Let's Grow Mushrooms - A Beginners Gigantic Bulk Attempt with PF Tek

DarthD3vl

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When people ask about tubs they mean monotubs, not your fruiting chambers(which are awsome by the way) its a bulk tek were you spawn from grains to poo or coir in a tub the hole tub then colonized making sorta one giant cake that fills the bottom of the tub. just trying to clear up any confusion.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to DarthD3vl again.

I tried! :-)
Lol thanks
 

researchkitty

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Aaah, so a mono tub means a different method of growing. I thought it meant just using the tub. I guess these would be properly termed as "Shotgun Terraniums" as the guy on the "Let's Grow Mushrooms!" youtube video named it....... My bad! :)
 

dankillerbs

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That is a shotgun chamber, you are correct... monotubs use a bulk substrate... bird seed or grains are innoculated and colonized, then spawned to a larger pasturized medium(horse poo, coir, ect.)... then once the grains have colonized the whole substrate it is then exposed to fruiting conditions... and there you have it, a GIANT cake. Monotubs are just rubermaid tubs with 4-6 2inch holes at substrate level and near the top of the tub... they get stuffed with pollyfil and it relies on the moisture from the substrate to keep a high RH%. They are actually not that difficult and requires much less, but bigger(qt) jars. Just watch the video on grain preperation on the "lets grow mushrooms" site and follow a monotub tek on the shroomery if your interested. Getting the grains to initially colonize is the hardest part. Either way, DAMN! Very nice setup:)

P.S. Will you marry me?
 

researchkitty

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No marriage sir! I just turned 21 for goodness sake lol




Out of 91 cakes in the drawers, about 6 or 8 of the cakes show pinky nail sized pins of various shrooms. Not enough to warrant pictures, but probably tomorrow when more of the cakes start pinning. Tomorrow I'll be doing another 20 or 30 dunks of fresh cakes ready to be put in the cold water for 24 hours then birthed. A lot of those jars have shrooms inside them already too.

Thanks everyone!
 

dankillerbs

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Haha, you don't accept marrige proposals online? What could possibly go wrong with that? Hah, seriously... Sweet setup, look into grains and monotubs if you get sick of pc'ing jars! Keep up the good work!
 

Sgt. Floyd

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Every time you post a new pic the only opinion I can come up with is "Damn!" Keep it up. Can't wait to see the yield.
 

CaNNaBiZ CaNucK

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My, My.. How busy you have been, Kitty! This is an ambitious project that seems to be paying off! Great Job! I love the innovations! rrep!!
 

researchkitty

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Isnt it amazing what another 2 and a half days will do to tubs?

Here's the best 3 tubs: Most have less pinning, some have little, its certainly organized by drawer! I'll review the strains later in the post.



Top left drawer #1 - Strain: Cambodian - the other two drawers of Cambodians are still small or waiting to pin.



Left drawer #2 - Strain: Z - Two drawers full of Z, this is the upper one.



Left drawer #3 - Strain: Z - Two drawers full of Z, this is the lower one.



Harvested these two, both from Strain Z. The left is an ugly one but the right works! :)



List of strains and which drawers they are in.....
 

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glShemp

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Very nice Ms. Kitty! Here's a couple of my jars of Psilocybe Cubensis B+ I knocked up on October 4th that are looking about 90% this morning the 23rd. I scheduled some days off at work around Thanksgiving to commune with this gift of nature.
 

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researchkitty

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Very nice Ms. Kitty! Here's a couple of my jars of Psilocybe Cubensis B+ I knocked up on October 4th that are looking about 90% this morning the 23rd. I scheduled some days off at work around Thanksgiving to commune with this gift of nature.
Lookin great! You've got the correct size jars, much wider than mine which will make them not fall over so much. :-) By Thanksgiving you should have 4-6g of dried product at the least ready to rock..........
 

researchkitty

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The last pictures were 25 hours ago. That was then, these are now........... But before we get started, lets get our DRYING AREA setup!

(This will be a long post with lots of pictures, 56.6k rednecks, sorry!)


This is Silica Dessicant/Dessicite. Its the shit you find in shoe boxes to keep humidity and moisture from ruining them. These are old packets, so...




In the oven they go! They will sit here for 12 hours cooking at.....




