.
 

Senor SmokeAlot

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As long as you dunked them for 24 hours then rolled with dry vermiculite and then have good conditions, you should be golden! Feel free to post a pic too, PF TEK posts arent considered hijacking unless they have popcorn in em :) ;) ;)

yea i dunked them in distilled water, i had some left over, and submerged for a lil over 24hrs,then rinsed and rolled in dry verm. put them in the chamber and now they're in my closet, which is a lil colder then i had anticipated, so i got a lil space/room heater thing in there.

ques. though....do i have to re-hydrate my perlite often, my rh is about 70-80, i need 95+ right? do i remove the cakes,with a latex glove, pour some water and then cake back in? its all been smooth sailding so far,i'd be really upset if i lost some cakes during fruiting.

p.s. damn that perlite is messy right out the bag. i was gonna rinse the dry perlite in the shower but it made a mess,haha,so i sent in my back yard to do it,now theres a bunch of lil white dots on the lawn.hehe
 

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researchkitty

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any chance there are any pics of your final harvest... and what was the final weight on your whole grow...

I'm possibly mixing up some substrate tonight a cooking on wednesday. but im going out of town the 17th through 19th... theres no reason i would need to be around during those dates given that i innoculate this wednesday, right? I just thought i'd ask a more experienced person so i could be sure.

What is the best environment for the jars to colonize. About a month ago i set up my shotgun terrarium to try misting and fanning and make sure it stays humid and it did so i stopped misting and let the perlite mostly dry out. If i put a heating pad in there and turned it on low then put my jars in would that be a good environment for them. Or would the surface of the heating pad be too hot for the jars. What is the max temp jars can handle and if the heating pad was too hot would a folded up towel work to keep the jars from getting too hot?

I hate to overload you with questions but it helps to get an experienced opinion.
Since I had so many bags I tossed from molding from not being dried properly (pre-dehydrator) and bags were awarded to customers in between too, I'm not really sure what the final weight was. Keep in mind too, only 2 flushes, and then cakes went in the trash for moving reasons.

Dont cook the substrate until the day before you innoculate. All that will happen is the moisture will slowly escape and it'll be harder to colonize without going bone dry.

Heating the jars to colonize isnt necessary. Just leave them at room temperature and wrap a bath towel around the jars to insulate them a little bit. More heat will cook em and kill your jars.

Check out "Let's Grow Mushrooms" on youtube.com and that'll give you a step by step tutorial.

yea i dunked them in distilled water, i had some left over, and submerged for a lil over 24hrs,then rinsed and rolled in dry verm. put them in the chamber and now they're in my closet, which is a lil colder then i had anticipated, so i got a lil space/room heater thing in there.

ques. though....do i have to re-hydrate my perlite often, my rh is about 70-80, i need 95+ right? do i remove the cakes,with a latex glove, pour some water and then cake back in? its all been smooth sailding so far,i'd be really upset if i lost some cakes during fruiting.

p.s. damn that perlite is messy right out the bag. i was gonna rinse the dry perlite in the shower but it made a mess,haha,so i sent in my back yard to do it,now theres a bunch of lil white dots on the lawn.hehe
Perlite sucks to rinse, I've yet to find a good solution for that but I will, dammit! :)

I was re-hydrating the perlite every 7 days AND whenever the cakes got swapped out for a flush. For re-hydrating I just rinsed the perlite out and put it back in the drawers, and then the cakes back on it again. Only takes a few minutes to do.
 
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