245(f). This bakes off the moisture that the dessicant has already absorbed and makes them good as new. Why did I choose 12 hours at 245(f)? That's what it says to do on the packages writing. :)




Lets start with the right side of the drawers, one nice shroom ready to harvest. The others on the same cake will wait another day or two. The other cakes are still slowly getting there.




Yep, its big.




All 9 of these cakes havent pinned yet. My guess is the cakes are still finishing up inside and we'll see pins in the next few days.




This drawer too!




One ready to harvest, lots of pins. Blurry, sorry.




Next drawer up, and lots of pins. These are strain Z.




Still strain Z.




Hey, look, no blur! Cambodian strain. Biggest mushroom so far on the back row. Harvested that and a few others here.




This cake is now upside down. These were growing from under it. As Darth suggested, we have no clue what way is really up. This one wanted this way so here it is!




That big one again




Nice little trio




Fuzzy white on the shroom. That bad or OK? I'll throw it away regardless because its fugly.




Next drawer up! Lots of pins especially the back left cake.




Todays harvest.




Todays harvest.




The biggest two from todays harvest.




This is everything the cakes have produced that were harvestable so far.



That's all for now. Another update tomorrow probably as I'm sure there'll be a lot to pick. :-) We'll go over what we do with the dessicant then too, for tonight they just sit on a screen with a cover so they air dry a little bit. Then we'll show how to get em nice and super dry and ready for packaging.
 

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DarthD3vl

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the fuzzy white stuff is from slightly to much water, it allows the mycelium to grow up the base of the shroom wont hurt you but I always peel it off cause there can be verm in the fuzzy that can upset your stomach its not dangerous and will normally be some around the base of your shrooms when your misting to often or directly on to the mushroom, at least I think that what causes it.

by the way there looking very good.
 

aeviaanah

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I am getting to start my first shroom grow attempt! After inoculating mycellium i noticed you rinsed them in water. This must be to hydrate cakes for shrooms to drink right? Is this a must?
 

researchkitty

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the fuzzy white stuff is from slightly to much water, it allows the mycelium to grow up the base of the shroom wont hurt you but I always peel it off cause there can be verm in the fuzzy that can upset your stomach its not dangerous and will normally be some around the base of your shrooms when your misting to often or directly on to the mushroom, at least I think that what causes it.

by the way there looking very good.
Thanks man! I'm glad your here. <G> I'll start to mist the tubs themselves but not the actual cakes if they are pinning too much. They are still on manual fanning and misting modes just to play it safe and attentive......
 

researchkitty

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I am getting to start my first shroom grow attempt! After inoculating mycellium i noticed you rinsed them in water. This must be to hydrate cakes for shrooms to drink right? Is this a must?
The cakes have water, brown rice and vermiculite in them already. But, since they are growing and exchanging gases for a few weeks to a month the water levels are lower. Mushrooms are 90% water and 10% mushrooms by way of drying them and eating them. The extra water the cakes hold from dunking them in water for 24 hours THEN rolling/fruiting them in the drawers means a substantial free yield increase. After the cakes dry out, I'll rinse them again, dunk, roll, fruit probably about 4 to 7 times in total. Each cakes weight is probably double when they are taken out of the water as well. No water, no growth. No brown rice, no growth We're just letting them use as much of the rice as they can without having to start over and over again.

GL!
 

aeviaanah

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The cakes have water, brown rice and vermiculite in them already. But, since they are growing and exchanging gases for a few weeks to a month the water levels are lower. Mushrooms are 90% water and 10% mushrooms by way of drying them and eating them. The extra water the cakes hold from dunking them in water for 24 hours THEN rolling/fruiting them in the drawers means a substantial free yield increase. After the cakes dry out, I'll rinse them again, dunk, roll, fruit probably about 4 to 7 times in total. Each cakes weight is probably double when they are taken out of the water as well. No water, no growth. No brown rice, no growth We're just letting them use as much of the rice as they can without having to start over and over again.

GL!
I will be starting using popcorn. Should i dunk in water as well after inoc? Do you continue to spray with water while pins show and develop?

It seems submerging mycellium under water for 24 hours would do harm. do lots of growers do this method? what would be done if i chose not to soak for 24 hours?
 
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